Looks like someone something we don't. They said one very very big PRO feature, is that it not only runs on 64bit VISTA, but allocates 4 GB RAM to EACH program running under it while doing that.

If that is true, it would be a very big deal indeed. Especially in a production environment.

Some of the other updates are pretty heavyweight too, like to Dynamic Link, full blending modes and 3D enhancements.

Don't write this one off too soon, you may have to swallow your criticisms later, PLUS pay the extra $200 for the update after the end of Feb!

I'm certainly no Adobe evangelist, but this one looks pretty serious and I've been doing this video update dance for a long time. We'll cough up $$ for one of our 64bit systems to try it, just so we keep our irons hot and still in the fire.

Hopefully we'll see that money well spent. You can bet we'll update the other systems if there's real gain for that $$ pain.

Tripp, just wondering why you said CF bit padding to 10bit from your HDV's 8 bit throws away info above 100 IRE? Do you know that for a fact?

Seems to me we've had to pull down to 100 IRE from our V1 tapes at times when CF'ing from tape (up to 1920x1080p).

Waiting on working-world reviews first. My work is HDV heavy so I need to know if it's more reliable than CS3. Here's hoping, because I love the Adobe workflow, and I especially love it being available on the Mac. There are just so many hoops you have to go through now (but hey, at least there aren't as many hoops as Media Composer).

Regarding reliability, I have had major problems with the first patches that came out for premiere cs3 and i only could get it to work without a crash with a standard install, once I applied a patch I experienced one crash after the other with everything I did since the last autosave dissapeared. Only the latest patch they have made available seems to do the trick, since then (knock on wood) no crashes anymore. Also encore cs3 has handled all my projects (not blu-ray) without a problem.
So I don't see a reason to upgrade now.

Stephen... I was using Aspect and maybe I had something set up wrong. Yes, I know this for a fact because I viewed the files' waveforms in a CF project when color correcting it and there was nothing above 100 IRE. Perhaps you're using Prospect?

Question for David T. or N. on IRE levels f/ CF HDV material
 

Yes, Tripp, we are using both Premiere HD and 4K. I checked this out with my color man, as he does everything in AE before we import into PP and you are very right!

If you don't do the lumi level adjust BEFORE Cineforming it, the info in that "above 100IRE area is lost. It doesn't seem to really clip it exactly, but compresses it beyond any further usefulness.

This is a very good point to ask about! Let's do it!

David Taylor and/or David Newman, does CF toss out "above 100 IRE" lumi info? Since it does seem to do that in the quick testing we just did, is there any way programatically for you to allow the user to set those levels at capture in HDLink, so we can do the curves ourselves, instead of automatically saying goodbye to a marginal, but maybe important clip due to lack of user control in this particular area?

Since it seems to do this at conversion, can you make it so we can chose a higher level if desired, say for a clip with blown out sky, snow scenes or water?

If the choice is between smaller, faster, as opposed to including any and all lumi data, we would certainly choose the latter.

Now that we've well and truly hijacked this thread (sorry about that), you should post this question in the Cineform forum.

Sorry for the hijack! I posted it in Cineform...

I consider myself lucky, I'm not having any issues with CS3. Simply loving it and I can break anything, usually do but I don't have the issues with it as some other do. My only concern is upgrading and my plugins no longer are supported. CS3 pretty much will do more than I could ask and I could spend years more with it and still be learning about it.

A new interface doesn't matter to me, that would be like my wife getting a nose job (not going to change how I feel about her). I just don't see anything to make me want to risk the stability I have now. Guess I'll have to wait and see how it performs for others for a year or so.

For now I'm happy with what I have in CS3.

For those considering upgrading to CS4... NAAP has a 15% coupon ....

That coupon paid for my membership to NAAP for another year :-)

Plus, Adobe says for limited time at this moment $200 discount on Suite...

The thought of a discount had me going for a sec. The up to $200 discount is good only on CSx other than CS3 and Macromedia Studio. No love for the CS3 users.

Here's the price break down.... might help someone here...

Adobe - Creative Suite 4 Production Premium: Upgrade eligibility

and don't forget to get the 15% coupon discount

does the new "replace" thing mean proxies?
i cant believe premiere doesnt have a good proxy workflow already.
and whats the deal with not being able to change projects settings once they are set?

After finding the only thing I use in CS3 is PP and Encore (I have PS CS2 which is fine by me) I'm thinking of the UPGRADE to just PP/Encore. Adobe site claims I can do so from CS3 for $299.

But how does it actually work?

Do I have to have CS3 on my machine during upgrade?

Or do I just need the SN.

Can I remove CS3 from computer after the upgrade?

When I register PP CS4 -- what happens to my CS3 SUITE? Can I use it on another computer? Or, can I use everything but PP/Encore CS3 on another computer? Or, does everything in the CS3 Suite go dead?

Seems odd that after actually paying for the full CS3 SUITE and paying for PP CS -- my investment in CS3 SUITE is lost.