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Seref Halulu October 6th, 2011 02:16 PM

Re: 3D's success, your current opinions please.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Stanislav (Post 1680915)
Yes, it does.

I was actually meaning to give an example of that but was distracted before saying everything. Namely, recently I bought a 3D BD about ancient Egypt. It was shot for IMAX with its huge screen. As a result, on my 3D monitor it all looked like miniatures. Clearly they used a wider interocular distance for it to look great on a 20 foot tall screen. And that made it truly horrible on a small monitor.

That film should have never been released on Blu-ray and should have only been shown in IMAX theaters!

That is why I have been saying that 3D needs to be shot with three lenses, one on the left, one on the right, one a certain distance between them, about one third the distance from the left lens and 2/3 from the right lens, so you get three different possible outputs:

1. For a huge screen showing the left view shot by the left lens, the right view by the right lens;

2. For a medium screen showing the left view shot by the in-between lens, the right view from the right lens; and

3. For a small screen with the left view from the left lens and the right view from the in-between lens.


Hi Adam.

It seems to me very logical and i liked the idea.

But considering the film is shot with 3 lens, how it is gonna be distributed?
3 Masters of the same film for every suitable screen?

Or any other ideas?

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Adam Stanislav October 6th, 2011 02:50 PM

Re: 3D's success, your current opinions please.
 
You’d have one studio master with three views. From that you would produce a separate distribution master for IMAX, with two appropriate views, a different distribution master for regular cinema screen, with two different views, and a third distribution master for BD, with two proper views.

So, in each case you would distribute just two of the three views.

Bruce Watson October 7th, 2011 09:21 AM

Re: 3D's success, your current opinions please.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Parrish (Post 1673626)
1. If you own a 3d display or visit theaters, how often do you rent/buy/seek 3d media and do you find any problems, eye strain, quality, etc.

Never. Gives me headaches. Don't like the desaturation or lower luminance seen at the theaters either. And I should pay extra for this? I don't think so.

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Originally Posted by Don Parrish (Post 1673626)
Do you Like 3D? Have you stopped using 3D as much since you first purchased your Display/T.V?

I don't really. I find it distracting. A big 3D effect pulls me right out of my suspension of disbelief. If it's not helping tell the story, why is it there?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Parrish (Post 1673626)
2. If purchasing new gear how important would 3D capabilities be?

For me it would be important that there not be any 3D capabilities. No point paying for something I'm not likely ever going to use.

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Originally Posted by Don Parrish (Post 1673626)
3. For those that shoot for a living, how often do you get request for 3D?

I never have.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Parrish (Post 1673626)
4. Any problems shooting / editing 3D?

Don't know, never tried due to lack of interest on my part and on customers' part.

Seref Halulu October 7th, 2011 01:48 PM

Re: 3D's success, your current opinions please.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Stanislav (Post 1686892)
You’d have one studio master with three views. From that you would produce a separate distribution master for IMAX, with two appropriate views, a different distribution master for regular cinema screen, with two different views, and a third distribution master for BD, with two proper views.

So, in each case you would distribute just two of the three views.

This is what i was trying to say.
There should be 3 different distribution masters including two views as a combination of the shots taken by two of three lenses.

Adam Stanislav October 7th, 2011 05:01 PM

Re: 3D's success, your current opinions please.
 
Yes. That’s it.

Carlton Bright October 8th, 2011 07:04 AM

Re: 3D's success, your current opinions please.
 
As the "Cloud" concept becomes more sophisticated and capable, the actual movie theaters could use software that could download the appropriate version.
And to even go further with the idea, the software could incorporate the screen distance and
dimensions of the theater itself, to make a customized version of the movie for projection.

Come to think of it, and to be easier, theaters could send their information to the distributer, and have a movie with the 3D specs, "custom made",
then downloaded from the "cloud".

Prech Marton October 8th, 2011 07:11 AM

Re: 3D's success, your current opinions please.
 
"And we look at it the same way we do with 3D cinema: Using a left view and a right view, one for each eye."

Hmm, not exactly. I real life we are focusing to different depth, but in cinema always to the screen plane. This is a huge difference, and often result in headache.. Another thing and conflict in brain is that in real life we feel the movement also with our body, but in cinema you sit in the chair and don't move.
That result sickness sometimes. And 3D just need more fps than 24. Especially on a big screen like Imax.
Is this enough reason for 3D cinema is NOT like 3D viewing in real life?..


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