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Marco Wagner May 3rd, 2006 11:31 AM

Need 16:9 mask for Premiere Pro 1.5
 
Has anyone made or is there available a 16:9 mask in PP1.5?

I am shooting 4:3 and making a 4:3 project, but would like to letterbox in post in case someone has a 16:9 display.

Ed Smith May 3rd, 2006 11:37 AM

Hi Marco,

try a search on this forum, its appeared a couple of times.

Our very own Rob Lohman has some on his web site, but I can't remember the link. there is also a widescreen matte in title designer but i'm not too sure if its true 16x9.

cheers,

Marco Wagner May 3rd, 2006 12:01 PM

Thanks, I've search a couple times, but am probably not using the right key words, I keep getting discussions of 16:9 only, not many masks.

Steven Gotz May 3rd, 2006 12:20 PM

The titler has a template you can put on top.

Matt DeJonge May 3rd, 2006 12:40 PM

Here's a link to a ZIP file on my site that has several SD mattes in PSD format, including a 16x9:

http://www.chewbode.com/Portals/0/Pr..._Plates_SD.zip

Joshua Provost May 3rd, 2006 01:56 PM

Marco,

You don't necessarily need a matte. You can drop your sequence into a new sequence and put a "Crop" or "Clip" video effect on the whole sequence. I think you need to trim off about 60 pixels or about 12.5% off the top and bottom. I usually call the new sequence "Letterbox" and pop over to it occassionally to preview and ensure my clips are positioned correctly in the letterbox.

Josh

Matt DeJonge May 3rd, 2006 05:29 PM

If you decide to crop or clip the video, these are the SD resolutions you could use, depending on the look you're going for:

720 x 480 = Standard Def (1.33:3)
720 x 350 = Academy Aperture (1.37:1)
720 x 270 = Widescreen TV 16 x 9 (1.78:1)
720 x 259 = Flat/Academy Aperture (1.85:1)
720 x 204 = Scope (2.35:1)

Marco Wagner May 3rd, 2006 06:07 PM

Thanks for the quick responses and solutions folks, much appreciated.

Joshua Provost May 3rd, 2006 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt DeJonge
If you decide to crop or clip the video, these are the SD resolutions you could use, depending on the look you're going for:

720 x 480 = Standard Def (1.33:3)
720 x 350 = Academy Aperture (1.37:1)
720 x 270 = Widescreen TV 16 x 9 (1.78:1)
720 x 259 = Flat/Academy Aperture (1.85:1)
720 x 204 = Scope (2.35:1)

Matt, your numbers are way off, sorry. I don't have the time to work them out perfectly right now, but Academy is going to be closer to 472 tall, Widescreen 364, Flat 350, Scope 275, all 720 wide in 4:3 SD.

Marco Wagner May 10th, 2006 10:46 PM

Hey which of these is best to use. The Widescreen 1.78 mask or the Letterbox Academy 1.37? It seems like the academy 1.37 has much more viewable space, but will some be lost on a widescreen TV "zoom"?

Tom Bolia May 11th, 2006 12:17 AM

I found some of these replies using the key words "convert standard widescreen" in the search. I hope they help. :o)

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...ard+widescreen

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...ard+widescreen

Joshua Provost May 11th, 2006 12:51 PM

Marco,

For widescreen, you want 1.78, that is roughly the ratio of 16:9 HDTV. Academy 1.37 is almost the same as standard 4:3.

Josh

Marco Wagner May 11th, 2006 01:41 PM

Thank you. I am assuming then with the 1.78 a "widescreen zoom" will fill the whole screen, which is what I am looking for.


Thanks Tom, for the links.

Matt DeJonge May 11th, 2006 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua Provost
Matt, your numbers are way off, sorry. I don't have the time to work them out perfectly right now, but Academy is going to be closer to 472 tall, Widescreen 364, Flat 350, Scope 275, all 720 wide in 4:3 SD.

Joshua, you are totally correct! OMG! I guess when you want something done right, you have to do it yourself - I shouldn't have relied on the info I had but calculated it out myself...

Well, I think these are the accurate resolutions (I think the other calculations didn't take 0.9 pixels into consideration). Assuming 640 x 480 is your 0.9, NTSC resolution, your computer pixel aspect ratio (1.0) video would be:

720 x 480 = Standard Def (1.33:3)
720 x 467 = Academy Aperture (1.37:1)
720 x 360 = Widescreen TV 16 x 9 (1.78:1)
720 x 346 = Flat/Academy Aperture (1.85:1)
720 x 272 = Scope (2.35:1)

If DV is 720 x 480, and you "convert" this to 0.9 broadcast aspect, you'd get 648 x 480, right? What's up with that 8-pixel horizontal resolution discrepancy?

Anyway, I guess I'll need to go fix my letterbox mattes now. :(

Joshua Provost May 12th, 2006 11:21 AM

Matt,

Yep, now it looks right. Assuming 4:3 source, cropping down to the various ratios. Would be different for 16:9 source, of course, where you have some flexibility to stick with 720 wide, go to 864 wide, or do something else entirely.

Josh


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