Vegas Video discussions from 2003

Darrell Sullivan · August 4th, 2003, 05:36 AM

I purchased Excalibur yesterday and I was playing around with it last night and the MultiCam option is really great.

I do have one question though, all of my camera changes seem to be cuts regardless of what I do.

I tried checking the option that makes "disolve" the default transition. I tried specifying the D and I tried specifying the D with a time factor.

I setup two cameras and named the track 1 and 2. I put markers where I wanted the cuts and named them in a variety of different ways to test things.

With "Disolve" as the default transition
1
2

With "Cut" as the default and "Disolve" as default another time:
1D
2D

With "Cut" as the default and "Disolve" as default another time:
1D00:16
2D00:16

With "Cut" as the default and "Disolve" as default another time:
1D16
2D16

All of these resulted in cuts rather than disolves. Did I miss some setting in Vegas itself or am I totally of in my naming? It is cutting in the right places, it is just not dissolving.

Thanks,
Darrell

Edward Troxel · August 4th, 2003, 07:13 AM

Do you have the Automatic Crossfades turned on?

Darrell Sullivan · August 4th, 2003, 08:06 AM

Edward,

Thanks for the reply. I can't remember off hand. I will take a look at that this evening and make sure they are on.

Thanks,
Darrell

Edward Troxel · August 4th, 2003, 10:49 AM

Yes, this is necessary because the "dissolves" are created by extending the clip lengths. I just tested it and the dissolves do NOT happen if auto crossfades is turned off. So, just leave that option turned on and all will be fine. (I NEVER turn it off anyway. If I want cuts, I just don't overlap clips.)

Dan Measel · August 4th, 2003, 08:41 PM

Making one myself would be more than I can handle. That artbeats site is perfect! Thanks.

Glen Elliott · August 5th, 2003, 10:28 AM

I took some time the other day to explor all the tabs in the main concept encoder. Little did I realize the amount of tweaks available. Do most of you keep these at default and only tweak CBR/VBR and bitrate #'s? From the looks of it, it may be the only safe way for me to do any tweaking- the other settings seem above my scope and understanding of mpg encoding.
I know that MPG2 destination file has to be upper-fields first but I noticed the setting was at lower-fields first by default. Can I safely assume that is designating the source material and should not be changed?
Also I noticed there was a video quality slider- what does this do exactly?

Edward Troxel · August 5th, 2003, 10:59 AM

I leave most things alone except for bitrate. I make sure the quality slider is at 31 (max) and, sometimes, change the DC Coefficient to 10bit.

MPEG2 for DVD should be LOWER field first, just like DV.

Darrell Sullivan · August 5th, 2003, 11:19 AM

Thanks Edward, that did the trick.

Glen Elliott · August 5th, 2003, 12:17 PM

Regarding the field issue I've heard the exact opposite. I asked around when I was having problems with my first DVD and the consensus was that DV is lower first but MPG2 DVD is upper first. However I'll follow your advice and keep it on lower.
I bet you knew this was comming....what is DC coefficient?

Edward Troxel · August 5th, 2003, 12:42 PM

If you started with CCE, for some reason you have to pick UPPER first for it to be right. Most others use LOWER first (which is correct). Main Concept, TMPGenc, Ligos, ... all use lower first.

Glen Elliott · August 5th, 2003, 12:59 PM

CCE?

Edward Troxel · August 5th, 2003, 01:20 PM

Cinema Craft Encoder

Glen Elliott · August 5th, 2003, 08:12 PM

Loaded up Vegas tonight and noticed a new button on my master bus control. Wasn't there before- at least not that I noticed. It seems to control where my sound come out of (center/left/right). Btw, I'm using a set a Klipsch Promedia 5.1s and don't have the rears connected right now (so that could explain why they only have configurations available for the front 3 speakers.)

The odd thing is- why and where did this come from?! How do I disable it?!

See picture attached:
http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/Laze...20question.jpg

Alex Knappenberger · August 5th, 2003, 08:14 PM

It is standard. I don't have a 5.1 setup and it's there on my Vegas... I think it's used to select what to monitor....heh.

Glen Elliott · August 5th, 2003, 08:17 PM

Maybe I'm loosing my mind then because I saw it and swore it was NEW. Man I really have to get away from this computer sometimes!

August 4th, 2003, 05:36 AM	#691
Darrell Sullivan Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 42	Excalibur MultiCam help I purchased Excalibur yesterday and I was playing around with it last night and the MultiCam option is really great. I do have one question though, all of my camera changes seem to be cuts regardless of what I do. I tried checking the option that makes "disolve" the default transition. I tried specifying the D and I tried specifying the D with a time factor. I setup two cameras and named the track 1 and 2. I put markers where I wanted the cuts and named them in a variety of different ways to test things. With "Disolve" as the default transition 1 2 With "Cut" as the default and "Disolve" as default another time: 1D 2D With "Cut" as the default and "Disolve" as default another time: 1D00:16 2D00:16 With "Cut" as the default and "Disolve" as default another time: 1D16 2D16 All of these resulted in cuts rather than disolves. Did I miss some setting in Vegas itself or am I totally of in my naming? It is cutting in the right places, it is just not dissolving. Thanks, Darrell

August 5th, 2003, 10:28 AM	#696
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Settings in Vegas's Main Concept Encoder for MPG2 export.... I took some time the other day to explor all the tabs in the main concept encoder. Little did I realize the amount of tweaks available. Do most of you keep these at default and only tweak CBR/VBR and bitrate #'s? From the looks of it, it may be the only safe way for me to do any tweaking- the other settings seem above my scope and understanding of mpg encoding. I know that MPG2 destination file has to be upper-fields first but I noticed the setting was at lower-fields first by default. Can I safely assume that is designating the source material and should not be changed? Also I noticed there was a video quality slider- what does this do exactly?

August 5th, 2003, 08:12 PM	#703
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Where did this button come from?! pics inside Loaded up Vegas tonight and noticed a new button on my master bus control. Wasn't there before- at least not that I noticed. It seems to control where my sound come out of (center/left/right). Btw, I'm using a set a Klipsch Promedia 5.1s and don't have the rears connected right now (so that could explain why they only have configurations available for the front 3 speakers.) The odd thing is- why and where did this come from?! How do I disable it?! See picture attached: http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/Laze...20question.jpg

August 4th, 2003, 07:13 AM	#692
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Do you have the Automatic Crossfades turned on?

August 4th, 2003, 08:06 AM	#693
Darrell Sullivan Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 42	Edward, Thanks for the reply. I can't remember off hand. I will take a look at that this evening and make sure they are on. Thanks, Darrell

August 4th, 2003, 10:49 AM	#694
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yes, this is necessary because the "dissolves" are created by extending the clip lengths. I just tested it and the dissolves do NOT happen if auto crossfades is turned off. So, just leave that option turned on and all will be fine. (I NEVER turn it off anyway. If I want cuts, I just don't overlap clips.)

August 4th, 2003, 08:41 PM	#695
Dan Measel Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 196	Making one myself would be more than I can handle. That artbeats site is perfect! Thanks.

August 5th, 2003, 10:59 AM	#697
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I leave most things alone except for bitrate. I make sure the quality slider is at 31 (max) and, sometimes, change the DC Coefficient to 10bit. MPEG2 for DVD should be LOWER field first, just like DV.

August 5th, 2003, 11:19 AM	#698
Darrell Sullivan Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 42	Thanks Edward, that did the trick.

August 5th, 2003, 12:17 PM	#699
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Regarding the field issue I've heard the exact opposite. I asked around when I was having problems with my first DVD and the consensus was that DV is lower first but MPG2 DVD is upper first. However I'll follow your advice and keep it on lower. I bet you knew this was comming....what is DC coefficient?

August 5th, 2003, 12:42 PM	#700
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If you started with CCE, for some reason you have to pick UPPER first for it to be right. Most others use LOWER first (which is correct). Main Concept, TMPGenc, Ligos, ... all use lower first.

August 5th, 2003, 12:59 PM	#701
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	CCE?

August 5th, 2003, 01:20 PM	#702
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Cinema Craft Encoder

August 5th, 2003, 08:14 PM	#704
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	It is standard. I don't have a 5.1 setup and it's there on my Vegas... I think it's used to select what to monitor....heh.

August 5th, 2003, 08:17 PM	#705
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Maybe I'm loosing my mind then because I saw it and swore it was NEW. Man I really have to get away from this computer sometimes!