Re: Do lavs work at all outside in a city, or not really?
 

He’s been running these mental planning exercises for every aspect of his film for years.

Re: Do lavs work at all outside in a city, or not really?
 

This train of thought is off the rails, in terms of logic and also in terms of grammatical clarity.

Re: Do lavs work at all outside in a city, or not really?
 

That's just Ryan's writing style.

Re: Do lavs work at all outside in a city, or not really?
 

I wonder whether, if he slowed down and wrote rationally, it would help him think rationally. I wonder whether either one is even a possibility.

Re: Do lavs work at all outside in a city, or not really?
 

I'm gonna say that's all symptoms of spectrum.

Re: Do lavs work at all outside in a city, or not really?
 

Oh okay, it's just that I don't want spend money on things I don't need to if possible, so I want to buy the best wind protection to begin with rather than buying a hole bunch of different kinds, and then having to sell the ones that aren't as good, and take a hit if that makes sense. But I can buy which kinds look like the best from those examples.

Re: Do lavs work at all outside in a city, or not really?
 

Do you already have a lav mic?

Do you plan to really use it some day?

If so, buy the foam and the fluffy that the manufacturer recommends for that mic. If you can't afford that expense, do you ever really expect to be doing sound? Maybe you need a cheaper hobby.

And if you really do end up doing sound, you will need to have some minimal kit. One lav mic, one foam, and one fluffy seem like pretty minimal parts of your kit, IMHO.

Maybe I should refocus the question a little bit. Do you enjoy doing sound, do you enjoy playing with sound gear in your spare time? Or do you just enjoy talking about it?

Re: Do lavs work at all outside in a city, or not really?
 

A lav mic is a standard piece of kit for any sound recordist, they usually have at least a pair of them, They will also have at least one radio mic, for one person crews the later can be the only practical way of working on occasions and they commonly have two.

Wind protection will depend on if you wish to have the mic in shot. If not, it'll be your techniques that will provide that by using the methods shown in the videos, Some lav mics come with a small windshield, so you could experiment with combining two methods.





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Re: Do lavs work at all outside in a city, or not really?
 

Buy things you use at least ten times a year, either for work and money generation or for leisure and education. If I won't use something more than ten times I hire. Sadly in the past I've bought so much stuff with as low as one use a year or lower. I have tons of stuff that got used for a project and then has not moved on the shelf for years. This is stupid. As I've got older, I rent more and more.

I also share-buy. I needed some lighting, so asked two other localish people who use lighting what they would find most useful. This way, if I need to borrow some loudspeakers, I know somebody who has ones that will match mine, and my lights will match theirs. This year I have spent by £14,000 on equipment that I have no work for.

ryan, why would you be buying this stuff? Do you already own the lavs, and radio kit? I thought you said you didn't in another post. Why would you spend considerable money on stuff you may never need? We've said before when talking about mics that before you buy, you experiment with home made protection. I'm not going to tell you to BUY wind protection because for your purposes that's plain crazy!

Re: Do lavs work at all outside in a city, or not really?
 

I’m pretty sure he must be planning an outdoor action scene and wants a lav so he can get audio without someone following with a boom. I don’t know why he never simply explains what he wants to do. All of this stuff he talks about I believe is contingent on if he ever gets funded. How many months back was he talking in earnest about what camera should he get.

Re: Do lavs work at all outside in a city, or not really?
 

He's afraid someone will steal his creative ideas.

Re: Do lavs work at all outside in a city, or not really?
 

That’s funny. It’s probably because people usually try to dissuade him from doing something (for good reason), but he wants to do it anyway. All of this comes from having limited experience, not owning said equipment and planning out all the details at the screen play stage.

Unrelated CBS had Raiders of the Lost Ark on last night. The well of souls scene was amusing that almost all the snakes in it weren’t native to Egypt. But still enjoyed it.

Re: Do lavs work at all outside in a city, or not really?
 

After a lifetime in show business, you get to know a lot about snakes.

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Lol
I just love reading bts of great movies. The snake handler shaved his legs to do the close ups for the actress.

Re: Do lavs work at all outside in a city, or not really?
 

That has to hurt, and I can see that would make you inclined to tell Ryan not to do the same thing.

This may boil down to (a.) a definition of "considerable" and (b.) how much one enjoys experimenting.

For example, if Ryan really wanted to get a good feel for how a lav might behave in wind, he could get a Rode Lavalier GO for $79 (if he didn't already have one) and that includes the foam. For another $29 he could buy the Rode MINIFUR-LAV which they make for that mic. So for $110 he could experiment to his heart's content, whenever and wherever he likes. Try different mounting styles, try different fabric clothing, etc. etc. until he either knew a lot or didn't care any more.

Admittedly we don't know whether Ryan has this -- or any -- lav. I simply offer this as an example that the furry would not be terribly expensive, (the cost of dinner at a chain restaurant if any were open these days). The cost of a lower-end mic like this, likewise, is pretty inexpensive. It's such a far cry from your £14,000 that IMHO the word "considerable" doesn't begin to apply to the mic gear. If Ryan never makes a dollar of profit from the mic, so what! And if his dream comes true and he gets funding for some imagined film, then he might even get to use the mic.

So, if I were in Ryan's shoes (assuming he is not destitute) I would just buy the toy and be done with it. And I think an intuitive feel for the issue, gained from experimenting with his own mic, would be quite valuable; if nothing else it would give him a sense of confidence in having arrived at his own answer.

Maybe it's just a matter of individual personality, or personal philosophy.