Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q3Q4)

Rob Lohman · August 11th, 2004, 06:03 AM

Well basically it is not out yet. It has only been released to beta
testers and partners of Microsoft. So testing hasn't really begun
for the consumers yet. You've survived this long on SP1 so I would
not upgrade to SP2 for a couple of weeks at least.

A lot has changed in the service pack. I so no reason for Vegas
not to work, but I would not advice against testing if you do not
have a very good knowledge of Windows and problem solving.

SP2 is a bit overhyped and I'm pretty sure a lot will still work.
The major thing for consumers is that the Firewall is now enabled
on all connections per default. This can cause some problems if
you already are running a third party firewall or don't have one.

The other biggest change has to do with network security but
a single user system will not see anything of this. This network
security will only hit you when you are doing DCOM which a lot
of people ARE NOT doing anyway.

Why am I then saying you should wait? Because you can never
be sure. Microsoft can't test everything in the world and errors
or problems can always crop up. Again, you have survived this
long on SP1 so just wait a bit longer.

I'm gonna do some tests myself this week and I might test Vegas
as well, although I'm not to keen on installing it on my main
machine just yet. I need the ability to do some work!

Edward Troxel · August 11th, 2004, 07:11 AM

According to Sony, they have been testing it for quite a while and have not discovered any problems. If you DO install it and discover a problem, they want to know about it immediately.

Peter Jefferson · August 11th, 2004, 07:30 AM

most of SP2 goodies are downlaodbal from windows updates anyway :)
theres nothing too significant out there that isnt prolly already installed on ur machine..

Peter Jefferson · August 11th, 2004, 07:48 AM

if its not 100% to the front, u WILL get bleeding in the rears..
(no heameroids jokes please..lol)

Glen Elliott · August 11th, 2004, 08:04 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Lars Siden : Hello Glen,

Great work!

I really love the end scene with the bell and the overcast sky ( did you film like 2 minutes and then sped it up ? )
Exactly- then I applied a small zoom using pan crop.

The in-zoomed-eye to white flash -> forrest is also very nice!
Thank you- yeah I love that "flash" transition.

One thing that I noticed:

First scene when you super impose the brick wall on the church - I think it is a bit "quick" I'd like the bricks to come in a bit smoother.
Thanks for the input- I'll take a look at the timing of that transition again. Sometimes you get too close to these projects and miss things.

Cosmin Rotaru · August 11th, 2004, 08:58 AM

He's not talking about "bleeds".

I get that, too, Stewart...
The sound gets from left, to right, and then to the lfet again, even though you panned it to the right. I have no idee why this happends :(

Allan Phan · August 11th, 2004, 09:21 AM

Hi, Northern VA here, Alexandria to be axact. I'm a Vegas user 4+5 mainly for wedding.

Joe Carney · August 11th, 2004, 10:11 AM

Welcome.
Our kickoff meeting is scheduled Sunday, 4 PM, Aug 22 at the Food Court at Union Station, because it's accessable for just about everyone by Metro and/or car. I believe the Red Line gets you there if you prefer not to drive.
Email me and I'll pass your name on to Mickey. We want a relaxed atmosphere so everyone can discuss what sort of group we want to be. Everyone can get something to eat and contribute their ideas. We will also be open to suggestions as to where to meet on a regular basis. Something accessable, cheap or free and has good electrical hookups.

Lars Siden · August 11th, 2004, 10:27 AM

Hi,

I'm running Vegas v5.0b and Win XP Pro Eng SP2 - works perfectly! ( Installed the final SP2 3 days ago, have been running the betas and RC:s earlier ).

Best regards,

Lars Siden

Joe Carney · August 11th, 2004, 02:58 PM

The groups isn't just for those who live close to DC, but for those that work in and around DC. All are invited. We will have members that live in Fredericksburg and Chantilly.

Gints Klimanis · August 11th, 2004, 02:59 PM

In general, unless you really need a feature or fix in new software, don't upgrade. Everyone assumes software development will produce improvements. Just about the
only thing you can count on is an increase in the size
of the software. New software is a combination of
previous bugs and features and new bugs and features.

(Personal rant)
A prime example is Pinnacle Studio9. It has the same
critical bugs of Studio8 (Audio/Video out of sync, lack
of project time estimation, rerenders existing MPEG2
files, butt-slow editing performance with
more than 15 chapters, etc.), but comes in a shiny new
box, with new graphics and "bonus" content, and
lots of little things to click on that ask you for your
credit card.

Chris Thomas · August 11th, 2004, 10:21 PM

I like the camera movement on the close-up of the flowers while leaving the statue and background stationary. Must have taken some time to perfect.

Nice audio, where is it from, and is it royalty free, or dare I ask? I am interested in licensing some decent tracks, but can't seem to find anything worth while at any reasonable price.

Just well done, I really enjoyed it.

Glen Elliott · August 12th, 2004, 08:13 AM

Dan check out my post here:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=30423

I have the Gary Kleiner DVDA2 Training Discs (2 discs)....I'll be putting them for sale as soon as I'm done watching them. If your interested in them as well check back in a few weeks. If you need them ASAP- I'd suggest ordering them from www.VegasTrainingandTools.com

Lance Spratt · August 12th, 2004, 01:45 PM

I have used Vegas for mulitple multitrack audio projects, however the source files were always recorded on a pro audio multitrack recorder and converted to .wav files before being brought into Vegas. What I am looking into is whether Vegas will allow you to map dedicated audio inputs to specific audio tracks on the timeline for recording real-time from an audio interface such as the Edirol FA-101 8-track firewire interface (http://www.edirol.com/products/info/fa101.html). basically, I want to record 8 discreet audio tracks from external audio sources at the same time. Will Vegas do this with the appropriate interface hardware?

Your input is appreciated!

Gary Kleiner · August 12th, 2004, 06:13 PM

I am not DSE, but can tell you that I have recently done excalty what you are describing: 8 tracks live to the timeline...for three hours.

No problem. I used a MOTU 896HD.

Gary

August 11th, 2004, 06:03 AM	#466
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Well basically it is not out yet. It has only been released to beta testers and partners of Microsoft. So testing hasn't really begun for the consumers yet. You've survived this long on SP1 so I would not upgrade to SP2 for a couple of weeks at least. A lot has changed in the service pack. I so no reason for Vegas not to work, but I would not advice against testing if you do not have a very good knowledge of Windows and problem solving. SP2 is a bit overhyped and I'm pretty sure a lot will still work. The major thing for consumers is that the Firewall is now enabled on all connections per default. This can cause some problems if you already are running a third party firewall or don't have one. The other biggest change has to do with network security but a single user system will not see anything of this. This network security will only hit you when you are doing DCOM which a lot of people ARE NOT doing anyway. Why am I then saying you should wait? Because you can never be sure. Microsoft can't test everything in the world and errors or problems can always crop up. Again, you have survived this long on SP1 so just wait a bit longer. I'm gonna do some tests myself this week and I might test Vegas as well, although I'm not to keen on installing it on my main machine just yet. I need the ability to do some work! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 11th, 2004, 07:11 AM	#467
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	According to Sony, they have been testing it for quite a while and have not discovered any problems. If you DO install it and discover a problem, they want to know about it immediately. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

August 11th, 2004, 08:58 AM	#471
Cosmin Rotaru Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Romania, Timisoara Posts: 453	He's not talking about "bleeds". I get that, too, Stewart... The sound gets from left, to right, and then to the lfet again, even though you panned it to the right. I have no idee why this happends :( __________________ Cosmin Rotaru

August 12th, 2004, 01:45 PM	#479
Lance Spratt Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Devon, Alberta, Canada Posts: 47	DSE - Vegas for Multitrack Audio Recording I have used Vegas for mulitple multitrack audio projects, however the source files were always recorded on a pro audio multitrack recorder and converted to .wav files before being brought into Vegas. What I am looking into is whether Vegas will allow you to map dedicated audio inputs to specific audio tracks on the timeline for recording real-time from an audio interface such as the Edirol FA-101 8-track firewire interface (http://www.edirol.com/products/info/fa101.html). basically, I want to record 8 discreet audio tracks from external audio sources at the same time. Will Vegas do this with the appropriate interface hardware? Your input is appreciated! __________________ Lance Spratt

August 11th, 2004, 07:30 AM	#468
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	most of SP2 goodies are downlaodbal from windows updates anyway :) theres nothing too significant out there that isnt prolly already installed on ur machine..

August 11th, 2004, 07:48 AM	#469
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	if its not 100% to the front, u WILL get bleeding in the rears.. (no heameroids jokes please..lol)

August 11th, 2004, 08:04 AM	#470
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	<<<-- Originally posted by Lars Siden : Hello Glen, Great work! I really love the end scene with the bell and the overcast sky ( did you film like 2 minutes and then sped it up ? ) Exactly- then I applied a small zoom using pan crop. The in-zoomed-eye to white flash -> forrest is also very nice! Thank you- yeah I love that "flash" transition. One thing that I noticed: First scene when you super impose the brick wall on the church - I think it is a bit "quick" I'd like the bricks to come in a bit smoother. Thanks for the input- I'll take a look at the timing of that transition again. Sometimes you get too close to these projects and miss things.

August 11th, 2004, 09:21 AM	#472
Allan Phan Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 95	Hi, Northern VA here, Alexandria to be axact. I'm a Vegas user 4+5 mainly for wedding.

August 11th, 2004, 10:11 AM	#473
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Welcome. Our kickoff meeting is scheduled Sunday, 4 PM, Aug 22 at the Food Court at Union Station, because it's accessable for just about everyone by Metro and/or car. I believe the Red Line gets you there if you prefer not to drive. Email me and I'll pass your name on to Mickey. We want a relaxed atmosphere so everyone can discuss what sort of group we want to be. Everyone can get something to eat and contribute their ideas. We will also be open to suggestions as to where to meet on a regular basis. Something accessable, cheap or free and has good electrical hookups.

August 11th, 2004, 10:27 AM	#474
Lars Siden Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden, Stockholm Posts: 469	Hi, I'm running Vegas v5.0b and Win XP Pro Eng SP2 - works perfectly! ( Installed the final SP2 3 days ago, have been running the betas and RC:s earlier ). Best regards, Lars Siden

August 11th, 2004, 02:58 PM	#475
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	The groups isn't just for those who live close to DC, but for those that work in and around DC. All are invited. We will have members that live in Fredericksburg and Chantilly.

August 11th, 2004, 02:59 PM	#476
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	In general, unless you really need a feature or fix in new software, don't upgrade. Everyone assumes software development will produce improvements. Just about the only thing you can count on is an increase in the size of the software. New software is a combination of previous bugs and features and new bugs and features. (Personal rant) A prime example is Pinnacle Studio9. It has the same critical bugs of Studio8 (Audio/Video out of sync, lack of project time estimation, rerenders existing MPEG2 files, butt-slow editing performance with more than 15 chapters, etc.), but comes in a shiny new box, with new graphics and "bonus" content, and lots of little things to click on that ask you for your credit card.

August 11th, 2004, 10:21 PM	#477
Chris Thomas Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Burlington ON, Canada Posts: 118	I like the camera movement on the close-up of the flowers while leaving the statue and background stationary. Must have taken some time to perfect. Nice audio, where is it from, and is it royalty free, or dare I ask? I am interested in licensing some decent tracks, but can't seem to find anything worth while at any reasonable price. Just well done, I really enjoyed it.

August 12th, 2004, 08:13 AM	#478
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Dan check out my post here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=30423 I have the Gary Kleiner DVDA2 Training Discs (2 discs)....I'll be putting them for sale as soon as I'm done watching them. If your interested in them as well check back in a few weeks. If you need them ASAP- I'd suggest ordering them from www.VegasTrainingandTools.com

August 12th, 2004, 06:13 PM	#480
Gary Kleiner Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 166	I am not DSE, but can tell you that I have recently done excalty what you are describing: 8 tracks live to the timeline...for three hours. No problem. I used a MOTU 896HD. Gary