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Brett OBourke March 4th, 2010 02:15 PM

Rode NTG-2 or AT897????
 
Looking for an inexpensive shotgun mic for some on-camera use (Sony EX-3), some boom use. Almost entirely run and gun documentary stuff. Some sit-down interviews, corporate stuff, etc.

These two seem to be the favorites. I don't really know crap about audio.

Is one better than the other? I see the Rode has a 10 yr. warranty (not sure about the AT), which I suppose is useful, though at this price I really only care about which performs better.

Which are you using and how do you like it?

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Paul Digges March 4th, 2010 05:59 PM

I plan on purchasing a Rode here soon. I use one of their NT1A condenser mics for general VO recording, and it's such a great mic.

I'd imagine the NTG2 should be just as above par on sound.

Brett OBourke March 5th, 2010 09:07 AM

Talked to a couple pro sound guys and they had surprisingly good things to say about the Rode NTG-2, especially if it's going to be running off the camera as opposed to a mixer - which we sometimes will do - because the Rode pushes more watts or power or something or other over the AT and thus doesn't have to be cranked up as loud, yeilding less noise.

Found this (DVcreator Location Sound Package 1 at DVcreators.net) great package deal on DVcreator website and, amazingly, placed my order at about 5:45 last night and received shipping confirmation (they are in Arlington, WA) within minutes. According to UPS, the package is on the truck for delivery now (I'm in Miami.)

I don't usually shill, but I do when I get a good price and great customer service.

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Paul Digges March 5th, 2010 09:35 AM

Brett, that actually looks like a pretty awesome price/package. You have any knowledge if that K-tek dead cat is better than Rode's Deluxe one?

Brett OBourke March 5th, 2010 12:55 PM

Paul,

I don't have personal knowledge and didn't really look too far into into it. I kinda figure a dead cat is a dead cat - to some extent anyway - and I know the DVcreators guys test and use all the stuff they sell so I figure it's gotta be a good all-arounder. And with the package deal I save enough dough to by a blimp down the road if I feel like I want/need something more robust.

I'm guessing you could call them or email them and ask why they spec that particular one and get a response. There is a comments thread they seem to respond at the bottom of that page.

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D.J. Ammons March 5th, 2010 05:51 PM

I have a Rode NTG2 I use with my Sony V1U and I love it. I can't compare it with the AT897 as I don't own one of those but I think you would be very happy with the Rode. I also have a Rode Videomic I use with my little Canon HV20 and it is also great.

Roger Shealy March 5th, 2010 07:29 PM

NTG-2 is very nice. Have one and use several others from a friend. Like the option of the battery so I can use it with non-phantom powered devices like the Senn cube or a Zoom.

Allan Black March 6th, 2010 04:57 AM

Take care if you install a battery .. then start powering the NTG-2 with 48V .. and forget about the battery.

Remove it first so it won't leak when it goes flat.

Cheers.

Colin McDonald March 6th, 2010 06:36 AM

It's a good idea to take the battery out as soon as you are finished each session. It goes flat pretty quickly (almost overnight?) There's a thread about this here somewhere.

Roger Shealy March 6th, 2010 07:30 AM

Colin,

I haven't shared the experience of the batteries going flat overnight. I've left in a battery for several weeks and it was still going when I started again (mic not hooked up to anything). I wonder what we're seeing differently?

Gabor Heeres March 6th, 2010 07:57 AM

Rode Boom-Pole Set - Aanbieding/Opruiming

I ordered this kit about half a year ago and used it several times in different situations. Nice kit for the price, the NTG-2 didn't dissapoint me at all.

Allan Black March 6th, 2010 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin McDonald (Post 1495743)
It's a good idea to take the battery out as soon as you are finished each session. It goes flat pretty quickly (almost overnight?) There's a thread about this here somewhere.

Colin no you don't have to take the battery out of an NTG-2 after each session, the mic definately will not flatten the battery overnight.

But don't leave it installed and forget about it.

Cheers.

Colin Rowe March 6th, 2010 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allan Black (Post 1495733)
Take care if you install a battery .. then start powering the NTG-2 with 48V .. and forget about the battery.

Remove it first so it won't leak when it goes flat.

Cheers.

No problem leaving the battery in and using phantom power. The mic senses when 48v is being delivered, and bypasses the battery, and vice verce, when no 48v is being delivered it automatically uses battery power. I have had an Energizer Lithium AA battery in my NTG-2 for 10 months, just checked it on a meter, full power still available.

Allan Black March 6th, 2010 05:03 PM

Hi Colin, Rode have emails from people who've 1 not used a quality battery like you have and 2, forgot about it and left it installed till it did go flat and leaked all over.

That's not the fault of the mic and not covered by its warranty.

Cheers.

Thomas Young March 7th, 2010 07:55 AM

I have the AT897 and Rode NTG-3 and both get the job done. My preference is the Rode brand. Have several of their mics and not disappointed with any of them.

Colin McDonald March 7th, 2010 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allan Black (Post 1495914)
Colin no you don't have to take the battery out of an NTG-2 after each session, the mic definately will not flatten the battery overnight.

But don't leave it installed and forget about it.

Cheers.

OK I'm an old fusspot and am just in the habit of taking batteries out of things if I don't know when they will next be needed. I use my NTG-2 much more on phantom power than batteries anyway - so ignore me.

I was sure I remembered that this came up before but couldn't find the thread until now http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/all-thin...y-battery.html
So my memory isn't completely shot yet! But this was a one off (which I didn't remember) and no other similar problems have been reported here.

I also thought I remembered that the instructions recommended taking them out (they do) but that will almost certainly be to avoid the situation Allan has described.

BTW I had a faulty new Duracell AA recently that leaked almost right away and the plastic coating was damaged too, so I had to clean the battery compartment of a radio scanner.
Now that's the first one encountered out of hundreds of Duracells used over the years so this isn't a big deal, just to say it might be worth keeping an eye on installed batteries. I use a tester anyway to check the cells for my Senny G2 set and all my other toys Digital Battery Tester : Battery Testers : Maplin

Ahmet Toca March 11th, 2010 03:08 PM

I'm also planning to buy ntg-2 very soon.

Want to ask you guys; do I also need a dynamic mic for interviews (like Shure SM63); or can I use ntg-2 for interviews as well?

Gabor Heeres March 11th, 2010 03:12 PM

Ahmet,

Personally I prefer to use my ElektroVoice RE50 as handheld mic for interviews. Though, I think the NTG-2 is able to do the job as well.

Allan Black March 11th, 2010 03:36 PM

It depends on your setup .. handheld interviews .. on camera .. on the street .. 2 or more people?

With a good operator the NTG-2 will work on a boom out over 2 or more people .. but using it handheld is never a good idea. In a 2person interview waving a shotgun at the subject is intimidating and likely to take an eye out.

Cheers.

Colin McDonald March 12th, 2010 04:28 PM

And don't ever wave a shotgun mic about when interviewing a swan - it might break your arm.

:-)

Ahmet Toca March 12th, 2010 04:47 PM

Yeah I agree; it will be quite scary for the people to interview :)

But I think I'm gonna take rode, I think I can use it for multi purposes. if can't; later I may buy dynamic mic too.


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