Oscar, Dan : This condenser Im using together with Nikon FS : http://test.datriware.com/con.jpg, Maxwell Im using as is (primary lens, maxwell, DVcamera). Once again - Maxwell is the way I will go...

Amin......
(and "loose" that "rock" .... so you can run even faster........)

Dan, et al,

(stop me if this question is off topic or a distraction here)

What's your opinion of the static design, or should I say, specifically the image quality of the G35 stuff? I actually met with the G35 designer/owner the other day and the images I saw live through a DVX100 "appeared" to be VERY impressive, and matched what he's posted so far. Just wondering, thanks.

~Shawn

No, is not off topic.
I have a few tests (pics in hi rz) on my site about ststic and in motion GG, brightness comparison and so on. I honestly did not need them and I did not post them there for me. Right? I also made some sugestions for those who want to achieve the best static (see recent wax developments/results thread)
I saw all the pics/clips posted on G35 and micro 35. (I have quite a few myself)
I do however, what I think is best (IMHO) for a film print out.
BTW. My "route" choosing the moving Fresnel was not an accident or one of many options. It was the only logical option (IMO). That other solutions work well, that is true, but there are some limitations (one way or another) that one must be aware of and live with. Well.... I do not like limitations....
What more can I add?

Thanks Dan,

What explicitly do you feel are the limitations or tradeoffs with the static design? (or, please point me to the post where perhaps you already articulated this).

As I don't know specifically what design/technology/approach is inside the G35, I'd like to be able to measure or quantify the static design concerns you speak of to see if they apply here. I'm making an assumption that with the limitations you're referring to, you feel they are inherent and applicable to all static designs?

Thanks!

I do not know either the specific design of G35. If the end result (HD tape? DVD?) can be displayed on a big screen (27"-50") and; while shooting a sharp CU with some lights (soft) in the BG, try and pan/tilt just a bit (hardly moving the camera) and look for grain/pattern. If it shows (on the soft lights in the BG) well.... then you know. If it doesn't is good. BTW, the lights should be a bit underexposed. (obviously if they bloom, not much to see) camera lens 1.4/50 and focus set at close, lights in the BG 20-60 ft away...
Static :
http://dandiaconu.com/gallery/album05/IMGA0163
Motion:
http://dandiaconu.com/gallery/album05/IMGA0164

(well...you get the idea) (The "grain" from the motion pic, may be grain or noise; the still was taken with a 28-200 lens at 5.6 aperture, that being the max aperture on that lens... back then in Jan or so)

On a general note, if one that makes this contraptions does not "look for trouble" somebody else will and than is worse.(just my POV)
Bottom line is what one is prepared to put up with and pay for...... (I guess)

incorrect links.

Thank you... try them now.

perfect, thank you.

Its just wednesday and I can not wait anymore to see the weekend... Im full o ideas, we are preparing brand new oscilating mechanism (based on someONEs kick ;-)) I have to try the night shot too... Never thought it can be done !

Dan: how did you make the screen on beattie from corner to corner ? I've tried set up camera closer and farther, I found the longer distance the better image is. But If I zoom on it, its getting worse again. If I get everything right, you are using just primary lens, GG (beattie) and camera. No macros, no condensers...

About the G35 i have not seen any quality footage or screenshot. So I do not know either. But micro35 seems soft to me...

Daves, derz a sweet spot somewhere along the zoom lens (but you have to find it cuz I do not know your camera) and check you mail more often.

Damn, damn, damn !!!

Im checking my mail everyday... but... Im getting tons of spam, so I usually take all 100 english written messages and drop it every day... Appologies, but your was probably one of them... Can you PLEASE (please excuse...) resend me all you posted to me ??? So sorry, so angry to myself... pitty spam...

:'-(

The email I send does not show here, so... it may be my fault.
Get the camera close to GG and then zoom-in (a bit)
Anyway... my son will be there (Prague) in a day or two singing at the cathedral... if you have a few hours, maybe you stop on by and give him a short city tour (if you can) His name is Andrei. If you can, I'll pass you the day, hour and place where they'll be.

No problem, lets discuss it offline, by email... I'll pay attention this time ! ;-)

Looks like my emails take a "de-tour" to reach destination... I have registered on your site and sent you a message. I am not sure though for is all in Czech....
How do I get to send a message on your site (like we do it here)?

Looks like my emails take a "de-tour" to reach destination... I have registered on your site and sent you a message. I am not sure though for is all in Czech....How do I get to send a message on your site (like we do it here)?

Ot:
 

Yeah, I saw it... And I got the message, I reply to you :) Just login again and read... In right column you will see "NEW MESSAGE". Missing time to translate all to English, but would like...

Here you go!
www.guerilla35.com/newdemo.html
www.guerilla35.com/XL2.html
www.guerilla35.com/UncleJeff.html
www.guerilla35.com/Z1.html

If you are still interested i can give you links to some MPEG2 footage.

Jonathan Houser
www.guerilla35.com

I'm sure Jonathan won't tell us, although this board is 99% about sharing ideas, what do we think about those beautiful g35 images...is it wax? I hope so.
Daves, was that image with the enlargements you posted with an oscillating GG?

Yes, its moving between two points... Unusable, but good for experience...

http://web.datriware.com/files/244_motiontest.avi
http://web.datriware.com/files/245_motiontest.avi

and the best one:
http://web.datriware.com/files/246_motiontest.avi

Motion GG, Primary lens Takumar at 200mm F4, 5PM cloudy
Camera setup : manual Shutter 1/50, manual Focus, Iris Auto, WB Auto

http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p1058.jpg

Daves,
I can not say in words how much I like it! You are the first one (I know of) to reproduce the moving Fresnel.
If instead of the "hard mount" you have now you would use some rubber, you might end up with less than linear motion (elliptical) which would be better. At least the movement is PLANE !!!! and this is a huge plus.
Very good.

Thank you... this shots are from old version of mechanism I made last weekend. You know it... its working (some way), but it can not be used :/ because of many problems...

This time we are working on new one, circular, producing less vibration, less noise, certain running... We have first assembly done, but the motor axle is wrong set up and we have some Z axis movement. Hope we fix it soon.

Looks like monolog, but I'm so happy our next motion mechanism is working :)
Hope it will work with GG attached and will be able to post some video...

http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p1059.jpg
http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p1061.jpg

Maybe does not look, but its calibrated so if you hold it in hand, you almost do not feel any vibrations. Also the noise is just the noise of motor...

I feel like running away when I see that first image, you didn't get injured I hope?
It's very hard to tell from the images what it is, or how it works. Is it noisy?

At the beginning there was a dream. It turned into an idea, then the ambition and hard work turned the idea into reality....

Hey Dan, when you said 'I can not say in words how much I like it! You are the first one (I know of) to reproduce the moving Fresnel.' - do you mean besides yourself? It was a little confusing to me what you meant by that statement! I thought you were using a Beattie/Maxwell focusing screen (or maybe they are the same thing?)

Truck=Fresnel (a certain type of car/screen....)
Ford = Beattie /Maxwell (the brand)

lol, its true. You can get serious injure if you put you fingers to close...
Its calibrated, so when you hold it in hand, you feel just very small vibrations. The part moving in eccentric circle is very light. Hope with attached GG it will be under 20g. The noise is little bit more then the noise of motor.
In fact we didnt attach GG to it yet, but seems to be working. I will complete it and test it tonight.

I hope this time we are REALLY there :)

Daves,
Please go to your control panel and enable the email, so I can email you from here. Is just difficult to send you messages on your site (and I forgot the password)
BTW, this mechanism... is it cheap on gas? Can you cut trees? (oh well.... you know me.... (;-)<

Consumption is about 6-12/100 (Volts/km) lol, Well - I do not know If I can cut trees, but grass absolutely (rotf). Who cares... Our first mechanism can be used as vibrator for women, this one maybe end up as grass cutter :))) You know... sometimes you are building something and at the end you will find, you are in fact building something else than you thought it is at the begining :)))

Booooooooring monolog, but exciting footage... Based on someones (thanks Dan) kicking video posted before...

http://test.datriware.com/f.wmv

Do not expect anyone to "cheer" you (if you do not share your findings or sell cheap). Mind your own life. You are on the right path.

So... Some footage with new motion system:
http://web.datriware.com/files/258_moviedofmartin.avi

And some midnight footage, as Dan asked for :)
http://web.datriware.com/files/259_nightmotiontest.avi

http://test.datriware.com/1.jpg
http://test.datriware.com/2.jpg
http://test.datriware.com/3.jpg

haaaa lle lu jah, haaaa lle lu jah, H, H, H ...... jah!!

Haaaallleeeeluuujaaaah :))) I'm there !

Circular motion 0.6mm, powered by 3-6V on 50-100mA. Works with shutter 50,100 and 125. On very high speed works even with 1000 well, but I guess the motor will die soon :)

Shooted with Takumar lens, 70-200 F4

Better one image than thousands words... so... check it out...

ITS FANTASTIC :

http://test.datriware.com/motion/f01.jpg
http://test.datriware.com/motion/f02.jpg
http://test.datriware.com/motion/f03.jpg
http://test.datriware.com/motion/f04.jpg
http://test.datriware.com/motion/f05.jpg
http://test.datriware.com/motion/f06.jpg
http://test.datriware.com/motion/f07.jpg
http://test.datriware.com/motion/f08.jpg
http://test.datriware.com/motion/f09.jpg
http://test.datriware.com/motion/f10.jpg
http://test.datriware.com/motion/f11.jpg
http://test.datriware.com/motion/f12.jpg

Amazing detail! Great job, that looks like a winner to me! I don't see any softness in the pics which is a bonus.

Thank you... I'm so happy I cant describe it in words...

;-) There is no softness. so you can not see it :) lol

Daves, congratulations to you both!
Pic f10.jpg really shows how happy one of the Daves is...and so he should be! Great.
So what GG did you finally use? Beattie?