Vegas Video discussions from 2003

Glen Elliott · July 1st, 2003, 03:34 PM

Yeah I heard Spot mention that in the Class On Demand for Vegas DVDs. Why would anyone run two instances of Vegas simultaneously? Wouldn't that eat ram!

Edward Troxel · July 1st, 2003, 08:25 PM

Multiple reasons:

1. Copy things from one project to another
2. Render one project while working on another
3. Render multiple projects at once
etc...

Glen Elliott · July 1st, 2003, 08:48 PM

This is going to sound like a really big newbie question but what are "VEG" files in Vegas. Are they project files?...What, exactly, do they contain?! I saw that there are downloadable VEG files for Vegas. How would one use one?!

Don Bloom · July 1st, 2003, 09:23 PM

They are project files that contain all the info needed to make them work in a project or edit. Motion, color changes, crop/pan.track motion;whatever is needed.
You can also go to sundancemediagroup.com-register and download all kinds of veggies. I have about 30 or so just sitting in a folder waiting to go to work for me. Many of them are titling effects. Of course you put in your own titles maybe play around with the timing and motion etc but it's a lot faster than me sitting for hours trying to figure it out.
They're tools to be used!
Hope this helps,
Don

Edward Troxel · July 2nd, 2003, 08:50 AM

VEG files are simply project files. However, techniques can be shared using VEG files. Use generated media to create the effect and anyone can see how those effects are done. After loading the VEG file, you can add your own media as TAKES over the generated media.

Peter Jefferson · July 3rd, 2003, 09:51 AM

and if you have a cpu with hyperthreading, the main concept codec runs about 20% faster....

for some reason, Vegas runs better wth a HyperT CPU than with a dual CPU...

at the mo, one of my systems, is runnign a stock 2.4gh P4 and i can run 2 sets of V4 and it playes perfectly...

so u dont need 2 cpus to run 2 V4's at teh same time... u can open more... but dont crap out the ASIO drivers if ur using an ASIO comaptible soundcard... it doesnt like it...
You can only run one instance using the ASIO drivers, so make sure yoru second project is runninig standard Soundcard drivers or windows drivers...

Edward Troxel · July 3rd, 2003, 10:58 AM

"so u dont need 2 cpus to run 2 V4's at teh same time"

Not what I said. You can run 2 (or more) instances on ANY computer. But, the response time WILL be better with 2 CPUs. (basically, the background instance will get more CPU time)

Glen Elliott · July 3rd, 2003, 12:01 PM

Speaking of AISO drivers...I saw that setting in one of Vegas's preferences. I turned it on and I couldn't drop any clips onto the timeline- got an error message "Cannot play clip, incompatable audio type" or something along those lines. I'm running a sound blaster audigy, btw.

What is AISO and what does it do?

Mike Moncrief · July 4th, 2003, 08:24 AM

Hello,

i am trying to get an external monitor to work with Vegas 4.0.. I have a panasonic ag-dv2000 deck i am using.. i have clicked on the little external monitor symbol which is above the vegas video preview window.. My deck is set to DV and Passive on the edit mode.. i am able to capture, and i can see the footage when i capture on the external monitor, but i cannot see the video on the external monitor when playing from the timeline ??

Under video device, i have it set to OHCI IEEE 1394..

What am i missing here ??

thanks,

mike

Edward Troxel · July 4th, 2003, 10:03 AM

Settings SOUND right. Mine are set the same and mine does work through the AG-DV2000. How about PTT. Does that work? When External Monitor is on, what shows on the computer preview screen?

Peter Moore · July 4th, 2003, 10:21 AM

I am using vegas to rotate a picture slightly where the camera was a little crooked.. The rotation is slight enough for the resulting emptiness to still be outside the action safe area (even moreso cause I'm doing a crop to 16x9).

Anyway, with all the settings at Best, I notice some odd distortion - about halfway through the picture vertically there's two small horizontal lines going across the whole picture that are slightly discolored from the rest of the picture. It's quite noticable.

Does anyone know what might be causing this or how to fix it? I could post a sample if necessary but I think that describes the problem pretty much. A little gaussian blur works, but of course that, well, blurs it. :) Is this just a standard thing with image rotation that I have to live with?

Tor Salomonsen · July 4th, 2003, 10:42 AM

Is this distortion on preview - or render. If on render, have you selected Reduce interlace flicker and Force resample? (Both are found under Properties, when you rightclick on the event.)

Mike Moncrief · July 4th, 2003, 12:10 PM

Hello,

When the external monitor is selected.. It says external monitor in the little Vegas video window.. I just do not see any video pass through to the NTSC monitor (from timeline palyaback)

Mike

Peter Moore · July 4th, 2003, 12:12 PM

It's in render and preview.

I did not select reduce interlace flicker because I actually don't want to deinterlace the footage - or do I misunderstand that function?

Also I have smart resample selected. What will force resample do?

Thanks a lot.

Mike Moncrief · July 4th, 2003, 01:35 PM

Hello

a bit of an update, i tried the PTT function as Ed suggested, and i got weird results.. it appears to lay video to tape, but when i look at the video it is broken in big blocks and the sound is distorted.. i tried in both machine control and manual.. same result..

Not sure what the deal is here.. am i missing some other setting on the deck ??

mike

July 1st, 2003, 08:48 PM	#498
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Vegas VEG files? This is going to sound like a really big newbie question but what are "VEG" files in Vegas. Are they project files?...What, exactly, do they contain?! I saw that there are downloadable VEG files for Vegas. How would one use one?!

July 4th, 2003, 08:24 AM	#504
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Vegas- External monitor.. Hello, i am trying to get an external monitor to work with Vegas 4.0.. I have a panasonic ag-dv2000 deck i am using.. i have clicked on the little external monitor symbol which is above the vegas video preview window.. My deck is set to DV and Passive on the edit mode.. i am able to capture, and i can see the footage when i capture on the external monitor, but i cannot see the video on the external monitor when playing from the timeline ?? Under video device, i have it set to OHCI IEEE 1394.. What am i missing here ?? thanks, mike __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

July 4th, 2003, 10:21 AM	#506
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	Vegas - Distortion when rotating the picture I am using vegas to rotate a picture slightly where the camera was a little crooked.. The rotation is slight enough for the resulting emptiness to still be outside the action safe area (even moreso cause I'm doing a crop to 16x9). Anyway, with all the settings at Best, I notice some odd distortion - about halfway through the picture vertically there's two small horizontal lines going across the whole picture that are slightly discolored from the rest of the picture. It's quite noticable. Does anyone know what might be causing this or how to fix it? I could post a sample if necessary but I think that describes the problem pretty much. A little gaussian blur works, but of course that, well, blurs it. :) Is this just a standard thing with image rotation that I have to live with?

July 4th, 2003, 12:10 PM	#508
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Hello, When the external monitor is selected.. It says external monitor in the little Vegas video window.. I just do not see any video pass through to the NTSC monitor (from timeline palyaback) Mike __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

July 4th, 2003, 01:35 PM	#510
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Hello a bit of an update, i tried the PTT function as Ed suggested, and i got weird results.. it appears to lay video to tape, but when i look at the video it is broken in big blocks and the sound is distorted.. i tried in both machine control and manual.. same result.. Not sure what the deal is here.. am i missing some other setting on the deck ?? mike __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

July 1st, 2003, 03:34 PM	#496
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Yeah I heard Spot mention that in the Class On Demand for Vegas DVDs. Why would anyone run two instances of Vegas simultaneously? Wouldn't that eat ram!

July 1st, 2003, 08:25 PM	#497
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Multiple reasons: 1. Copy things from one project to another 2. Render one project while working on another 3. Render multiple projects at once etc...

July 1st, 2003, 09:23 PM	#499
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	They are project files that contain all the info needed to make them work in a project or edit. Motion, color changes, crop/pan.track motion;whatever is needed. You can also go to sundancemediagroup.com-register and download all kinds of veggies. I have about 30 or so just sitting in a folder waiting to go to work for me. Many of them are titling effects. Of course you put in your own titles maybe play around with the timing and motion etc but it's a lot faster than me sitting for hours trying to figure it out. They're tools to be used! Hope this helps, Don

July 2nd, 2003, 08:50 AM	#500
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	VEG files are simply project files. However, techniques can be shared using VEG files. Use generated media to create the effect and anyone can see how those effects are done. After loading the VEG file, you can add your own media as TAKES over the generated media.

July 3rd, 2003, 09:51 AM	#501
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	and if you have a cpu with hyperthreading, the main concept codec runs about 20% faster.... for some reason, Vegas runs better wth a HyperT CPU than with a dual CPU... at the mo, one of my systems, is runnign a stock 2.4gh P4 and i can run 2 sets of V4 and it playes perfectly... so u dont need 2 cpus to run 2 V4's at teh same time... u can open more... but dont crap out the ASIO drivers if ur using an ASIO comaptible soundcard... it doesnt like it... You can only run one instance using the ASIO drivers, so make sure yoru second project is runninig standard Soundcard drivers or windows drivers...

July 3rd, 2003, 10:58 AM	#502
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	"so u dont need 2 cpus to run 2 V4's at teh same time" Not what I said. You can run 2 (or more) instances on ANY computer. But, the response time WILL be better with 2 CPUs. (basically, the background instance will get more CPU time)

July 3rd, 2003, 12:01 PM	#503
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Speaking of AISO drivers...I saw that setting in one of Vegas's preferences. I turned it on and I couldn't drop any clips onto the timeline- got an error message "Cannot play clip, incompatable audio type" or something along those lines. I'm running a sound blaster audigy, btw. What is AISO and what does it do?

July 4th, 2003, 10:03 AM	#505
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Settings SOUND right. Mine are set the same and mine does work through the AG-DV2000. How about PTT. Does that work? When External Monitor is on, what shows on the computer preview screen?

July 4th, 2003, 10:42 AM	#507
Tor Salomonsen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 265	Is this distortion on preview - or render. If on render, have you selected Reduce interlace flicker and Force resample? (Both are found under Properties, when you rightclick on the event.)

July 4th, 2003, 12:12 PM	#509
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	It's in render and preview. I did not select reduce interlace flicker because I actually don't want to deinterlace the footage - or do I misunderstand that function? Also I have smart resample selected. What will force resample do? Thanks a lot.