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Graeme Sutherland April 23rd, 2012 07:49 AM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
I've just being taking a look into the Creative Cloud, after seeing a news item on it over at the Register.

If the $50 per month for a 12 month contract sticks, then it'll take something like eight or nine years for it to have been cheaper to buy the boxed product, and any intervening upgrades. Or just over four years if you skip them.

As someone who doesn't own any Adobe products (no, I don't have pirate copies installed either), but was looking into buying them, this looks like a good deal. The only risk is that they decide to jack up prices next year...

None of the commentators have picked up on this yet, but the Creative Cloud license allows you to install the software on two machines. If you've got a Mac and a PC then you can install it on both, as it's not tied into a particular OS like the boxed version. As someone who owns a MacBook, and is going to buy a desktop PC soon, this is very attractive.

Ray Bell April 23rd, 2012 08:47 AM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
Just checked the " UPGRADE " price from CS5.... $750... So I'm sitting here asking... will the final output from CS6 be any different than the output from CS5 (CS5.5).. of course the answer is no...

So, it looks like I'm skipping out of this one... by the time I would upgrade to CS6 and spend the time and extra cost for all of the 3rd party plug-in programs that I have it will end up costing me a couple thousand $$$..

I could get a new camera for that...

see ya Adobe...

Greg Fiske April 23rd, 2012 09:09 AM

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Do you have to sign up for the creative cloud when upgrading? I can't figure out how to remove it from my cart?

Andrew Smith April 23rd, 2012 10:46 AM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
They were about to instigate a last version only eligibility for upgrades this time, except that those of us in the Adobe Video Ambassadors group put up a bit of a stink over it. And Adobe listened.

It will be happening from the next version (CS7) onwards. So you may possibly want to upgrade to CS6 after all. Or dip your toe in with the cloud subscription model as you need to.

Andrew

Woody Sanford April 23rd, 2012 01:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Bell (Post 1729038)
Just checked the " UPGRADE " price from CS5.... $750... So I'm sitting here asking... will the final output from CS6 be any different than the output from CS5 (CS5.5).. of course the answer is no...

So, it looks like I'm skipping out of this one... by the time I would upgrade to CS6 and spend the time and extra cost for all of the 3rd party plug-in programs that I have it will end up costing me a couple thousand $$$..

I could get a new camera for that...

see ya Adobe...

I would have to second that. I'll wait for CS7

Thomas Smet April 23rd, 2012 02:08 PM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
You may not get a very good upgrade path when CS7 comes out if you don't have CS6. Adobe may only offer this same price upgrade path for older versions this one time only.

Robert Young April 23rd, 2012 04:46 PM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
Hmmm....
Just looking at the Adobe website- upgrade of Production Premium CS5.5 to Production Premium CS6 is only $375.
Looks like a bargain to me.
I think I paid $600 to go from CS4 to CS5
Actually, CS4 to CS5 was priceless... :)

Steve Kalle April 23rd, 2012 07:41 PM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Bell (Post 1729038)
Just checked the " UPGRADE " price from CS5.... $750... So I'm sitting here asking... will the final output from CS6 be any different than the output from CS5 (CS5.5).. of course the answer is no...

So, it looks like I'm skipping out of this one... by the time I would upgrade to CS6 and spend the time and extra cost for all of the 3rd party plug-in programs that I have it will end up costing me a couple thousand $$$..

I could get a new camera for that...

see ya Adobe...

And who said you must upgrade your plug-ins or pay for them to be upgraded? Nothing of the sort occurred with CS5 to 5.5.

Andrew Stone April 23rd, 2012 10:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Young (Post 1729123)
Hmmm....
Just looking at the Adobe website- upgrade of Production Premium CS5.5 to Production Premium CS6 is only $375.
Looks like a bargain to me.
I think I paid $600 to go from CS4 to CS5
Actually, CS4 to CS5 was priceless... :)

Not denying that it is a good deal; getting cloud services along with ALL of Adobe apps, however, if you purchase CS6 Cloud at announcement time, you will be paying $675 for 18 months of use. Here's the math... You get 12 months at $30 a month and then the next six months are at $50 a month. In other words $360 for the first 12 months and $300 for the next six months. In essence you are getting Master Colleciton with Cloud services for slightly less than the price of the heavily discounted Production Premimum CS5.5 a few months back. It is a deal but it is not $375. for the whole length of time that CS6 will be sold.

Kevin Currie April 23rd, 2012 11:52 PM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
Interesting:
CS5 --> CS6 = $749
BUT
CS5 --> CS5.5 = $399 WITH FREE UPGRADE TO CS6 until May 6!

*Production Premium CS from Adobe.com, US $


My question is, is there a catch? If I go this route, do I have to go through the hassle of installing CS5.5 in order for CS6 to install properly? Or can I buy it to get the deal, and then keep using CS5 until CS6 shows up?

Robert Young April 24th, 2012 12:20 AM

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Usually, to install the Adobe upgrade version (CS6), it is not necessary that the older version actually be installed.
You'll just need to enter the prior version SN/Activation Key when asked.

Kevin Currie April 24th, 2012 12:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Young (Post 1729186)
Usually, to install the Adobe upgrade version (CS6), it is not necessary that the older version actually be installed.
You'll just need to enter the prior version SN/Activation Key when asked.

Thanks! Guess I will go the cheaper route and get 5.5 even though I was planning on skipping it and going to straight to 6.

Alan Craven April 24th, 2012 05:21 AM

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I expect Adobe have a lot of unsold CS5.5 disks to dispose of!

Vincent Oliver April 24th, 2012 05:24 AM

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The Adobe disks work very well for scaring birds, especially in an Apple orchard :-)

Ray Bell April 24th, 2012 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Kalle (Post 1729155)
And who said you must upgrade your plug-ins or pay for them to be upgraded? Nothing of the sort occurred with CS5 to 5.5.


CS5 is when Adobe switched to 64bit only...
that upgrade was murder on all of my plug-ins... still haven't recovered from it all
Premier,After affects and Photo shop... not to mention Hard Ware upgrades to add it all

Pete Bauer April 24th, 2012 11:55 AM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
There's already getting to be a FUD factor here in this thread. Let's keep it factual. Directly from the Adobe site, here are the upgrade prices:

From.....Upgrade price to MC6
MC 5.5......525
PP 5.5.....1049
MC 5.0....1049
PP 5.0.....1049
MC 4.......1399
PP 4........1399
MC 3.x.....1399
PP 3.x......1399

From.....Upgrade Price to Prod Premium
MC 5.5.....375
PP 5.5......375
MC 5.0.....749
PP 5.0......749
MC 4........949
PP 4.........949
MC 3.x......949
PP 3.x.......949

CLOUD
(Equivalent of MC plus the Cloud Apps, immediate updates/upgrades, probable additional apps later in the year...hoping Lightroom 4.x...and 20GB cloud space with automatic synching of CS files):

Introductory offer for existing customers as far back as CS3: 29.99/mo x 12 months = 359.88
49.99/mo x12 months = 599.88 for NEW customers

If you look back at the upgrade costs for the last couple of releases, they stay right in the same ballpark:
A Spring Surprise from Adobe: CS5.5 at DVInfo.net

That's what a massive suite of state of the art production software costs. In particular, I think the Adobe Creative Cloud offer is a pretty good deal. If you don't think so, then you certainly have the option to stick with what you have!

Adam Gold April 24th, 2012 02:39 PM

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On your chart above, does PP mean Production Premium or Premiere Pro? I assume the former.

Pete Bauer April 24th, 2012 05:33 PM

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Yes, Production Premium. And MC means Master Collection.

Dan Tolbertson April 24th, 2012 09:17 PM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
Your chart is missing the best deal going though? Those prices really only affect someone that already has Version 5.5

If you have a previous version then it is a different price to upgrade to CS5.5 and you will get a free update to CS6 when it releases.

It worked for me as I have Production Prem CS5 and I paid $399 (NOT the $749 your chart shows) very sweet deal it seems for everyone if they act before May 6th

So just for the record in the past few upgrades I have never got an upgrade for only $399
CS4 to 5 was $599 as an example.

Pete Bauer April 24th, 2012 09:29 PM

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Good point, Dan. It'll also help those out there with CS2 who would otherwise be left out of the upgrade pricing offers. I heard about the 5.5 - 6.0 free upgrade at NAB and also get ad emails from Videoguys for that same offer (plus/minus a few dollars, good through May 6th) but didn't think about adding that info in my chart.

EDIT: Turns out the 5.5 offer at the Adobe site is kind of buried in the online Adobe Store:

https://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/sto...5&store=OLS-US
https://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/sto...5&store=OLS-US

Dan Tolbertson April 24th, 2012 09:36 PM

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Yes, I almost missed it and even had the cloud version in my cart.I do think the the cloud has some great merit (especially at $29.99 for the first year) and I would have gone that route had I not stumbled onto the upgrade to 5.5 deal

Gary Bettan April 29th, 2012 06:21 PM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
Time is running out. You can purchase production premium cs5.5 today and get a free upgrade to cs6 when it becomes available May 7th.

Your last chance to buy Adobe at today's prices and get a free upgrade to CS6


Adobe CS6 PRODUCTION PREMIUM OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED!

THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO BUY AT TODAY'S PRICES AND SAVE UP TO $1,000!

Buy Adobe® CS 5.5 Production Premium® Before May 6th
and Get the Upgrade to Adobe CS6 Production Premium
FREE as a download direct from Adobe!

Attention Adobe Editors! Now is the time to make sure all of your existing software is up to date. Buy now to take advantage of significant savings and get upgraded to the new Adobe CS6 at no additional cost!

Be among the first to take advantage of the newest Creative Suite software. With this offer, you can implement the current version of Creative Suite immediately, helping your organization increase productivity and take advantage of powerful tools and time-saving features. When CS6 is released, your will be at the front of the line to access the most cutting-edge, feature-rich creative software available―at no additional cost.

Don’t miss this limited-time offer to upgrade at current prices. And if you have CS2 licenses, this is your last chance to upgrade before losing your upgrade eligibility. Hurry! Offer ends May 6th.

All Adobe CS5.5 Production Premium Purchases from Videoguys.com now include two FREE Bonuses! Red Giant Magic Bullet QuickLooks software Plug-in ($89 Value) and a Class On Demand Black Card for 1 free training title (up to $149 value) are yours FREE while supplies last!

Gary

Richard D. George May 1st, 2012 04:58 PM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
I already had CS 5.5 Production Premium, and pre-ordered today for the CS6 version of Production Premium. I am particularly interested in Prelude.

Mike Dulay May 7th, 2012 06:30 AM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
Has anyone else with PAU been able to download CS6 yet? I received an email this morning with my order number and instructions to go to My Orders but was disappointed not to find it in on my account yet. The support person I spoke to got the release dates a bit confused. His reply to me was the product hasn't "shipped" yet so I wouldn't see it in my account. I'm curious if anyone has had their order fulfilled.

Pete Bauer May 7th, 2012 06:49 AM

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Mike, what does PAU stand for?

I seem to remember previously (maybe CS5 or so?) that it took 12-24 hours or thereabouts after the official moment of software release for the downloads to actually become available to me. Not sure the technical reason why. Maybe check back a couple times over the next 24 hours and hopefully all will be well as it was for me. If not, please do let us know what you learn as the problem gets worked.

Justin Molush May 7th, 2012 11:53 AM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
Well, its official, there is now a budget for me to grab CS6 - hopefully Ill be editing with it in the next month. I am really excited to try out the 3D camera tracker tools.

Gary Bettan May 7th, 2012 12:26 PM

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Adobe CS6 Production Premium Available Now!

Videoguys.com is Your Source for CS6 Upgrade Licenses

All CS6 Upgrades are now available as downloadable licenses only and may be requested right here at Videoguys.com. There are several advantages to Adobe Licenses including the ability to download your software for either PC or Mac and have it pre-registered with Adobe.

Call us at 800-323-2325 to place your order or use the REQUEST ESD buttons online to build your order and submit it to Videoguys.com to be reviewed by our sales specialists. Once your order has been accepted your serial number will be sent to you direct from Adobe.

Adobe CS6 Available Now! Videoguys is Your Source for CS6 Upgrade Licenses!

Gary

Mike Dulay May 7th, 2012 09:33 PM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Bauer (Post 1731900)
Mike, what does PAU stand for?

I seem to remember previously (maybe CS5 or so?) that it took 12-24 hours or thereabouts after the official moment of software release for the downloads to actually become available to me. Not sure the technical reason why. Maybe check back a couple times over the next 24 hours and hopefully all will be well as it was for me. If not, please do let us know what you learn as the problem gets worked.

Post Announce Upgrades (PAU). I bought the CS5 to CS5.5 upgrade from Videoguys then filed for the complementary upgrade to CS6. It was approved last Friday and I got the order # reference about an hour after midnight. When I tried logging in to download during the day, the order didn't show under my adobe ID. I just checked now, which is about 23 hours later, no joy yet. Hopefully whatever batch process they have to submit my order to the Adobe website will synch by tomorrow morning.

Kawika Ohumukini May 8th, 2012 06:32 PM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
14 years ago my wife and I had a daughter who now repays our kindness by getting us the CS6 student discount.

Dominic Witherow May 9th, 2012 04:13 AM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
My notification of CS6 upgrade came through this morning, so I went to the Adobe licensing site to upgrade and it was automatically set to send me a dvd, rather than a download. It's a little irritating, but no major problem, as I was led to believe that CS6 upgrades were all to be electronic only. Anyone else experienced this anomaly? I'm upgrading the Master Collection, which might be the reason, though my CS5.5 was a download.

Vincent Oliver May 9th, 2012 10:25 AM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
I downloaded the Master Collection CS5.5 and it took over 12 hours to download - I am on AOL Premium Broadband service, which is supposed to be up to 25MBps, at the moment I get barely 650kbps. AOL answer to this is that they do say it's anything up to 24MBps. I would be more than happy for any software to be supplied on DVDs

Benjamin Maas May 9th, 2012 12:17 PM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
Just dealt with Adobe to get Prod Premium CS6. They are going to mail me DVDs when it all goes through. In my case, I have to hand it to Adobe that they actually stepped up with support. I purchased CS5.5 (as a new copy of the studient and teacher edition) a couple days before the upgrade period started. They granted an exception for me and will be giving me the upgrade.

--Ben

Dominic Witherow May 9th, 2012 03:45 PM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
Well, further to my last post, a few hours after I ordered my upgrade and was informed that the disk would be sent to me, I found my account had been updated with the full CS6 download and serials. 3 hours and over 6GB downloaded later and I have lots of new tools to enjoy.

Adobe are such a refreshing change from the paranoia of Apple!

Mike Dulay May 9th, 2012 07:07 PM

Re: Adobe Announces Production Premium CS6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Dulay (Post 1732037)
Post Announce Upgrades (PAU). I bought the CS5 to CS5.5 upgrade from Videoguys then filed for the complementary upgrade to CS6. It was approved last Friday and I got the order # reference about an hour after midnight. When I tried logging in to download during the day, the order didn't show under my adobe ID. I just checked now, which is about 23 hours later, no joy yet. Hopefully whatever batch process they have to submit my order to the Adobe website will synch by tomorrow morning.

Got an official reply from Adobe, seems I may be waiting until the end of the week for some CS6 goodness.

"This email is in response to your request to get the download link for the complimentary copy of Adobe Production Premium software version 6.0.

We apologize for the delay in response to your request and appreciate your patience in this regard. After checking the details that was uploaded, we found that the complimentary copy of CS 6 Production Premium software was approved on 05/04/2012 that was placed with the order # : XXXXXXX. It usually takes 24 - 48 hours for the download order to be processed, as there are huge back logs on the complimentary copy request it may take an additional of 2 business days to get the download link to reflect under your Adobe account. We apologize for the inconvenience caused in this regard.

Please Note : The CS 6 software started shipping only on 7th of May, due to which you were not able to locate the download link as soon as the order was approved."

Dominic and Vincent, I'm so jealous ...

Kevin Currie May 9th, 2012 09:38 PM

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When I first read that people had already started receiving emails about the upgrade, I was upset I had not received one yet. After a bit of searching, I found the FAQ regarding the complimentary upgrade. (2 separate pages for copies of 5.5 bought from Adobe, and copies bought from resellers) According to it, it could take up to 10 days from the first day of shipping (May 7) to receive the email. It also said that North America and a few other areas would only receive downloadable upgrades, while everywhere else would get DVDs sent to them. (Wish I could remember the links)
So I wait and see...


EDIT: Found the links.
FAQ - Purchase from Adobe
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/p...purchases.html

FAQ - Purchase from reseller
http://helpx.adobe.com/content/help/...purchases.html

Bernard Lau May 10th, 2012 01:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kawika Ohumukini (Post 1732226)
14 years ago my wife and I had a daughter who now repays our kindness by getting us the CS6 student discount.

LOL, the main reason to have kids. Kiddie discounts, yay!

Damn, Premiere CS6 is looking mighty fine. A bit Final Cut Pro X inspired at first glance.
I'll wait to see what you guys think of it first before I upgrade ;-)

Mike Dulay May 17th, 2012 06:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Dulay (Post 1732448)
Please Note : The CS 6 software started shipping only on 7th of May, due to which you were not able to locate the download link as soon as the order was approved."

So 9 days and 3 followups later I get a reply from Adobe that my order was processed and that if I couldn't find the link to contact technical support. Chatted with the support guy who suggested I install the trial release then use the serial in my email. The trial doesn't come with all components and is a temporary measure. I get passed to another agent who reviews it and passes me on to customer support. That was yesterday morning. Added the CS6 serial to my registrations. That night I check My Orders and the link to download is finally there. Not sure if it was "Next Level" that fixed it for me or the act of adding the serial number as there were no follow up notes.

Also learned that I could have ordered actual DVDs from Adobe Sales. Between waiting 9 days and the delayed ESD, maybe the disks would have been faster.

Dan Tolbertson May 17th, 2012 07:40 AM

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Didn't adobe state that it could take up to 10 days to receive your Complimentary upgrade? I barely just got mine also so i just have to wonder why the big to do when it appears they are right on schedule to what the said they would do?


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