Who knows, the answer to sata just may come to me in a dream - or I'll spend some weeks trying to figure it out next semester.

These people are claiming the PRO HVR-A1 version of that cheap Sony HDV camera mentioned, is three chip, that would make the price make more sense.

http://www.globalmediapro.com/video/...der--1322.html

I posted very recently Sony Japan info in camera HDV thread. I's one chipper with 1920x1080 square pixels, with Bayer filter effective resolution becomes 1440x1080. With digital stabilization it appears camera is using 1440x810 pixels, 25% drop in resolution vertically and horizontally, but maybe I'm wrong. The English translation is bad.

Radek

Yes, I've seen the brochures last night (lets hope that the pictures were from the standard cam) and some pictures from the HC1 (I think). Notice on the power lines in those pictures no bayer problems, but that might be from the 4:2:0 as well. Looking good. The HC1 appears to not quiet achieve the neutral saturation I like, but no idea if it achieves the colour depth I'm looking for, along with 10+bits analogue out. But I don't have pictures for the A1, from the brochure it has a nicer level of saturation, but that could be enhanced for print.

So your certain the A1 is 1 chip, I could not find effective reference to number of chips in brochure?

Just a word of advice Radek, you'll find a number of people in this section of the forum will snob off the idea of this camera based on chip size "alone". Mid sized chips don't worry me too much, as I have effective means to deal with all their shortfalls except S/N.

I've notice that there is a VIA chipset that has video input ports, I don't know any details, they could be component, but it would be interesting to try recording with something like this, and even Cineralla (Linux Pro capture/Edit). Which, apparently, does pure three chip 4:4:4 recording no problems (though I don't know if it has component support and I imagine not for the VIA MB as standard. So it might still be possible to bypass the HDSDI step.

Ohh, yes, Keith, they have just announced the new version of SATA, more things to wrap around our heads. Pity they don't just replace all these interfaces with one interface, could make life a lot easier.

Anyway, lets wait and see.

Wayne,

DVCPRO HD P2 Panasonic uncompressed analog output is either 1080i or 720p, no 1080p. Interesting, isn't it, after all 1080p claims. So 1080p is likely to be interpolated from one of the modes, similarly as CF25 on Sony HDV. Quite shocker. Maybe Canon will be first one to deliver true 1080p under 10,000 USD.

Small HDV Sonys are one chippers. It was announced on beginiing. Camcorderinfo may have some details.

I don't see reason for small Sonys top have inferior picture to FX/Z1, except in low light.

Radek

SataII isn't to worrying, there are ways to translate parallel ata to sata, and sataII is backwards compatible with sata I.

Personally, I'm still pretty amazed at the lack of modes (well, desirable modes anyway) that companies are putting in cameras. The funny thing about all formats for hd (both 720 and 1080 resolutions) is that the number of pixels are exactly the same. Not active pixels, but all the pixels, the datarate still is identically based on 74.25 Mhz for ever HD format. Why do they keep giving us 720p and saying progressive is better than 1080i when there are just as many 1080p modes defined as their is 1080i.

It really means they are holding back, but the worse part of it means that something like an uncompressed recorder becomes less useful since were stuck with half the resolution if we want progressive, but twice the framerate, or the right resolution but interlaced. The funniest thing is that if the sensor can do 1080i@ 60 fields, then it is able to do 1080p @ 30 frames because the sensor still runs the exact same frequency.

are you people aware of this thread?


http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=40387

Interesting.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23788

Looks like VIA is still progressing there low powered processor game.

Keith and Radek, yes I think they are holding back so they can charge more for their production cameras.

Wasn't aware of that thread John. I don't know how complex cineform is, but likely would require a lot of work to make it into a small device or the always unpopular full computer approach would work.

I think the new Via C7's are great processors and would be awesome for certain applications. Personally, I don't have clue how they could be intergrated, its definetly possible. I do see some other uses for the processor, but most of my ideas fall to the general purpose applications.