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Sabyasachi Patra October 10th, 2013 12:41 PM

Tetra Mic from Core Sound
 
Has anyone used this tetra mic from Core sound? Core Sound — TetraMic

How good or bad is the quality? Look forward to hear your views.

Richard Crowley October 13th, 2013 05:58 PM

Re: Tetra Mic from Core Sound
 
There is an extensive discussion about the Tetra Mic (including participation from Len Moskowitz from Core Sound) over on GearSlutz

Tetramic? - Gearslutz.com

Sabyasachi Patra October 27th, 2013 11:07 PM

Re: Tetra Mic from Core Sound
 
Thanks Richard!

That link has got tons of information.

Gary Nattrass October 28th, 2013 03:34 AM

Re: Tetra Mic from Core Sound
 
Basically a copy of the design of the (calrec) soundfield mic: SoundField: The Company

So it should give similar results but at a lot lower cost !

John Willett October 30th, 2013 07:19 AM

Re: Tetra Mic from Core Sound
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Nattrass (Post 1818351)
Basically a copy of the design of the (calrec) soundfield mic: SoundField: The Company

So it should give similar results but at a lot lower cost !

But the Soundfield uses true condenser capsules and the Tetra uses unbalanced electrets.

And there is the new "Brahma" coming soon, which will be even cheaper - looks interesting.

Richard Crowley October 30th, 2013 09:34 AM

Re: Tetra Mic from Core Sound
 
All condenser mic capsules (externally charged AND electret) are "unbalanced" by nature.
And some of the highest-regarded microphones on the planet are electret (e.g. DPA)

Now it is quite possible (probable?) that the Tetra capsules and circuitry are of lower quality than the ones
Calrec uses, but that is likely the case with most any kind of product that is available in several price ranges.

John Willett October 31st, 2013 04:27 AM

Re: Tetra Mic from Core Sound
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Crowley (Post 1818680)
All condenser mic capsules (externally charged AND electret) are "unbalanced" by nature.
And some of the highest-regarded microphones on the planet are electret (e.g. DPA)

Now it is quite possible (probable?) that the Tetra capsules and circuitry are of lower quality than the ones
Calrec uses, but that is likely the case with most any kind of product that is available in several price ranges.

Yes and no.

An RF condenser mic. *is* balanced by nature.

Although an AF condenser is an unbalanced capsule, it is balanced inside the housing of the microphone and exits the microphone as a fully balanced signal.

The Tetramike exits the microphone on an unbalanced cable and is, as far as I am aware, only gets balanced at the XLRs at the end of the cable.

Oh - Calrec have had no involvement with the Soundfield microphone for decades - they sold it to AMS who then sold it to Ken Giles (Soundfield) who retired last year and sold the company to TSL in Marlow.

The Soundfield capsules are OEM supplied by MBHO in Germany, who have a quality equivalent to that of Schoeps.

Rick Reineke October 31st, 2013 10:54 AM

Re: Tetra Mic from Core Sound
 
"T]he Tetramike exits the microphone on an unbalanced cable and is, as far as I am aware, only gets balanced at the XLRs at the end of the cable."
This is the case for most lavaliere mics as well.

John Willett November 2nd, 2013 07:14 AM

Re: Tetra Mic from Core Sound
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Reineke (Post 1818789)
"The Tetramike exits the microphone on an unbalanced cable and is, as far as I am aware, only gets balanced at the XLRs at the end of the cable."

This is the case for most lavaliere mics as well.

Yes - but most professional microphones are fully balanced from the output of the microphone.

It's only consumer microphones and electret tie microphones & headmics that run unbalanced down a cable.

Running unbalanced down a cable increases the risk of RF interference, especially when the cable length gets close to the frequency of the RF interference.

Rick Reineke November 2nd, 2013 09:08 AM

Re: Tetra Mic from Core Sound
 
That's what I was stating. "electret tie microphones (aka, lavalieres) & headmics"
Furthermore, most lavs that have 3 wires, the 'third' wire is for bias current (power).. from a transmitter, in-line battery or XLR Phantom Power adapter.

Richard Crowley November 2nd, 2013 09:13 AM

Re: Tetra Mic from Core Sound
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Willett (Post 1819038)
Yes - but most professional microphones are fully balanced from the output of the microphone.

Note that "the output of the microphone" may not be the microphone head itself.

And some "professional microphones" do not have true differential-balanced output, but are actually single-ended and are just "impedance balanced" with a 5-cent resistor.

Quote:

It's only consumer microphones and electret tie microphones & headmics that run unbalanced down a cable.
Many professional condenser microphones run unbalanced audio between the microphone head and the power supply box where the output transformer is located. A run of unbalanced audio is not an indication of "cheap" or "low-end". The unbalanced audio is typically cathode-follower and relatively low impedance. Modern electret capsules have impedance conversion circuits inside the capsule which is a modern equivalent of that classic circuit design.

Quote:

Running unbalanced down a cable increases the risk of RF interference, especially when the cable length gets close to the frequency of the RF interference.
Not just RF interference. In fact, probably even MORE susceptible to in-band interference.RF interference can be easily filtered, but in-band cannot.


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