Vegas 6.0c + Boris Red at DVinfo.net

Jeff Harper · November 30th, 2005, 12:36 PM

I am considering Boris Red 3 as my first plug in purchase for Vegas. I wish to add compositing and 3d functionality to my work with still motion projects, video montages, etc...if you have used Boris Red I'd like to hear about it....

Jeff Harper

Edward Troxel · November 30th, 2005, 01:07 PM

I have it but can't say I've really "used" it. From what I have seen, it is very powerful but has a huge learning curve. The training DVD from Class On Demand helped me with the beginning workflow issues.

Note that when used with Vegas there are some limitations. For example, if you use it directly on the timeline, the Ram setting should be on zero and only the first frame will be passed to RED. Therefore, you should also experiment with using it in stand-alone mode as well. Definitely worth looking at, though.

Jeff Harper · November 30th, 2005, 03:28 PM

Edward,

I was concerned about the very issue you mentioned, the learning curve.

I want to compose scenes, for example, where a video is playing within a still shot, say in a picture frame, or on a billboard. Are there programs you are aware of that are less difficult to exploit that can help compose these kinds of still motion and video? Can I do the previous example in Vegas itself?

Edward Troxel · November 30th, 2005, 04:05 PM

Yes, you can do the above using just Vegas. Use Pan/Crop and/or Track Motion to resize and position the video to be displayed within the frame or billboard. Naturally it is best if the frame or billboard is stationary.

Sean Seah · November 30th, 2005, 09:13 PM

Yeah..there is even a tutorial with the veg file on VASST.

Jeff Harper · November 30th, 2005, 09:28 PM

Thanks guys...I'm on it!

Peter Jefferson · November 30th, 2005, 11:55 PM

i find after effects works quite well (and is considerably cheaper) as does Combustion (u wont fnd a better keyer... IMO)
On top of that, combustion allows for the use of particle illusion emitters

Sean Seah · December 1st, 2005, 11:40 PM

the effects r rendered outside of vegas rite? What format is recommend for importing to Vegas?

Edward Troxel · December 2nd, 2005, 08:33 AM

Depends on some factors but typically uncompressed AVI is used.

November 30th, 2005, 12:36 PM	#1
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Vegas 6.0c + Boris Red I am considering Boris Red 3 as my first plug in purchase for Vegas. I wish to add compositing and 3d functionality to my work with still motion projects, video montages, etc...if you have used Boris Red I'd like to hear about it.... Jeff Harper

November 30th, 2005, 01:07 PM	#2
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I have it but can't say I've really "used" it. From what I have seen, it is very powerful but has a huge learning curve. The training DVD from Class On Demand helped me with the beginning workflow issues. Note that when used with Vegas there are some limitations. For example, if you use it directly on the timeline, the Ram setting should be on zero and only the first frame will be passed to RED. Therefore, you should also experiment with using it in stand-alone mode as well. Definitely worth looking at, though. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 30th, 2005, 04:05 PM	#4
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yes, you can do the above using just Vegas. Use Pan/Crop and/or Track Motion to resize and position the video to be displayed within the frame or billboard. Naturally it is best if the frame or billboard is stationary. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

December 2nd, 2005, 08:33 AM	#9
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Depends on some factors but typically uncompressed AVI is used. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 30th, 2005, 03:28 PM	#3
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Edward, I was concerned about the very issue you mentioned, the learning curve. I want to compose scenes, for example, where a video is playing within a still shot, say in a picture frame, or on a billboard. Are there programs you are aware of that are less difficult to exploit that can help compose these kinds of still motion and video? Can I do the previous example in Vegas itself?

November 30th, 2005, 09:13 PM	#5
Sean Seah Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,498	Yeah..there is even a tutorial with the veg file on VASST.

November 30th, 2005, 09:28 PM	#6
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Thanks guys...I'm on it!

November 30th, 2005, 11:55 PM	#7
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	i find after effects works quite well (and is considerably cheaper) as does Combustion (u wont fnd a better keyer... IMO) On top of that, combustion allows for the use of particle illusion emitters

December 1st, 2005, 11:40 PM	#8
Sean Seah Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,498	the effects r rendered outside of vegas rite? What format is recommend for importing to Vegas?