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Joe Carney September 7th, 2006 11:53 AM

Vegas 7 officially announced
 
Here is the link over at
Sony Media Software in the Vegas forum.

http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/for...9877&Replies=0

Emre Safak September 7th, 2006 12:50 PM

Try as I might, I find little to get excited about. ATRAC3 support...woohoo! Perhaps the new workflow features will offer something.

Dan Keaton September 7th, 2006 02:25 PM

Here is a link for Vegas 7.0 with more information.

http://dv411.com/vegas7.html

I called Sony Media Software (4 PM EDT September 7, 2006).

They said is it not currently available for sale, and will not divulge when it will be, nor will they release any pricing information.

Joe Carney September 7th, 2006 02:29 PM

A lot of people are still using portable Sony Audio recorders for professional use. PSP might not matter much in the future since SGI announced they are ceasing production on their MIPs processor.

The other stuff in the NLE itself seems more like cleaning up and tightening. More of a .5 release instead of a full point.

Many are happy with the new features in DVDA4.

Surround audio encoding for WMV HD (Important to me on that one).

It appears they will be the only NLE with 'FULL' support of the XDCAM HD and all it's features.

Have to remember the press release is for everyone, not just existing users. My initial reaction was negative, but I'm going to ask some more questions and wait for a full review. Then make my decision. Upgrade or go back to Adobe. No threats, no whining, just wondering.

Emre Safak September 7th, 2006 02:35 PM

They had better support XDCAM--they invented it!

Joe Carney September 7th, 2006 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Keaton
Here is a link for Vegas 7.0 with more information.

http://dv411.com/vegas7.html

I called Sony Media Software (4 PM EDT September 7, 2006).

They said is it not currently available for sale, and will not divulge when it will be, nor will they release any pricing information.

So what we have here is a paper release? I thought only ATI did that :).
Just kidding...

Scott Brickert September 7th, 2006 08:22 PM

previewing
 
I hope "enhanced video previewing" means something like "we'll use all the CPU(s) and maybe event the GPU to deliver full frame real time previewing."



Scott

Jay Hancock September 8th, 2006 10:34 AM

From what we've seen with the various announcements (particularly the detailed one from yesterday at IBC), enhanced video previewing includes:

* faster playback rates with HDV
* simultaneous previewing in Vegas and on external monitor
* automatic sizing of preview in window (or something like that)

Randy Stewart September 8th, 2006 02:35 PM

I've seen the timeline playback of unrendered native HDV clips (including effects, music, etc.) at almost 29.97 fps in V7 on a Sony Vaio laptop (sneak preview courtesy of Spot). You can edit native HDV as easily as SDV. Performance is greatly enhanced. Cinescore is also embedded as an option on the menu (plug-in). Lot's of other enhancements. Can't wait to see how much faster SDV performance is.
Randy

Chris Barcellos September 8th, 2006 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Stewart
I've seen the timeline playback of unrendered native HDV clips (including effects, music, etc.) at almost 29.97 fps in V7 on a Sony Vaio laptop (sneak preview courtesy of Spot). You can edit native HDV as easily as SDV. Performance is greatly enhanced. Cinescore is also embedded as an option on the menu (plug-in). Lot's of other enhancements. Can't wait to see how much faster SDV performance is.
Randy

Spot has been against native HDV editing for a long time, arguing that it creates a lot of problems in the Editing process. He's recommended Cineform or other intermediate codecs. Is Vegas becoming better at editing HDV ?

Dan Keaton September 8th, 2006 03:43 PM

Based on a conversation with Sony Media Software, I expect Vegas 7.0 to be announced next week (September 11 through September 15).

We can expect the announcement to appear on Sony Media Software's website:

http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/

There will be an upgrade program.

Mike Kujbida September 8th, 2006 06:54 PM

Sept. 12 is the release date.

Jay Hancock September 10th, 2006 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Barcellos
Spot has been against native HDV editing for a long time, arguing that it creates a lot of problems in the Editing process. He's recommended Cineform or other intermediate codecs. Is Vegas becoming better at editing HDV ?

As far as HDV being bad for editing, this depends largely on what you are doing. If you are doing simple cuts and edits, there's nothing wrong with editing HDV (once we are done with the performance issues of the past, which it sounds like V7 may accomplish).

All MPG2 formats (HDV included) suffer from generation loss. That's the kicker. Maybe one re-encoding is inevitable, but second and third generations of the MPG2 will suffer more and more due to resampling of the color space and decompression followed by recompression of the image and audio data.

Where the intermediates make a big advantage (besides performance speed) is when you are doing something more complex, especially compositing or resizing video. Without an intermediate, your editor can create generation loss in these complex operations as a consequence of what it is doing internally (i.e. decompressing a frame, resizing/interpolating and then recompressing it into MPG2 with a color resample and the works).

So I might suggest that if you want to do some simple cut edits you could go straight with HDV but if you want to do more complex stuff you should use an intermediate.

This is just a summary of discussion from folks who are hugely more knowledgeable than I am. For more discussion, do a search on "intermediates" or proxy or CFDI on the official Sony Vegas forum.

Sean Seah September 11th, 2006 08:58 AM

The estimated retail price is USD699.

Gary Bettan September 11th, 2006 10:46 AM

based on our conversations with Sony we'll be launching Vegas 7+DVD @ $499.95

While supplies last we're selling off our Vegas 6 + DVD inventory at $399.95 after $50 mail in rebate. Plus you get a free upgrade to Vegas 7 and DVD arch 4.

http://www.videoguys.com/vegasvideo.html

We hope ot have upgrade pricing for exisiting Vegas 6 +DVD and VEgas 6 owners (as wella s owenrs of older versions) later today. We're alos trying to put together some cool upfgrade offers/ bundles.

Gary

Dan Keaton September 11th, 2006 02:14 PM

Sony Media Software now has a page for Vegas 7.0 stating "Coming Soon":

http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/products/vegas-cs.asp?

Sean Seah September 12th, 2006 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Bettan
based on our conversations with Sony we'll be launching Vegas 7+DVD @ $499.95

While supplies last we're selling off our Vegas 6 + DVD inventory at $399.95 after $50 mail in rebate. Plus you get a free upgrade to Vegas 7 and DVD arch 4.

http://www.videoguys.com/vegasvideo.html

We hope ot have upgrade pricing for exisiting Vegas 6 +DVD and VEgas 6 owners (as wella s owenrs of older versions) later today. We're alos trying to put together some cool upfgrade offers/ bundles.

Gary

Nice! Do u guys ship overseas?

Gary Bettan September 12th, 2006 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Seah
Nice! Do u guys ship overseas?

Yes we do.

And for existing users looking for a great upgrade deal:

Announcing new Sony Vegas+DVD software, featuring Vegas 7, DVD Architect 4 and Dolby Digital AC-3 encoding software. Newly upgraded with an expanded feature set, it's the most powerful and comprehensive video, audio, and DVD production suite available. Take advantage of three promotions:
Through October 31, upgrade from any version of Vegas or the Vegas+DVD Production Suite to the new Vegas+DVD for only $149.95, a savings of $100.


Ready to step up to Vegas+DVD? Upgrade from Vegas Movie Studio or Vegas Movie Studio Platinum for only $299.95, a savings of $141.


https://www.sonymediasoftware.com/sh...&keycode=63001

Go get it boys & girls. This offer is only available from Sony.

Gary

Joe Bowey September 12th, 2006 05:56 PM

I have version 4 so if I upgraded to 7 would I get a full version or an updated version? Can I even go from 4 to 7 with an upgrade or would I need a full version?
Also, anyone putting version 7 on a laptop?

Jon McGuffin September 12th, 2006 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Bowey
I have version 4 so if I upgraded to 7 would I get a full version or an updated version? Can I even go from 4 to 7 with an upgrade or would I need a full version?
Also, anyone putting version 7 on a laptop?

This is a question I would like to know as well. I just recently bought Sony Vegas version 6.0 from B&H Photo for $99 (still available to all if you have interest) and plan to pay the $149.95 upgrade to Vegas+DVD. I want to be sure I'm not buying an "upgrade" version of the software and am getting the full deal.

Jon

Mike Kujbida September 12th, 2006 06:46 PM

Jon & Joe, you will be getting the full version if/when you upgrade to Vegas 7. Don't worry about the B&H deal as folks on other forums have reported no problems getting the upgrade with this package.
Lastly, the upgrade offer is good for (almost) any version of Vegas.
Losts of users run Vegas 6 on a laptop without issues so I don't see why Vegas 7 would be a problem.
The Sony site says:

Upgrade any professional version of Vegas (Vegas Pro, Vegas Audio, or Vegas Video, Vegas, or Vegas+DVD) to Vegas+DVD.
Pricing excludes Vegas LE

Edward Troxel September 12th, 2006 08:32 PM

There is ONE version. When you get the full version, update to the full version, or academic version of the full version, they are ALL the same with exactly the same features.

As for running Vegas 7 on a laptop, that's where *I* have it installed!

Seth Bloombaum September 12th, 2006 08:58 PM

How much for upgrade?
 
EDIT: Never mind, just found the link in Gary's post in this thread.

I was expecting a $149 upgrade price.

"My Account" at the sonymediasoftware site says $234.95 for the download version upgrade to "Vegas+DVD", which I assume is V7.

Have I missed another Vegas Upgrade email, or is this the price other registered users are getting?

Jay Hancock September 12th, 2006 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Bloombaum
I was expecting a $149 upgrade price.

"My Account" at the sonymediasoftware site says $234.95 for the download version upgrade to "Vegas+DVD", which I assume is V7.

Have I missed another Vegas Upgrade email, or is this the price other registered users are getting?

Click on "Buy Now" and it will take you to a new page with the discounted price (if you are eligible, presumably).

Jon McGuffin September 12th, 2006 10:12 PM

Thanks Jay for your comments on this and easing my concerns. I will be receiving my copy in two days and will order from Sony immediately. :)

Seth Bloombaum September 12th, 2006 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Hancock
Click on "Buy Now" and it will take you to a new page with the discounted price (if you are eligible, presumably).

EDIT: never mind - I just found the link in Gary Bettan's post above in this thread

Ian Stark September 13th, 2006 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Seah
Nice! Do u guys ship overseas?

I recommend you double check that the mail-in rebate is valid for non-US customers. I bought a 1Gb SD card (when this was the latest and greatest, a couple of years ago) from Best Buy while on a US trip. It was only something like a $20 rebate but they wouldn't hounour it with a non-US address.

Ian . . .

Bogdan Vaglarov September 13th, 2006 07:02 AM

This is really the best deal I ever had with software!
I also bought Vegas 6 from B&H Photo (actually I had it here for record short time) and checked the Sony media that on first look said upgrade is 235$.

Now with the info you guys provided one can upgrade for as little as 135$ (downloadable version) for a total price of 234$ (well I had shipping 27$).
Truly amazing!

Sean Seah September 13th, 2006 10:26 AM

Yeah I guess the mail in is not going to work for me :( oh well, will get my pal in the US to do it for me!

Joe Bowey September 13th, 2006 03:56 PM

Anyone ordering the box package or download? Also anyone ordering cinescore, I see there is a great deal on it and I also noted the $15 optional package.

Edward Troxel September 13th, 2006 08:51 PM

There's really no difference between the box version and download version except:

Box version: you get a quick start manual and a few other pieces of paper along with the CD of the program (which may contain 7.0 so you need to download 7.0a anyway) and the extras CD

Download: You get the most current version and you get it NOW. The $15 extra option when purchasing the download version will get you the extras CD mailed separately.

As for Cinescore, that's a great price and I'd jump on it in a heartbeat if you don't already own it.

Dan Keaton September 14th, 2006 06:46 AM

Yes, I ordered the upgrade, boxed edition, and Cinescore.

It has been shipped and will be here tomorrow.


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