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Old September 5th, 2003, 09:35 PM   #946
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Never seen a graphic card with a firewire connection. However, that would still require the camera as passthru.

The Canopus card is similar to the external convertor units built into a card.
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Old September 5th, 2003, 10:28 PM   #947
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Thans for the tip on the canopus .. do you happen to knwo of somethign liek that with component in/out ?

cheers, and thanks for the tips
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Old September 5th, 2003, 11:57 PM   #948
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Did you look at that Canopus card? I believe it HAS component in and out.
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Old September 6th, 2003, 06:48 AM   #949
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I use the canopus advc-100 (external) and it has in/out analog and digital.

Just make sure it's on a standalone firewirecard in your computer if you're using Vegas. Two of us just went through the mill debugging that problem.
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Old September 6th, 2003, 07:03 AM   #950
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This canopus card "looks" like a firewire card to the system but accepts an analog signal. Here are the specs I found:

> AVCEDVio PCI card
> FireWire cable (4pin)
> Composite to S-Video conversion cable
> ACEDVio controller software CD-ROM (Windows support only)
> Vegas 4.0 (full version OEM edition)
> User Manual

Digital Video in/out
> 4pin FireWire connector

IEEE 1394 in/out
> 6pin FireWire connector

Analog Video in/out
> S-video and composite combined (7pin miniDIN) input
> S-video and composite combined (7pin miniDIN) output

Analog Audio in/out
> Stereo RCA input
> Stereo RCA output

OHCI specification
> Link layer complies with IEEE 1394 Open Host Controller Interface specification release 1.1
> Physical layer complies with IEEE 1394a-2000 (Data rate: 100/200/400Mbps)
> Modular 32-bit host interface complies with PCI Specification release 2.2
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Old September 6th, 2003, 07:33 AM   #951
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New firewire card doesn't resolve video latency with external monitor

I hate to drag this back up guys but I'm at my wits end (it frustrated a client yesterday almost as much as it frustrates me); after searching and reading threads here I was really hoping that I just had a funky firewire card but my new one gives the exact same results. If I slide the "sync offset" (under preferences / video device) all the way up to 12 frames I still get some latency in my monitor. Please, what the heck should I try next?
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Old September 6th, 2003, 08:14 AM   #952
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What do you mean by monitor latency?
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Old September 6th, 2003, 08:14 AM   #953
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Hey Rob

I also shoot in the Canon frame mode (XL1S) frequently and have a question regarding your suggestion: To "Make sure your project is set to progressive and you output as
progressive..." do I just do the following 2 steps:
1) file/project properties/video/field order = none
2)right-click all clips/properties/media/field order = none
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Old September 6th, 2003, 08:27 AM   #954
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Thanks for your interest Jeff,
I mean with the default setting of 4 in preferences/video device/sync offset my external monitor is close to a full second behind the audio. If I shove it all the way up to 12 it's not as bad but still a little behind. The firewire card is on it's own IRQ and my PC is plenty fast (P4 3.06, 800mhz bus). I have a feeling I have something set wrong because it worked fine on the default on a slower PC I have. On another forum someone suspects my dual video card, an NVIDIA Ge Force4 MX440, sharing an IRQ with Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller 24D2 <i>AND</i> 24DE but I haven't heard back from them yet.
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Old September 6th, 2003, 08:35 AM   #955
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How much ram and what OS?
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Old September 6th, 2003, 08:49 AM   #956
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Randy,

Are you storing your footage on the same drive as your operating system? I have experienced problems with playback through the firewire when I was reading footage off of my OS drive because of mistakenly saving it there.
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Thanks guys,
>How much ram and what OS?<
1GB, XP home

>Are you storing your footage on the same drive as your operating system? <
No sir, I have a separate drive
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Old September 6th, 2003, 08:55 AM   #958
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Randy, there is a way to get higher values than 12 but it involves editing the registry (not generally recommended unless you really know what you are doing). However, you SHOULDN'T need that high a value which indicates SOMETHING may be wrong.

IF you wish to risk it, for full details see here:

http://www.sonicfoundry.com/forums/S...ssageID=116237


(but don't blame ME if something goes wrong)
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Old September 6th, 2003, 09:02 AM   #959
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Thanks Edward but I feel something is definitely wrong since it seems to be a rather unique problem (according to my searches here and at another forum) and I do have a rather fast system ( and I'll be paying for it for a while, so it would be nice if the damned thing worked better than my old one : )
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Old September 6th, 2003, 10:09 AM   #960
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When you get past 25 posts, you go up one notch. Congratulations.

You should have enough ram. You have only one item hooked up to the FireWire card? Do you have another video card to swap with your present one? If you do, you can test your video card theory.
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