Outdoor recording
Hi,
I am completely new to recording and so i will need quite a bit of help. I would like to record some really amazing animal sounds that I have been hearing from my house at night. My biggest restriction is money. So I am really not looking to spend a lot (as in less then $200). I am looking for something that can record quite sounds from far away, and then allow me to download then to my computer, so that I can listen to them again and again, and eventually play them back to the animal that is making noises, and to a few loca biologists. I am not looking to use a camera, I just want the audio. Thanks in advance for your help! I wanted to add that I will be recording through 100 yards of thick woods or more. i thought about maybe using a wireless Mic, but I didn't think it would work unless it was line of sight or I could hard wire it. I can hear the sounds OK from my house, but they still are quite a ways off. So I will need to get a Mic and something for recording audio (I assume). Thanks!! |
less then 200 eh? Maybe just a handheld recorder and stash it in the woods...
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I often use a cheap consumer DV recorder for stereo audio. Small, light and usually cheaper than a dedicated portable good quality audio recorder
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I tihk Sacha nailed it. Scout the area to find out where the critters are congregating and hide something like a Zoom H2 close by. Set it to record and leave it to retrieve later. |
Hi Peter,
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That sounds like a good idea. Thank you all for the advice! One of the problems is that I don't know exactly where the sounds are, and so that part might take a while to figure out. Another problem with animals though is that they move every night, and I would want to get many different animals in different location from my house.
I want to run one more idea through you first though. Here what I was thinking: I was going to get a digital handheld recorder, and then hook an Omni mic up to that. Then I was going to take an old satellite dish and put the Omi mic facing the inside of the dish, replacing the receiver for the normal signal, so that it would be able to pick up concentrated sound. I figure that satellite dishes are used to pick up signals anyway so they should be able to work for sound also. I heard of someone that did this once with a huge dish he used to carry around on a trailer to record animal sounds, so maybe it will work. Basically I would be creating a parabolic dish. Please let me know what you think, and by all means don't hold anything back! Thanks again. |
The parabolic should work fine, though I think I'd use a cardioid mic capsule at the focus to minimize stray sound from the sides interfereing.
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Omni mic is better. Otherwise you are not listening to the direct sound which is coming from the field. It's a common misconception with dishes that a cardioid would work better but the mic would then have it's back to the action.
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At that distance I would think the phase issue is very small. Sound reflects more like water than light and smudges. It's not like a laser beam. Therefore you are losing level by pointing the mic away.
But since I'm not an expert on the subject.... I'll not labour the point until such a time. Most dishes have omni's though I think... |
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I just got a Zoom H2. The built in mics are really good, and there are four of them for surround sound. It is under $200. Check it out!
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you want to play back to the animals - and have the animals think it's live
forget it - recording devices are built for the very limited range of the human ear. |
Years ago my brother and I saw a NOVA program on PBS about birdsong in which biologists got birds to attack models of birds by playing recordings of bird calls at them. My brother and I thought this was neat so we decided to try and repeat the experiment.
We used a simple battery-powered cassette recorder (it was the 70s) from Radio Shack and the crummy hand-held microphone that came with it. We just sat in our woodsy back yard and waited for a bird to come near enough to record. We played our recordings of the birds back via a 3" speaker, also from Radio Shack, housed in a small wooden box we made with about a 15' - 20' wire lead. We had no trouble getting birds to attack the speaker, just as was shown in the NOVA program. I am sure that any number of the solid-state recorders that are now available ( http://www.sweetwater.com/c860--Flash_Players_Recorders ) would work just fine. |
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