Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q3Q4)

Edward Troxel · October 16th, 2004, 07:47 PM

Well I'm not very close to you but you might want to take a look at my newsletters (link under my name). There are also DVD sets made by Douglas Spotted Eagle and Gary Kleiner that shows how to the basic tasks as well.

Russell Newquist · October 16th, 2004, 07:50 PM

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I highly recommend you hook up any TV to your editing system. If you camera/deck supports analog-digital passthrough, set it to convert in the right direction. In Vegas, click on the TV icon. On your TV, set the right input. If you use a S-video connection from camera/deck to TV, also check your footage on the composite connection.

Good advice, but I would add one thing to that. In addition to your normal studio monitor set and a general consumer TV, I would find the cruddiest TV set you can get your hands on. This should be pretty easy (and cheap!), but it should help you a good bit. Your commercial is never going to look good on a cruddy TV, and you shouldn't waste time trying for that, but you'll want to at least make sure that you can get your point across on it. You'd be surprised how many really, really bad TV sets are still being watched.

Edward Troxel · October 16th, 2004, 07:51 PM

Delete the clip on the right and expand to clip on the left to fill the hole.

Or use the "Unsplit Wizard" in Excalibur.

Marcia Janine Galles · October 17th, 2004, 04:45 PM

Just out of curiosity, I've been obsessively zooming in, checking each cut for anything funky, and it dawned on me that I didn't know why, at some cuts, the very small triangles are sometimes dark blue and sometimes light blue. I thought at first that dark blue meant a straight cut, but there are a few light blue ones which are straight cuts as well.

This isn't keeping me up at nights. ;-) I was just wondering.

Marcia

Glen Elliott · October 17th, 2004, 05:18 PM

One has a short fade on either side of the cut- the other doesn't.

Rob Lohman · October 18th, 2004, 06:59 AM

You might want to install SP2? Perhaps this will fix your problems.
Might also be that some packet writing software is causing
troubles, otherwise I'm out of ideas...

Rob Lohman · October 18th, 2004, 07:13 AM

click here for Exact Audio Copy

Albert Rodgers · October 18th, 2004, 11:34 AM

I do appreciate your advice thus far.

I set the broadcast clamp on coinservative and the Magic Bullet on the filmy setting. So far so good. The audio sounds great and peaks and has a hard limiter at -6 dB.

I spoke with a Comcast rep. who is not aware of the standard procedure for the leader. All she said was to have 10 sec. of the color bar followed by a count down. Thats all whe knew. She said just use what is industry standard. (of course she didn't know what that is). So.....

Do the following leader sound reasonable:

10 second color bar with -12 dB or is that 1 mhz tone in Vegas

Countdown (is this really necessary)

10 seconds black

***30 sec. commercial****

30 second black.

Reminder- They will be transferring commercial from mini dv to beta.

Thanks again.

Al Rodgers

Edward Troxel · October 18th, 2004, 11:52 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Albert Rodgers :
Countdown (is this really necessary)

10 seconds black

***30 sec. commercial****

-->>>

Wouldn't the 10 seconds black defeat the purpose of having a countdown?

In all honesty, it is really totally up to the station. We have aired commercials on the local ABC station simply by printing to MiniDV, taking our camera there, and playing back from the camer into their equipment. They did not require tone, color bars, or countdowns. However, each station will be different in what they accept.

Paul Brown · October 18th, 2004, 12:58 PM

You might want to check this thread on the Sony Vegas forum...(I asked the same question...)

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...ssageID=319532

Hope this helps!

Paul.

Ron Guilmette · October 18th, 2004, 12:59 PM

Dito. I contacted a cable station for a project that I am working on and all they wanted was five seconds of black at the head.
They accept mini DV or beta. They also said that the audio levels could be right to zero db. I did'nt feel comfortable with that so -3 or -6 db will be what I use.

They also said that they scope it and adjust levels for broadcast anyway.

Edward Troxel · October 18th, 2004, 01:48 PM

Link to Spot's stuff: http://www.vasst.com
Link to Gary's stuff: http://www.vegastrainingandtools.com

Michael Best · October 18th, 2004, 05:16 PM

I need to put something new at the beginning of a project, how
can I get everything grouped together and move it all to the right? About 11 tracks.

George Sam · October 18th, 2004, 05:27 PM

This is how I do it but I'm sure there must be a better way.

I select the selection tool on the menu then I go down and minimize all the tracks and zoom out as much as I can then just use the select tool to select all.

Experts, correct me if I'm wrong, but if you only want to move all those tracks over, just use the select tool and select all but if you want to group them, that's a different thing as the audio track and video tracks will be synch when you group objects together so that when you expand on the video the audio track will also expand together with that.

Michael Best · October 18th, 2004, 05:34 PM

Hey - thanks for the quick response - that did work.

Most appreciated!

October 16th, 2004, 07:47 PM	#1141
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Well I'm not very close to you but you might want to take a look at my newsletters (link under my name). There are also DVD sets made by Douglas Spotted Eagle and Gary Kleiner that shows how to the basic tasks as well. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 16th, 2004, 07:51 PM	#1143
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Delete the clip on the right and expand to clip on the left to fill the hole. Or use the "Unsplit Wizard" in Excalibur. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 17th, 2004, 04:45 PM	#1144
Marcia Janine Galles Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 340	Blue triangles at cuts in timeline Just out of curiosity, I've been obsessively zooming in, checking each cut for anything funky, and it dawned on me that I didn't know why, at some cuts, the very small triangles are sometimes dark blue and sometimes light blue. I thought at first that dark blue meant a straight cut, but there are a few light blue ones which are straight cuts as well. This isn't keeping me up at nights. ;-) I was just wondering. Marcia

October 18th, 2004, 06:59 AM	#1146
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	You might want to install SP2? Perhaps this will fix your problems. Might also be that some packet writing software is causing troubles, otherwise I'm out of ideas... __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 18th, 2004, 07:13 AM	#1147
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	click here for Exact Audio Copy __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 17th, 2004, 05:18 PM	#1145
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	One has a short fade on either side of the cut- the other doesn't.

October 18th, 2004, 11:34 AM	#1148
Albert Rodgers Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ypsilanti, MI Posts: 87	I do appreciate your advice thus far. I set the broadcast clamp on coinservative and the Magic Bullet on the filmy setting. So far so good. The audio sounds great and peaks and has a hard limiter at -6 dB. I spoke with a Comcast rep. who is not aware of the standard procedure for the leader. All she said was to have 10 sec. of the color bar followed by a count down. Thats all whe knew. She said just use what is industry standard. (of course she didn't know what that is). So..... Do the following leader sound reasonable: 10 second color bar with -12 dB or is that 1 mhz tone in Vegas Countdown (is this really necessary) 10 seconds black *30 sec. commercial** 30 second black. Reminder- They will be transferring commercial from mini dv to beta. Thanks again. Al Rodgers __________________ Jack-of-all-trades trying to master one (Videography) www.sdfvideo.com

October 18th, 2004, 11:52 AM	#1149
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	<<<-- Originally posted by Albert Rodgers : Countdown (is this really necessary) 10 seconds black *30 sec. commercial** -->>> Wouldn't the 10 seconds black defeat the purpose of having a countdown? In all honesty, it is really totally up to the station. We have aired commercials on the local ABC station simply by printing to MiniDV, taking our camera there, and playing back from the camer into their equipment. They did not require tone, color bars, or countdowns. However, each station will be different in what they accept. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 18th, 2004, 12:58 PM	#1150
Paul Brown Tourist Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4	for progressive Pal You might want to check this thread on the Sony Vegas forum...(I asked the same question...) http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...ssageID=319532 Hope this helps! Paul.

October 18th, 2004, 12:59 PM	#1151
Ron Guilmette Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Hope Vally RI Posts: 30	Dito. I contacted a cable station for a project that I am working on and all they wanted was five seconds of black at the head. They accept mini DV or beta. They also said that the audio levels could be right to zero db. I did'nt feel comfortable with that so -3 or -6 db will be what I use. They also said that they scope it and adjust levels for broadcast anyway.

October 18th, 2004, 01:48 PM	#1152
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Link to Spot's stuff: http://www.vasst.com Link to Gary's stuff: http://www.vegastrainingandtools.com __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 18th, 2004, 05:16 PM	#1153
Michael Best Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Oceanside Harbor, CA Posts: 446	Grouping I need to put something new at the beginning of a project, how can I get everything grouped together and move it all to the right? About 11 tracks.

October 18th, 2004, 05:27 PM	#1154
George Sam Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29	This is how I do it but I'm sure there must be a better way. I select the selection tool on the menu then I go down and minimize all the tracks and zoom out as much as I can then just use the select tool to select all. Experts, correct me if I'm wrong, but if you only want to move all those tracks over, just use the select tool and select all but if you want to group them, that's a different thing as the audio track and video tracks will be synch when you group objects together so that when you expand on the video the audio track will also expand together with that.

October 18th, 2004, 05:34 PM	#1155
Michael Best Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Oceanside Harbor, CA Posts: 446	Hey - thanks for the quick response - that did work. Most appreciated!