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Dylan Couper March 11th, 2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Micky Hulse (Post 1026079)
Oooooooh, I did not think of that!

I do have an additional G2 that I could use... Great idea Dylan! Thanks! :)

Just don't put the two lav's side by side on the talent where they might "clink" into each other... like I did the first time I double mic'd someone. :)

Guy Cochran March 11th, 2009 01:11 PM

Here's something in the meantime <http://www.realitycrew.com/watch.html>

I'm sure I can get something with a bit more production value uploaded.

Micky Hulse March 14th, 2009 06:21 PM

Hey!

For some reason I did not get a forum e-mail... I am glad I checked back!

Watching vids now! Thanks Guy!!!

Also, checking out your DVeStore now. :)

Keep up the amazing work!

Have a great day!
Cheers,
Micky

Mark Boyer March 14th, 2009 10:08 PM

Is it clothing noise or cable noise?
 
You need to find out if it is cable noise or clothing noise. I use Trams (they provide every accessory for mounting options) or a Countryman lavaliere. There is a special technique for mounting your mic and avoiding clothing noise. Make sure you get enough lead time to run a test with the talent so you can adjust the mounting to their clothing. A excellent book is "Location Audio Simplified".

Chris Swanberg March 14th, 2009 11:35 PM

I second the recommendation. See more at Home. Very useful.

Micky Hulse March 16th, 2009 11:47 AM

Hi Mark and Chris~!

Thanks for the book tip!

$54.95 sounds very reasonable. Adding it to my purchase list. :)

Have an excellent day, and thanks for the replies.

Cheers,
Micky

Jeff Kellam March 16th, 2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Micky Hulse (Post 1024159)
Hello,

...When I watch TV shows (reality/American Idol... yadda), I see the mics are very tight and appear to transmit great audio.

Micky

Micky:

Although I believe the mike will make the biggest difference in sound quality, the reciever and transmitter will also make a big difference in sound quality.

I have a Lectrosonics and Sennheiser G2 system and the sound quality is very different between them.

I doubt any broadcast shows use G2 level equipment.

Micky Hulse March 16th, 2009 11:39 PM

Hi Jeff! Thanks for the reply. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Kellam (Post 1028574)
I doubt any broadcast shows use G2 level equipment.

Good point. :)

Man, I would love to get some on-the-job experience working on a television show!

Anyway, thanks for the clarification and your input. I really appreciate it. :)

Have a great night,
Cheers,
Micky

John Willett March 17th, 2009 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Kellam (Post 1028574)
I doubt any broadcast shows use G2 level equipment.

G2 is used a lot in broadcast - you see them all the time.

Just don't use the supplied tie mic. and change it for something better (eg: MKE 2-ew).

Jimmy Tuffrey March 17th, 2009 01:54 PM

I've seen the G2 on a lot of news reports, even with the supplied ME2 or ME4 mic.
They are fine for short reports but for longer presentations in productions that go through a dub they would not hold up so well. The other end of the spectrum is drama where they would sound bad and very different from a boom. Even with the upgrade to an MKE2.4 gold or similar there will still be no high frequencies or fidelity. The upgraded mic makes a good difference but the radio link is not a great sound.
Seen the Sony plastic diversity system on strictly ballroom a lot amongst other things too. Same thing really. OK for poor sounding shows of which there are many these days. Not much cop for drama.

Micky Hulse March 17th, 2009 02:17 PM

Hi John and Jimmy, thanks for the replies~!

Interesting observations... I am definitely planning on upgrading my lav mic.

Dang, I am anxious to film again... All these tips have been great!

As soon as I upgrade my equipment and/or test the new techniques that I have learned (thanks to all!), I will post back here with my findings and experience.

:)

Have a great day,
Cheers,
Micky

Ed Kukla March 21st, 2009 09:18 PM

The G2 shortfalls are distance and diversity.

The G2 does not have the long range that most Lectros have.
The G2 is not diversity like most Lectros, meaning it has one receiver antenna. Lectro has 2 receiving antennas that can switch instantly to the better signal.

Moat lectros are also 'tighter'. Meaning they use a much narrower band so they are less prone to interference.

Micky Hulse March 22nd, 2009 12:49 AM

Thanks for that info Ed!

Good to know those details... I wish I could afford something with diversity. :(

But, for future buys, I will keep this information in mind.

Have a great night!
Cheers,
Micky

Chris Leone March 23rd, 2009 09:21 PM

G2's on Food Network show 'Chopped'
 
Last year I did sound on that new food network show Chopped and since they only had 350/day for me, including equipment, I used my G2's (with cos-11's). Worked flawlessly and sounded great.

Jeff Kellam March 24th, 2009 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Leone (Post 1032372)
Last year I did sound on that new food network show Chopped and since they only had 350/day for me, including equipment, I used my G2's (with cos-11's). Worked flawlessly and sounded great.

Chris:

What was the audio captured to?

Did you use a mixer(s)?

Did you change batteries daily to be safe?

Did you have any problem with levels or clipping?

Just curious about the details.
Thanks,
Jeff


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