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Marco Polimeni January 11th, 2006 04:41 AM

Nikon focusing screens Type-D are projected for astronomic photography so they are very bright , the grain is very fine and has no telemeter inside (because in astronomy the subject is allways on infinite and nothing must hide it).
I never tested a D screen but, from a Nikon F manual, I know that using lenses shorter then 135mm the edges of the frame starts to became darker and darker so more the lenses are shorter.
I don't know if this happens only when you use the D screen inside a Nikon viewfinder or also when you use it naked, where you have the choice to increase the distance between the screen and your eye (or your camcorder).
About this I'd like to know more from somebody who has a direct experience.

Jimmy Herdberg January 11th, 2006 11:16 AM

You can order it from europe germany or sweden, it should be a better choice, you have the address here: http://thorlabs.com/Distributors.cfm?PageRef=7

Marco Polimeni January 11th, 2006 11:25 AM

Thanks Jimmy, I've done it this morning.

What about your test ?

Jimmy Herdberg January 11th, 2006 04:24 PM

I will try as fast I can, it's getting dark up here really fast these days so I have to do it on daytime. Maybe tomorrow!

Jimmy Herdberg January 25th, 2006 05:49 PM

Now I have complete my 35mm adapter, check the latest clip at www.kokokaka.com/35mm. The shoot is at night just with a 60w lamp (the version 3 clip)! It cost me about $250 and you can screw all the parts together without any tools or glue. If you seen a better result than this please tell me! If you like this I will put up a tutorial on how to build one.

Joshua Provost January 25th, 2006 06:39 PM

Jimmy,

The footage looks good, but the issue with any static adaptor is going to be graininess of the ground glass. Due to the Flash video (I'm guessing), or any highly compressed web video format, much of the grain will get blurred out, so it's tough to judge. Even a second of raw DV-AVI would be good to get a real sense for the quality.

Josh

Toby Orzano January 26th, 2006 02:43 AM

Looks quite promising, though it would be nice to see raw footage as mentioned in the last post. Good work though!

Simon Fenton January 26th, 2006 08:25 AM

Without a doubt one of the best static designs I've seen yet, great image quality and the black anodized finish looks very pro. It would be great to see a full size frame extract from your footage so we can evaluate the grain.

Jimmy Herdberg January 26th, 2006 03:18 PM

Here is some stills: http://www.kokokaka.com/35mm/stills.htm

Jimmy Herdberg January 26th, 2006 04:13 PM

There is also a raw quicktime clip (20meg). It's no CC or noise reduction, just from the camera.

Simon Fenton January 27th, 2006 05:58 AM

Thanks Jimmy, if there is any grain it's pretty negligible and a small amount probably adds to "the look". I'm happy enough with your design that I've gone ahead & ordered the parts, except I'm going with a Thorlabs 1500 GG and DCX rather than PCX.

For those wanting a microwax screen I'd suggest you contact these guys...
http://www.glasscreen.com/

Ben Winter January 27th, 2006 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Fenton
I'm going with a Thorlabs 1500 GG

From what I remember these have swirls and imperfections, and from my own experience the Optosigma 1500 grit doesn't diffuse enough. You might want to reconsider.

Alan Galbraith January 27th, 2006 02:42 PM

yes, I like it... please put up parts list/tutorial.

if ya dont want to POST it... email it to me.

very interested in building one.

Ben Winter January 27th, 2006 02:55 PM

Don't forget everyone that this static design was created by Richard Mellor, not Jimmy, at this thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=37296

there's a parts list available as part of Mellor's first post.

Joel Kreisel January 28th, 2006 06:39 PM

Jimmy, (or someone else who has done it this way) how would you recommend going from the C-mount to the 2" tube? I seem to remember someone saying the tube is 52mm, and I read online that the C-mount is 28mm. I should just be able to step between them, right?

Edit: Never mind... I guess it's not 28mm after all. So my question still stands: What's the best way to go from the C-mount adapter to the 52mm tube? It seems like a lot of people are just gluing it... does that work okay? What kind of glue are you using? Alternatively, Thorlabs sells a C-mount to SM1 tube adapter, but I'd still have to step up from there to the SM2 tube. Anyone know what the thread diameter would be on that?

Edit again: Okay, I read the thread again, and now people are talking about the BR-3 adapter and I've looked that up, and it looks really good. Am I correct in thinking it already has 52mm threads on it? Meaning it can be screwed directly into the Thorlabs tube, right?

Jimmy Herdberg January 29th, 2006 04:38 AM

I really like the BR-3 adapter but it's a nikon F-mount. I never used a c-mount. Before the BR-3 adapter I glued the f-mount from an old camera on a filterring (52mm).

Rich Hibner February 6th, 2006 09:27 PM

Hey Jimmy,

Just a quick question. Which side did you put the BR-3 adapter on?

Rh

Rich Hibner February 6th, 2006 09:28 PM

Hey Jimmy,

Just a quick question. Which side of the thorlabs tube did you put the BR-3 adapter on?

Rh

Jimmy Herdberg February 7th, 2006 05:56 PM

On the female side with a coupler between nikon f-mount female thread > coupler > female threaded tube. The good thing with the coupler is that you can adjust the distance between lens and groundglass to do some fine adjustments.

Rich Hibner February 8th, 2006 12:53 AM

Jimmy,

Yeah, I saw that you mentioned that earlier in your thread. I just was premature when asking. So the coupler works pretty good eh? I was thinking of using a male/male ring and using that because it is much cheaper that way.

Rh

Joel Kreisel February 11th, 2006 08:37 PM

How many retaining rings do you need for this? Because the spec sheet of the 2" tube says that one ring comes with it, so then buying two more would actually total 3, which wouldn't be very useful, since you pretty much need them in pairs, right? It was my understanding that inside the tube it would be:

Ring-GG-ring-{16mm space or so}-ring-condenser-ring

Right? So then I would need to order three?

Ben Winter February 11th, 2006 09:01 PM

Joel, when I built this adapter, the condenser works absolutely great right up against the ground glass--meaning you only have to buy one extra retaining ring.

On that note, I must add that I have a FL=70mm PCXL (the same used in richard mellor's design) that I got from Optosigma available for sale, in great condition, as well as a retaining ring. If you're interested I'll sell you both a retaining ring and the PCX for $30. Let me know.

Joel Kreisel February 11th, 2006 09:17 PM

Thanks for the offer Ben, but I've decided to go with an aspheric PCX for my model and see how that compares to other people's standard PCXs. If you just want to sell the ring, I'd take it off your hands, but I understand if you'd rather sell them together. Email me if you're interested.

Ben Winter February 11th, 2006 10:25 PM

Sounds good Joel. By the way, if you really want to, just take apart a 52mm UV filter; you'll find a "retaining ring" in there :)

Jimmy Herdberg February 12th, 2006 02:02 PM

You have one ring with the tube and have to buy three extra, two for gg and two for pcx-lens.


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