HV20 PAL 25p in Sony Vegas? at DVinfo.net

Peter Hatton · April 4th, 2007, 02:41 AM

Hi everyone. Im in the UK and am about to take delivery of the HV20 any day now, and have a question about the 25p mode. Ive been editing 1080i footage from my Sony HC1 for about a year within Sony Vegas 6/7 with no problems. This 25p mode is completley new to me, can somebody tell me how to edit it? Vegas 7 has templates for ;

HD 1080-50i (1920x1080, 25.000 fps)
HDV 720-25p (1280x720, 25.000 fps)

but which do i use?? If im shooting in 25p and want a progressive look to my finished output can i edit my footage within either of these preset templates?? Finally, can i mix 1080i footage from my old HC1 with the 25p footage from my HV20 and still acheive a progressive output? Any help would be very welcome and appreciated. Cheers guys.

Yow Siang · April 4th, 2007, 05:41 AM

Hi peter,
like to check with you, how were you able to order the HV20 Pal, have been looking everywhere but couldnt find any, is it an online store?
many thanks
ys

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Originally Posted by Peter Hatton

Hi everyone. Im in the UK and am about to take delivery of the HV20 any day now, and have a question about the 25p mode. Ive been editing 1080i footage from my Sony HC1 for about a year within Sony Vegas 6/7 with no problems. This 25p mode is completley new to me, can somebody tell me how to edit it? Vegas 7 has templates for ;

HD 1080-50i (1920x1080, 25.000 fps)
HDV 720-25p (1280x720, 25.000 fps)

but which do i use?? If im shooting in 25p and want a progressive look to my finished output can i edit my footage within either of these preset templates?? Finally, can i mix 1080i footage from my old HC1 with the 25p footage from my HV20 and still acheive a progressive output? Any help would be very welcome and appreciated. Cheers guys.

Fergus Anderson · April 4th, 2007, 05:46 AM

Peter - I am also interested in knowing where you have sourced the HV20 from!

I currently use the HV10 and it will be interesting to see how 25p works with 50i in Vegas - I'm afraid I have no answers yet.

Peter Hatton · April 4th, 2007, 07:13 AM

hiya, try the following link;

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?&Quicklinx=4FKF

its for DABS.COM who are offering the uk pal HV20 for £733. they have told me i can expect it anytime very soon. Ive pre-ordered camcorders before from DABS and they tend to get them in stock before any offical release date (in my experience anyway). There postal charges are very reasonably too, about £6 i think.
Im a complete newbie to 25p and i have no idea how to edit it correctly in Vegas, hope someone here can give me a clue!

Glenn Thomas · April 4th, 2007, 07:50 AM

Here's a company with it advertised here in Australia.

http://www.computeralliance.com.au/p...x?qryPart=7788

Yow Siang · April 4th, 2007, 07:59 AM

Guys,
that you for the links but unfortunately none of them ships internationally to singapore :)

thanks
ys

Glenn Thomas · April 4th, 2007, 08:08 AM

Yow, I'm surprised you guys don't alreay have it there with those two huge computer and electronics shopping centres. I've forgotten their names though...

Povl H. Pedersen · April 4th, 2007, 11:25 AM

Here in Denmark, more shops are listing it as being in stock on the 10th of April. I have it on order in one shop with this date, and another with unknown date.

Price has been creeping down. I started with a price of 9200 kr = 835 UKP. Now most shops are down around 8500 kr = 772 UKP. A few shops are 15 UKP cheaper. VAT is 25% here in Denmark.

German web shops do not have a delivery date. The most optimistic says 5-10 days. But I hope I will have it before my birthday in a little over 2 weeks.

Swedish webpages says 7th - 10th april. So it will be here soon.

Yow Siang · April 4th, 2007, 05:16 PM

Yes i am very disappointed too, infact i ask many shops from the 2 ITmalls and they respnded" HV20? what is that? is there such a model?"
Can't believe this.. I even called Canon Singapore and they have completely no idea when itis launching.

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Originally Posted by Glenn Thomas

Yow, I'm surprised you guys don't alreay have it there with those two huge computer and electronics shopping centres. I've forgotten their names though...

Guy Bruner · April 5th, 2007, 06:30 AM

Just put the video on the timeline and change project properties to progressive. That will preview your video as progressive (deinterlace) as you edit and will make the generated media match up with the 25p footage.

Peter Hatton · April 5th, 2007, 12:57 PM

Thanks Guy, are you saying that i should use the HD 1080-50i (1920x1080, 25.000 fps) template, but change the properties such as the" field order" to progressive scan? Do i need to change the width (1920) or height (1080) and do i leave the pixel aspect ratio at 1.0000? Finally do i need to change anything in the "deinterlace method" box, it defaults to blend fields but there is an option of "none". Presumably then i can mix 1080i footage and the 25p footage on the same timeline and still acheive progressive output? Cheers for helping a 25p newbie!

Dennis Vogel · April 5th, 2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Hatton

Presumably then i can mix 1080i footage and the 25p footage on the same timeline and still acheive progressive output?

I can't anwer your other questions but I'm pretty sure Vegas can handle any mix of formats on the timeline. It is widely described as being "format agnostic".

Good luck.

Dennis

Peter Hatton · April 18th, 2007, 01:12 PM

Just a quick note let everyone know who has been waiting for the UK PAL release of the HV20 that mine has been shipped today from DABS.COM (in the uk) and will be arriving at my home tomorrow. DABS have confirmed this today.The website at the time of writing this is showing it as "awaiting stock" but it may be worth giving them a call if you are in the market for the PAL version. Hope this is of use to someone!

April 4th, 2007, 02:41 AM	#1
Peter Hatton New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 11	HV20 PAL 25p in Sony Vegas? Hi everyone. Im in the UK and am about to take delivery of the HV20 any day now, and have a question about the 25p mode. Ive been editing 1080i footage from my Sony HC1 for about a year within Sony Vegas 6/7 with no problems. This 25p mode is completley new to me, can somebody tell me how to edit it? Vegas 7 has templates for ; HD 1080-50i (1920x1080, 25.000 fps) HDV 720-25p (1280x720, 25.000 fps) but which do i use?? If im shooting in 25p and want a progressive look to my finished output can i edit my footage within either of these preset templates?? Finally, can i mix 1080i footage from my old HC1 with the 25p footage from my HV20 and still acheive a progressive output? Any help would be very welcome and appreciated. Cheers guys.

April 18th, 2007, 01:12 PM	#13
Peter Hatton New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 11	Hv20 Uk Pal Now Shipping! Just a quick note let everyone know who has been waiting for the UK PAL release of the HV20 that mine has been shipped today from DABS.COM (in the uk) and will be arriving at my home tomorrow. DABS have confirmed this today.The website at the time of writing this is showing it as "awaiting stock" but it may be worth giving them a call if you are in the market for the PAL version. Hope this is of use to someone!

April 4th, 2007, 05:46 AM	#3
Fergus Anderson Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 321	Peter - I am also interested in knowing where you have sourced the HV20 from! I currently use the HV10 and it will be interesting to see how 25p works with 50i in Vegas - I'm afraid I have no answers yet.

April 4th, 2007, 07:13 AM	#4
Peter Hatton New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 11	hiya, try the following link; http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?&Quicklinx=4FKF its for DABS.COM who are offering the uk pal HV20 for £733. they have told me i can expect it anytime very soon. Ive pre-ordered camcorders before from DABS and they tend to get them in stock before any offical release date (in my experience anyway). There postal charges are very reasonably too, about £6 i think. Im a complete newbie to 25p and i have no idea how to edit it correctly in Vegas, hope someone here can give me a clue!

April 4th, 2007, 07:50 AM	#5
Glenn Thomas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 320	Here's a company with it advertised here in Australia. http://www.computeralliance.com.au/p...x?qryPart=7788

April 4th, 2007, 07:59 AM	#6
Yow Siang Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 153	Guys, that you for the links but unfortunately none of them ships internationally to singapore :) thanks ys

April 4th, 2007, 08:08 AM	#7
Glenn Thomas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 320	Yow, I'm surprised you guys don't alreay have it there with those two huge computer and electronics shopping centres. I've forgotten their names though...

April 4th, 2007, 11:25 AM	#8
Povl H. Pedersen Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Aarhus, Denmark Posts: 28	Here in Denmark, more shops are listing it as being in stock on the 10th of April. I have it on order in one shop with this date, and another with unknown date. Price has been creeping down. I started with a price of 9200 kr = 835 UKP. Now most shops are down around 8500 kr = 772 UKP. A few shops are 15 UKP cheaper. VAT is 25% here in Denmark. German web shops do not have a delivery date. The most optimistic says 5-10 days. But I hope I will have it before my birthday in a little over 2 weeks. Swedish webpages says 7th - 10th april. So it will be here soon.

April 5th, 2007, 06:30 AM	#10
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	Just put the video on the timeline and change project properties to progressive. That will preview your video as progressive (deinterlace) as you edit and will make the generated media match up with the 25p footage.

April 5th, 2007, 12:57 PM	#11
Peter Hatton New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 11	Thanks Guy, are you saying that i should use the HD 1080-50i (1920x1080, 25.000 fps) template, but change the properties such as the" field order" to progressive scan? Do i need to change the width (1920) or height (1080) and do i leave the pixel aspect ratio at 1.0000? Finally do i need to change anything in the "deinterlace method" box, it defaults to blend fields but there is an option of "none". Presumably then i can mix 1080i footage and the 25p footage on the same timeline and still acheive progressive output? Cheers for helping a 25p newbie!