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Old May 1st, 2003, 12:57 AM   #16
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Yeah. . .the "film" motion only matters on a TV. On my computer, video does play at what looks like 24fps when I watch it in a quicktime movie player or the vegas preview window.
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Old May 1st, 2003, 01:04 AM   #17
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Exactly. Another thing that sucks, is that unless you have a DVD burner, you can't get a good glimpse of what it's going to look like on TV unless you dump an uncompressed version(AVI) to S-VHS and watch it. It's just sad that you are losing alot of quality in doing so. DVD is the best right now. I guess you can simply watch it thru a video out right to the TV but it's still not the same because your computer video card's output still has that computer output, not DVD/VHS player look.
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Old May 1st, 2003, 01:35 AM   #18
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You can dump an uncompressed AVI back out to miniDV tape, then watch that on your TV via the cam's SVHS or composite output. That'll be the same/better than a DVD version. Also, you'll have a backup master of your film in case your hard drive goes bye bye.
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Yea, I thought of that right after I posted. I forgot about the lossless transfer of DV in/out mode.
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Old May 1st, 2003, 01:37 AM   #20
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If your computer's up to snuff, it should be able to play in realtime from the timeline on your TV--provided you have a way of previewing your timeline through a TV. I tried this also. The 60i footage looks like 60i, and the 24p looks like 24p.
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Old May 1st, 2003, 06:09 PM   #21
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I'm still lost though. If I burn this 24p AVI file to a CD R, and then someone imports it into a 60i project. . .will it work the way it's supposed to? Would it be better to print the 24p file to a tape, and then have him import that?
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Old May 1st, 2003, 10:33 PM   #22
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It probably depends on what software they import it to :)

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Old May 2nd, 2003, 02:27 AM   #23
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It'll be Premiere. Don't know which version.
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Old May 4th, 2003, 01:49 PM   #24
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Re: 24p in Vegas. . .I think I'm lost

<<<-- Originally posted by Josh Bass : I'm going to be handing this off to another editor at some point. When he imports it from tape or a CD-R, will he import it as 24p or 29.97? It'll be a segment in a show, and the rest of the show is 29.97. If he moves this file into his 29.97 project, will it play correctly? Headache. . .ouch. -->>>

To answer your original quesions, Vegas 24p projects rendered to 24p AVI / DV can be treated as regular 60i DV in any other system that accepts AVI / DV.

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Old May 4th, 2003, 04:54 PM   #25
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But does it look right? Will the program know to do a 2-3 pulldown when importing the footage?
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<<<-- Originally posted by Josh Bass : But does it look right? Will the program know to do a 2-3 pulldown when importing the footage? -->>>

Perfectly. Vegas does the 2-3 pulldown when it renders the file. It also marks it with the special "shooting frame rate" header so that if Vegas (or another DVX100 savvy NLE) reads the file, it will extract 24p again. Any other system, including DV hardware, will see it as 60i.

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Old May 5th, 2003, 12:48 AM   #27
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Thanks. The issue, I now realize, is irrelevant, because using the 24p template with uncompressed video makes the files huge! A 48 second file was like 1.5 Gigs!
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Why don't you use the template called "NTSC DV 24p (inserting 2-3 pulldown)" -- it will be 13G per hour of video, just like normal DV. Isn't that what you want?
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Old May 5th, 2003, 01:13 AM   #29
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Just tried it. Still get very noticeable blockiness in some shots. Only seems to look decent with uncompressed video.


Also, why, if the project itself is 24 fps, when I render uncompressed, does it squish the video vertically a little? It doesn't do this in a 29.97 project. Odd.
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