Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q3Q4)

Marcia Janine Galles · October 22nd, 2004, 06:09 PM

Not dumb at all. I need it for a (hoped for) hand off of my project to a sound house/sound guy. Specs vary widely in terms of length and order, but as a general rule they ask for black, (color) bars and tone (the "tone" part being what I was searching for) and a countdown of some sort (often 1 sec that reads "Picture start" followed by 1 sec each of numbers 8 to 2, with a pop/beep at the two, to verify/sync up picture. After the 2 pop there's usually another 1 sec of black, after which FFOP (first frame of picture) comes up at TC 01:00:08:00. I've also made the highest track on the timeline a timecode track, "burned in" for ease of onscreen verification. And I'll give them an EDL that went from Vegas to EDL Convert Pro, which can turn it into an OMF or ProTools EDL. Of course, as Spot mentioned, if I could find a good local Sound Forge guy that I could just give a veg file to, none of this would be necessary. But the only people I know though use ProTools.

It may all be a moot point anyway as I'm totally out of money, but I want to have it ready to go at a moments notice if I can find a way to swing this. In all honesty, my audio on this doc is better than a lot of docs already released that I've watched of late, but I tend to be a bit of a perfectionist. And the audio on mine makes me crazy. (One clip filmed at a med cntr we dubbed the "Starship Enterprise room"... it really sounds like you're onboard, I swear.) There were just two of us, with very little experience. We did the best we could, but I'd like it to sound a whole lot better. It's such an important story. It deserves the best I can give it.

Take care,
Marcia

Kaku Ito · October 22nd, 2004, 10:21 PM

I'm not much of a Window Savvy and having problem making the FX1 showing up on Video Capture device. Anyone knows what I might be doing wrong?

Kevin Kwak · October 23rd, 2004, 01:13 AM

Hello, I have a copy of Premiere 6.0 and currently looking for After Effects 5.5 to go along with Premiere.

But I was wondering if I should take the Sony Vegas+DVD 2 (student discount) route and learn that software from scratch....

or

continue using Adobe Premiere 6.0 and purchase a copy of After Effects 5.5.

My main concern is, will Vegas 5 do everything Premiere+AE can do? Or must I purchase a third-party plug-in with Vegas 5 to be equivalent (in terms of motion graphics and visual effects) with Premiere+AE?

Randy Stewart · October 23rd, 2004, 02:27 AM

Kevin,
I don't know Permiere but I've heard Spot and others, who know this and other applications, say several times that Vegas 5 and DVDA2 is their choice over all other editors. I've seen Spot demonstrate Vegas 5 to other NLE users and I saw jaws drop and heard audible gasps along with "did you see that" verbal outbursts. Give it a try. You won't be disapointed.
Randy

Rob Lohman · October 23rd, 2004, 04:45 AM

Spot, where is this contest? It was asked in another thread as well:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=25358

Can't seem to find it either...

Rob Lohman · October 23rd, 2004, 05:02 AM

It seems I was wrong in the other thread and Vegas (capture
at least) does not yet support this camera. Which is a bummer.
It sounds like they are working on an update and/or
Vegas5 + CineForm which should be out soon though (from
what I read at their forum).

Edward Troxel · October 23rd, 2004, 06:12 AM

Vegas will not do everything that Premiere + AE can do. However, it CAN do a large portion of it. Vegas has some great compositing abilities but still not quite as many as AE. There ARE some addons which do raise the abilities up to the same level (i.e. Boris Red for example) and AE can also be used in conjunction with Vegas.

So, I guess the big question would be: what AE abilities do you need? Vegas may do what you need on it's own.

Edward Troxel · October 23rd, 2004, 06:15 AM

Rob, look here: http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/he...b_projects.asp

Bill Ravens · October 23rd, 2004, 08:32 AM

ConnectHD already supports Vegas wiith a capture card. The Sony/Vegas team has thrown their support behind BlackMagic Design however.

Yi Fong Yu · October 23rd, 2004, 09:28 AM

i was just reading this month's Sound & Visiong magazine when i noticed the advertisement on p.113. GOOD JOB SONY!!!

and now the rest of the world will gain more respect for vegas. the ad also states that the packages are being sold @best buy , compusa, circuit city.

Edward Troxel · October 23rd, 2004, 09:57 AM

The product being sold at those outlets is the "Movie Studio" version - not the full version of those products.

Yi Fong Yu · October 23rd, 2004, 12:34 PM

but still, @least there is ads on these things! i mean for the longest time vegas was the most under-represented product on the market... now that is about to change.

Monte Casey · October 23rd, 2004, 01:05 PM

FYI: Your login process seems to be non functional, i tried a few times yesterday, and today...

I too would like to know of this contest

Richard Alvarez · October 23rd, 2004, 01:19 PM

I wouldn't count on it changing by much. I was reading up on Sony's high-end hidef editing system ... the Xpri I believe it is called. Very impressive system, designed to go head to head with the high end Avid systems. (And costing big bucks.) My guess is that Sony will find itself in the same conundrum as Avid. Why migrate high end aspects of their software down to the low end... when you can sell it at a higher price/profit margin in the high end?

Watch and wait.

Dwight Flynn · October 23rd, 2004, 06:51 PM

Edward has a free vegas 5 plugin or script (I think) for converting to 24 frames in vegas (I believe it also creates a filmic look). Does anyone know what it is called and where I can find it?

Thanks

October 22nd, 2004, 10:21 PM	#1232
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	Having problem connecting FX1 to Vegas Video Capture I'm not much of a Window Savvy and having problem making the FX1 showing up on Video Capture device. Anyone knows what I might be doing wrong?

October 23rd, 2004, 01:13 AM	#1233
Kevin Kwak Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 91	Vegas 5 Equivalent to Premiere+Adobe After Effects Hello, I have a copy of Premiere 6.0 and currently looking for After Effects 5.5 to go along with Premiere. But I was wondering if I should take the Sony Vegas+DVD 2 (student discount) route and learn that software from scratch.... or continue using Adobe Premiere 6.0 and purchase a copy of After Effects 5.5. My main concern is, will Vegas 5 do everything Premiere+AE can do? Or must I purchase a third-party plug-in with Vegas 5 to be equivalent (in terms of motion graphics and visual effects) with Premiere+AE?

October 23rd, 2004, 04:45 AM	#1235
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Spot, where is this contest? It was asked in another thread as well: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=25358 Can't seem to find it either... __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 23rd, 2004, 05:02 AM	#1236
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	It seems I was wrong in the other thread and Vegas (capture at least) does not yet support this camera. Which is a bummer. It sounds like they are working on an update and/or Vegas5 + CineForm which should be out soon though (from what I read at their forum). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 23rd, 2004, 06:12 AM	#1237
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Vegas will not do everything that Premiere + AE can do. However, it CAN do a large portion of it. Vegas has some great compositing abilities but still not quite as many as AE. There ARE some addons which do raise the abilities up to the same level (i.e. Boris Red for example) and AE can also be used in conjunction with Vegas. So, I guess the big question would be: what AE abilities do you need? Vegas may do what you need on it's own. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 22nd, 2004, 06:09 PM	#1231
Marcia Janine Galles Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 340	Not dumb at all. I need it for a (hoped for) hand off of my project to a sound house/sound guy. Specs vary widely in terms of length and order, but as a general rule they ask for black, (color) bars and tone (the "tone" part being what I was searching for) and a countdown of some sort (often 1 sec that reads "Picture start" followed by 1 sec each of numbers 8 to 2, with a pop/beep at the two, to verify/sync up picture. After the 2 pop there's usually another 1 sec of black, after which FFOP (first frame of picture) comes up at TC 01:00:08:00. I've also made the highest track on the timeline a timecode track, "burned in" for ease of onscreen verification. And I'll give them an EDL that went from Vegas to EDL Convert Pro, which can turn it into an OMF or ProTools EDL. Of course, as Spot mentioned, if I could find a good local Sound Forge guy that I could just give a veg file to, none of this would be necessary. But the only people I know though use ProTools. It may all be a moot point anyway as I'm totally out of money, but I want to have it ready to go at a moments notice if I can find a way to swing this. In all honesty, my audio on this doc is better than a lot of docs already released that I've watched of late, but I tend to be a bit of a perfectionist. And the audio on mine makes me crazy. (One clip filmed at a med cntr we dubbed the "Starship Enterprise room"... it really sounds like you're onboard, I swear.) There were just two of us, with very little experience. We did the best we could, but I'd like it to sound a whole lot better. It's such an important story. It deserves the best I can give it. Take care, Marcia

October 23rd, 2004, 02:27 AM	#1234
Randy Stewart Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hooper, UT Posts: 177	Kevin, I don't know Permiere but I've heard Spot and others, who know this and other applications, say several times that Vegas 5 and DVDA2 is their choice over all other editors. I've seen Spot demonstrate Vegas 5 to other NLE users and I saw jaws drop and heard audible gasps along with "did you see that" verbal outbursts. Give it a try. You won't be disapointed. Randy

October 23rd, 2004, 06:15 AM	#1238
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Rob, look here: http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/he...b_projects.asp __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 23rd, 2004, 08:32 AM	#1239
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	ConnectHD already supports Vegas wiith a capture card. The Sony/Vegas team has thrown their support behind BlackMagic Design however.

October 23rd, 2004, 09:28 AM	#1240
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	Sony has started mass advertising Vegas5, Acid and Sound Forge. i was just reading this month's Sound & Visiong magazine when i noticed the advertisement on p.113. GOOD JOB SONY!!! and now the rest of the world will gain more respect for vegas. the ad also states that the packages are being sold @best buy , compusa, circuit city. __________________ bow wow wow

October 23rd, 2004, 09:57 AM	#1241
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The product being sold at those outlets is the "Movie Studio" version - not the full version of those products. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 23rd, 2004, 12:34 PM	#1242
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	but still, @least there is ads on these things! i mean for the longest time vegas was the most under-represented product on the market... now that is about to change. __________________ bow wow wow

October 23rd, 2004, 01:05 PM	#1243
Monte Casey New Boot Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: MPLS MN Posts: 10	FYI: Your login process seems to be non functional, i tried a few times yesterday, and today... I too would like to know of this contest

October 23rd, 2004, 01:19 PM	#1244
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	I wouldn't count on it changing by much. I was reading up on Sony's high-end hidef editing system ... the Xpri I believe it is called. Very impressive system, designed to go head to head with the high end Avid systems. (And costing big bucks.) My guess is that Sony will find itself in the same conundrum as Avid. Why migrate high end aspects of their software down to the low end... when you can sell it at a higher price/profit margin in the high end? Watch and wait.

October 23rd, 2004, 06:51 PM	#1245
Dwight Flynn Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 393	Edward Troxel and 24 frame conversion Edward has a free vegas 5 plugin or script (I think) for converting to 24 frames in vegas (I believe it also creates a filmic look). Does anyone know what it is called and where I can find it? Thanks