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Adam Palomer December 19th, 2006 06:17 PM

Shotgun Shorter Than 6"?
 
I'm looking for a short shotgun mic, shorter than 6", either phantom or self powered, to mount on a Canon HV10. What do you recommend for < $300?

Douglas Spotted Eagle December 19th, 2006 06:25 PM

I'm unaware of anything of any quality that is shorter than 6". The AT55 from Audio Technica is less than 6", less than 300.00, and less than anything I'd consider useful.
You can get several cardiods in a small diaphragm for less than 300.00 and less than 6", however.
Can you describe the use of the cam/mic to better make suggestions?

Adam Palomer December 19th, 2006 06:37 PM

It's mostly for run and gun one man shoots, so having some kind of hiss free, good quality ambient sound is essential.

Douglas Spotted Eagle December 19th, 2006 06:46 PM

Coupla things to consider;
Shotguns aren't much good in *most* indoor situations.
Shotguns ignore most sound from sides when they can. They don't "reach out" as the "zoom" switch on some mics might indicate.
A small diaphragm cardiod would likely be your best bet in the majority of situations. It'll ignore what's behind it, but pick up audio in front and to a limited extent, to the sides of it. You'll find it easier to work with in the average run n' gun situation, especially on a small body cam like the HV10.

Adam Palomer December 19th, 2006 07:47 PM

Sounds good. I was looking at the AT Pro37. But, the specs don't look too good, espcially the Open Circuit Sensitivity of -42dB.

How about the AT3031, AT4041, SE-Electronics SE1A or even the Behringer B-5?

Bruce S. Yarock December 19th, 2006 08:09 PM

Am I missing something? Where would you connect a mic on an HV10? I bought one to ue for viewing and capturing my XLH1 footage, but didn't see any mic connection,or head phone jack for that matter.
Bruce S. yarock
www.yarock.com
P.S. You'll need some kind of stabilizer for that tiny camera.

Adam Palomer December 19th, 2006 08:32 PM

There isn't a mic jack. I hacked one by replacing the internal mic with a jack and wiring it directly to the analog-digital converter, bypassing the mic preamp.

Peter Jefferson December 19th, 2006 10:12 PM

Sankem make a nice short shotgun unit, with a very decent shockmout to go with it..

Douglas Spotted Eagle December 19th, 2006 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Jefferson
Sankem make a nice short shotgun unit, with a very decent shockmout to go with it..

For $300.00??

Chuck Fadely December 20th, 2006 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Palomer
There isn't a mic jack. I hacked one by replacing the internal mic with a jack and wiring it directly to the analog-digital converter, bypassing the mic preamp.


We want pix!!!!! How's it work? How do you control volume? What level input does it need?

Adam Palomer December 20th, 2006 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Fadely
How's it work? How do you control volume? What level input does it need?

It's really nothing too fancy. I have a Sound Devices MM-1 feeding a line level signal into a 1/8" jack. The nice thing about the MM-1 is the low noise floor and the fact that it can monitor headphones.

But, the mod isn't finished yet as I still need to enable manual gain control and workout some internal wiring issues.

Ty Ford December 20th, 2006 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Jefferson
Sankem make a nice short shotgun unit, with a very decent shockmout to go with it..

Do you mean Sanken? The Sanken CS3e is a very good short shotgun. It's a lot more than $300.00 I have a review of it on my website in the On Line Archive.

Regards,

Ty Ford

Peter Jefferson December 21st, 2006 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Douglas Spotted Eagle
For $300.00??

DOH!!!!!!!!!

Adam Palomer December 22nd, 2006 10:36 AM

I think I'm just going to go with the Rode Stereo VideoMic. That's a decent mic, isn't?

Ty Ford December 22nd, 2006 09:26 PM

Yes, decent, but it's not a shotgun. That's what you originally said you wanted, right?


Regards,

Ty Ford

Dale Guthormsen December 24th, 2006 11:33 PM

I was not sure if you mean the length of the entire set up of the mic or just the barrell.

Rode makes a shotgun mic and the barrell covered with the foam wind break is 6 inches. However the shock mount and the mic combined is more like 9 inches. the bulk of the weight of this mic is over the camera and would likly work well on the smaller cam. These mics cost about $149.00 u.s. and are surprisingly good.
I used one on my gl2 and it gives good audio, and you can also cut out the heavy base if you like. Here is the site at b&H.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search


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