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Pete Bauer January 11th, 2005 05:38 PM

There's a section in the PPro manual / help that goes into a little more detail, but basically just have XP, PPro, and you project files on your C Drive and use a separate drive (ie, D Drive) for capture and scratch files. Regular defragging and not letting them get close to full does make a difference.

Pete Bauer January 11th, 2005 05:50 PM

Although good news for those who do HDV, a disappointment for those of us hoping for SD enhancements and bug fixes. It does turn out to be only an HDV plug-in. It no longer shows up in the PPro downloads area as an update. You have to register to be notified by email when the NOT YET AVAILABLE HDV plugin actually is released:

http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/reghd.html

Ah, well. Patience is said to be a virtue...not that I believe it!

Pete Bauer January 11th, 2005 05:55 PM

Yeah, here's the latest:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=37606

Sigh...

Ronald Lee January 11th, 2005 08:24 PM

Capturing two audio channels for editing in Premiere?
 
Is there a way with Premiere 6.5 or the Sony DVgate program (which is what I usually use to capture) to pull both channels of audio off a miniDV capture?

I did some recording over the weekend, with both channels on one source, but at different levels, or with two different sources going into each channel and I want to be able to adjust the level of each channel independently in Premiere.

The second audio track isn't hidden on the stereo AVI file and we just can see it, right? Sorry, I'm not really an editor, but I've got some big projects which I would Like to edit Myself.

Is it easy to synch the second audio track (the wave file) to the video in Premiere 6.5 if I capture with Scenalyzer?

Brandon Greenlee January 11th, 2005 09:47 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Pete Bauer : There's a section in the PPro manual / help that goes into a little more detail, but basically just have XP, PPro, and you project files on your C Drive and use a separate drive (ie, D Drive) for capture and scratch files. Regular defragging and not letting them get close to full does make a difference. -->>>

I agree with this completely. I did this and it did help the 'snappy-ness' of premiere. However, my processor being as slow as it is, it did not allow me to do any more realtime things within premiere, as these are not hampered by hard drive accessibility.

I guess the only thing to really do is push your processor and ram to the absolute maximums available or buyable with your budget.

--Which is about nowhere with my budget. ;) --

Peter Jefferson January 12th, 2005 02:00 AM

anyone???

Ed Smith January 13th, 2005 01:02 PM

Hi Peter,

I have not really played around with 5.1 in Premiere. But I think that all the audio panning and mixing of 5.1 tracks is done via the audio mixer, and not done in the timeline.

Try looking in the help file. Search for 5.1 and there is a chapter about applying pan or balance settings that will help you.

I hope to work with 5.1 in the future, but as yet I have not needed to use it.

Hope this helps a little.

Thomas Fraser January 13th, 2005 08:51 PM

computer to match Priemiere Pro
 
I am getting a new computer and I just also bought Premiere Pro 1.5. I understand that hyper threathing can cause problems for Premiere Pro?
Should I not get hyper threathing on my new computer?
I am getting 2 G of ram, 3 hard drives @7200 rpm,
128 Meg video card
P4 3.0 cpu
Any suggestions about what is good and bad for running Permiere Pro 1.5

Thank you

Pete Bauer January 13th, 2005 10:11 PM

There's a simple workaround for an SP2 issue:

http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/330380.html

I use a 3.00 GHz P4 with 2GB DDR on an ASUS i875-based motherboard. PPro works very nicely with that hyperthreading system. Renaming a file as outlined in the Adobe document solved the Adobe Media encoder issue for me.

BTW, multiple physical hard drives is a big plus, so you should do well with your system.

Cheers,

Jay Butler January 14th, 2005 01:03 AM

Seriously bad audio problems...desperate
 
Hi. I recently captured some footage and when I play it in adobe, only like the first 2-4 minutes I get audio, then the rest of the footage I don't hear anything. I can play the captured footage on other editing software (demo for vegas...pinnacle) and I can hear it fine, playing it in windows media & quicktime also works fine, it's just when I play it in adobe I get audio for a few minutes then nothing...

Anyone here ever had that problem? What did you do to fix it? I feel like I did everything I could in the preferences-audio and whatnot, I seriously need some help :( , thanks in advance.

Ed Smith January 14th, 2005 03:35 AM

Hi Jay,

What version of Premiere are you using?
What is your system harware/ software specs?

If you are using Premirer 6.5 you can try resetting the preferences file. I think its SHIFT+CTRL while opening Premiere to reset everything to default.

If you have Premiere Pro you might need to wait for it to conform the audio.

Cheers,

Peter Jefferson January 14th, 2005 07:09 AM

thanks for that..

im lookin at jumping ship permanently to PremPro with either an RTx100 or Axio soon, and by what ive seen with Prem's 5.1, its seems very tedious.... so i might jsut do the project and do the audio in Vegas... least with a MAtrox i dont have to render for 20 bloody hours..

Jay Butler January 14th, 2005 09:20 AM

I'm using adobe premiere pro... I have a 2.6ghz, P4, 768ram. How do I conform the audio? Is it something it does automatically?

Will Turner January 14th, 2005 11:00 AM

Keep 5.1 when ripping
 
I edit the DVDs I own for private viewing to remove objectionable content and make them family-friendly similar to what commercial vendors like "Cleanflix" do. However, after ripping and converting to AVI using Decryptor, DVDshrink and FlashMpeg and importing into Premiere the 5.1 quality of the audio is reduced to stereo. Can someone advise me how to keep the audio at 5.1?

Pete Bauer January 14th, 2005 07:03 PM

Hi Jay,

Conforming audio happens automatically -- in fact, you can't stop it if you want to, which some people take offense to. You're on the low side for RAM (acceptable, for sure, but on the low side)...it may be that conforming is taking a while for a long clip. As a simple test, try loading up the file in PPro and go do something else for a short while. Then see if the audio is behaving or not.

BTW, file conforming was something Adobe worked on between PPro 1.0 and 1.5. Which version are you using? 1.0 would not let you start working on a file until conforming was complete, whereas 1.5 will let you do it if you want to accept the performance hit of editing while the conforming is going on.

Other stuff to check: best to have scratch disks, including conformed files, on a separate physical hard drive (such as a D Drive) from XP, PPro, and your project files, all of which would normally reside on your C Drive. If your drive is getting full or fragmented, that'll kill performance in PPro. Make sure DMA is enabled for your IDE Channels. Especially since you're on the low side with RAM, make sure no other apps are running. Maybe one of these tips will, uh, tip the balance in your favor. Let us know!

Mike Sun January 14th, 2005 07:11 PM

Audio Problems while editing
 
I recently switched over from Premiere 6.5 to Premiere Pro and one problem I have with it is with the audio.

Bascially while I edit the video and play it on the timeline, the audio is fine. But when I export the finished project and watch it under Windows Media Player, I can hear the static and cracking sounds from the audio.

What I had to do was go back to Premiere and turn the audio down, but this was annoying because I had to turn the audio down, export as a Movie, and watch it under Windows Media to see if the static/cracking noises persisted. If the static noise was still there I had to do the same process. In the end, the audio turns out more quiet than other videos I watch under Windows Media.

Why am I having such problems? I never had it when I used Premiere 6.5. And the origianl audio the camera recorded was not distorted at all.

Any help would be appreciated.

Jay Butler January 14th, 2005 08:43 PM

That might be the problem, when I load up my footage (which is an hour long at 13.2gigs), I usually just can hear the first minute or so...then nothing, then I get pissed and shut Premiere down...that could possibly be the problem. I'll load up Premiere, then my project and let it go overnight, it could possibly work...thanks!

Brandon Greenlee January 14th, 2005 10:27 PM

By the way,

Premiere Pro tells it is conforming with a status bar on the very bottom right hand side. If the video is an hour long I think you could expect a 2-3 minute conforming process. Maybe as much as 5.

Supposedly this conforming allows premiere to create a higher quality audio editing enviroment.

Jay Butler January 15th, 2005 06:34 AM

Yep, that was the problem, thanks guys!

Pete Bauer January 15th, 2005 07:19 AM

Glad to hear it!

I should add that what's happening is any audio that isn't 32-bit quality is conformed to that for use within the program. This is done to give some "overhead" for processing audio and still having high quality output.

PPro saves the conformed audio files in a scratch folder unless it doesn't have the room on disk to do so. As long as it can save the scratch files, it won't have to conform again; if it can't save the files, or you change the location of files, then it will conform again next time you open the original file.

So creating your folder structure as mentioned earlier and leaving everything set up the same way will really go a long way to minimize the pain of conforming audio.

Jay Butler January 15th, 2005 12:14 PM

^^^Thx for the tip.

Ray Sigmond January 15th, 2005 01:15 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Peter Jefferson : thanks for that..

im lookin at jumping ship permanently to PremPro with either an RTx100 or Axio soon, and by what ive seen with Prem's 5.1, its seems very tedious.... so i might jsut do the project and do the audio in Vegas... least with a MAtrox i dont have to render for 20 bloody hours.. -->>>

Peter, why are you looking to jump ship on Vegas?

Peter Jefferson January 15th, 2005 08:07 PM

rendering mainly.. no other reason really.. Vegas is probably one of, if not THE most advanced software tools out there.. when compared to Prem on its own.. i can work 3 times faster.. then i get hit in the head with the rendering.. :(

i dont like the idea of having my HDDs, which hold numerous projects at a time, running the risk of a HDD failure. even with a mirrored drive, the risk is just too high

I like the program... hell iof Vegas could be used with a Matrox RTx100, it would be the bees knees.. but i seriously need a realtime option for the kind of work i do.. and 25hr renders just arent an option anymore....

Rick Step January 15th, 2005 08:08 PM

From Ppro to FCP...edl question
 
I'm preediting a documentary on my PC with Preimere Pro. In about a week, I'll need to move over to a Final Cut Pro HD system to do color corrections, tighten up the edit, ect. Moving machines is neccesary.

Is there a way to export an EDL to a file that Final Cut Pro will read and batch capture? What are my options here...whats the best way to do this. Thanks,

Rick

Glenn Chan January 15th, 2005 09:36 PM

If the EDL doesn't work, try Automatic Duck.

http://www.automaticduck.com/

It may or may not translate all the complex parts of the Premiere Pro project to Final Cut, so research that beforehand or stick to simple stuff in Premiere (i.e. cuts and dissolves with placeholder titles).

Ray Sigmond January 15th, 2005 11:29 PM

I have Pinnacle Liquid Edition and Adobe Premiere 6.5. i am purchasing a Panasonic DVX100A and am switching to Vegas. I've downloaded the demo and love the stability and workflow so far.

Peter Jefferson January 16th, 2005 08:17 AM

Editions 5.1 is a joke.. no seriosuly.. ive tested it extensively to se what benefits it offers over any other app (i sell this stuff) i dont like the idea of not seeing my video when creating a surround pan..

even though Liquid is using a licensed encoder, it still doesnt cut it with true to form live work..

VST plugins are good, but i can run VSTs in Vegas with Amulet (a VST to DX adapter)

ive been tryin to get into Prems 5.1, but its pretty useless considering that u cant access this if workin on a matrox rtx100 based project..

Axio seems liek a good system, but i still dotn see any 5.1 support.. im not expecting a hardar DD encoder, but i was expecting at least, audio to go through the soundcards surround mixer.. with an NLE interface (like vegas) and with ASIO driver, latency should be non existant or barely noticable at least..

i wonder when Matrox are gettin off their butts to get AXIO out..
Ive got a stinky old digisuite here waiting to be upgraded..

Ed Smith January 16th, 2005 09:07 AM

"i wonder when Matrox are gettin off their butts to get AXIO out.. "

The word on the street is pretty soon! They said at IBC that it should arrive in the first quarter of 2005. However what matrox say sometimes should be taken with a pinch of salt...

Its a shame that Matrox did not write any drivers for the digisuite range to run PP. But the good thing is that when AXIO is released you should get a pretty good discount if you have a digisuite card!

Cheers,

Ed Smith January 16th, 2005 09:10 AM

Premiere Pro should be able to export pretty much any industry standard edl list, and FCP should be able to read them.

I would do some research. First find out what FCP can acccept and then see if PP can write to those files.

Rob Yannetta January 17th, 2005 02:42 PM

Plugins for Premiere 6.5?
 
Are there any plugins for Premiere 6.5?

Are these plugins for free or fee based?

Adam Brennan January 17th, 2005 09:18 PM

are there any good plug in's for adobe premiere 7?
 
Is there any plug ins like they have for the adobe premiere 6.5 for premiere 7? There seems to be a slew of plug ins for 6.5 but not for 7?

Thanks...what I am looking for is some effects like the following for 7.

1. soften white accents
2. portraits type blur
3. White or color reference ghosting effects

I guess video effects for weddings and family albums...

thanks.

Adam Brennan January 17th, 2005 09:19 PM

Which is better to use?
 
Is premiere 6.5 or 7 better? I like 6.5 because the work flow seems to be easier to use. Only problem is that adobe premiere 6.5 seems to lock up on me a lot.

Chris Metts January 17th, 2005 09:49 PM

New
 
Hi Mike,

I'm new to this board, (altho i've been reading it for quite awhile)I too have this problem and i go about fixing it in the same way you do. And its true to say its very annoying, if anyone could please tell me how to fix it it would be greatly appreciated! :oD

Thanks,
Chris

Alfred Alonso January 17th, 2005 10:03 PM

Pro 1.5 Playback Settings
 
I have a strange problems and I wonder if anyone else has it and found a solution.

I have an Nvidia Fx5700 ultra card and I'm using the TV-out as a real time preview for premiere using the svideo out to a tv monitor.

I also have a Fx5200 PCI card for a second monitor. Everything works fine except there are times that premiere won't show the output on the monitor.

I've noticed that when the playback settings are set to Direct3d, everything is fine. But when premiere switches itself to GDI, the video overlay out put to the TV doesn't work.

I change the setting to GDI, but nothing happens. When I go back to settings, it shows GDI again.

Anyone have any idea wha't happening and how to fix it?

Thanks,

Alfred

Rob Lohman January 18th, 2005 04:24 AM

That's certainly possible, but will be slower than the other process
I'd say.

I'm curious why you think it doesn't do cropping, seems to be
able to do that on my system.

File -> Batch Conversion/Rename

Tick the "Use advanced options" box and then hit "Set advanced
options" button below it. The first item on that screen is CROP.

Rob Lohman January 18th, 2005 05:24 AM

To the best of my knowledge this is not possible in Prem. The WAV
file is a digital extraction done by Scenalyzer and should match
perfectly to the rest of the files you capture (just snap the beginnings).

In Vegas, for example, I can group the tracks together then so they
always stay together when I move stuff around or cut etc. I don't
know if Premiere has a similar feature to make live a bit easier.

Ronnie Grahn January 18th, 2005 05:27 AM

In my book Premiere Pro 1.5 is the best. Never liked the 6.X versions much.

Rob Lohman January 18th, 2005 05:30 AM

Why not try out a demo of Premiere Pro 1.5 and see for yourself?

There are ofcourse also a lot of other great editing programs out
there if you are still looking for a program that suits you....

Rob Lohman January 18th, 2005 07:08 AM

You will need to convert the AC3 (or dts) to seperate WAV files, a
program like BeSweet (do a Google search) can do this for you.
Then use the Premiere export system to convert it into AC3 again
(when you are going out to DVD).

Rob Lohman January 18th, 2005 10:23 AM

This question is just too broad. There are thousands of plugins for
the Premiere range. I'd say it is the NLE with the most plugins
available. Some are free, most cost money. Do a Google search
on "premiere 6.5 plugin" or plugins, that should yield losts of
results. The big question is what kind of plugins are you looking
for? Perhaps an upgrade to PPro 1.5 might be nice since that
includes extra stuff like color correction tools etc.?


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