View Full Version : my Pocket Cinema rig


Robert Batta
August 23rd, 2007, 05:31 AM
Hi All,

this is my new little cinema rig:

Canon HV10 -> 37-43 step up -> macro set (Raynox DCR-250 -> 49-52 step up -> and +4 asian macro) -> 52-55 step up -> 35mm "Daniel's GG" DOF adapter (VH57X from Daniel's GG-holders http://www.jetsetmodels.info/vibrating.htm) -> 50mm F1.4 Carl Zeiss Jena -> matte box (from ebay) -> Cavision R15B80 rod support and SpiderBrace2

the rig height 2 kg

see the demo video1 (720*576 25p pal avi, no cc )
http://files.filefront.com/vibra+50mm+1sharp+dvavi/;8383158;;/fileinfo.html
82 MB

Robert Batta
August 23rd, 2007, 06:54 AM
..and a 720p .m2t version (with little sharpness)
http://files.filefront.com/pocket+cinema+720pm2t/;8383475;;/fileinfo.html

George Ellis
August 23rd, 2007, 08:17 AM
Robert, your first link is tango uniform. It has the ellipses in it for an abbreviated link and does not work.

Robert Batta
August 23rd, 2007, 08:52 AM
thanks George

now correct the first demo link

George Ellis
August 23rd, 2007, 09:19 AM
I looked at the M2T. I love this stuff. Movie DOF on a under 1k camera. Of course all the rest of it is more than the camera... :D

Heath McKnight
August 23rd, 2007, 09:33 AM
Wow, that's pretty cool. Reminds me of a rigged up SI-2K mini (http://www.siliconimaging.com/DigitalCinema/products.html).

heath

David Delaney
August 23rd, 2007, 02:32 PM
What is the shimmering that is happening when the person waves his hand in front of the camera? It looks like a stutter of some sort...

Robert Batta
August 23rd, 2007, 03:42 PM
What is the shimmering that is happening when the person waves his hand in front of the camera? It looks like a stutter of some sort...

sorry my english not best and not clear this question..

Robert Batta
August 23rd, 2007, 03:47 PM
hmm..maybe one hi-res picture help.. (?)

Heath McKnight
August 23rd, 2007, 03:56 PM
Why did you put it upside down? Because the lens and adaptor doesn't flip the image back to normal (something normally done in post)? Or am I seeing things?

heath

Robert Batta
August 23rd, 2007, 05:20 PM
Why did you put it upside down? Because the lens and adaptor doesn't flip the image back to normal (something normally done in post)? Or am I seeing things?

heath

for the easy casette change ... and the recorded footage correct (not upside down)

later i make the ldc flip mod...like this:
http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=837

Heath McKnight
August 23rd, 2007, 05:45 PM
Ahhh, I didn't think of the tape change. And it's so simple to just flip the camera over, something you can't do with a DVX, v1 or Canon A1.

heath

David W. Jones
August 24th, 2007, 06:35 AM
You must have a big pocket!

Robert Batta
August 28th, 2007, 07:40 AM
video link and 720p screenshots here:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=73022&postcount=49

enjoy :)

Robert Batta
September 20th, 2007, 04:31 AM
top handle and "U" grip for easy balance

Jon Wolding
September 22nd, 2007, 08:23 AM
Nice.
Any new footage?

Robert Batta
September 26th, 2007, 07:05 AM
Hi Jon and all,

i tested my 35mm vibration DOF adapter with HV20 in low light

HV20 in 25p and cine mode
shutter 1/25

720p .m2t sample footage (28MB):
http://files.filefront.com/hv20+rig+720pm2t/;8645072;/fileinfo.html

and some HV20 rig footage :

Shawn D. Caple
September 26th, 2007, 03:05 PM
Where did you get the Pro Grip? Did you make it?

Robert Batta
September 27th, 2007, 04:54 AM
Where did you get the Pro Grip? Did you make it?

yes is a home made
"pro grip" is a bicycle grip :)

Yang Wen
October 30th, 2007, 08:07 AM
Hey Robert, is this your video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuc9hmx7sJ8

If so, what camera and adapter was it shot with? I like it very much!

Robert Batta
October 30th, 2007, 01:50 PM
Hey Robert, is this your video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuc9hmx7sJ8

If so, what camera and adapter was it shot with? I like it very much!

Hi Yang,

yes this is my Canon HV10+DIY vibrating (VH57X Daniel's GG-holders) adapter footage

http://www.jetsetmodels.info/vibrating.htm

720p screenshots here:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3852

Yang Wen
October 30th, 2007, 02:10 PM
Hi Robert,

From your image, it looks like the HV10 is simply "resting" on the cavision rods tripod mounting plate.. is this true?

Also, so did you use this instruction for the HV10 as well?

http://www.jetsetmodels.info/pics/vh57x_tut.pdf

thanks
Yang

Karel Bata
October 31st, 2007, 11:14 AM
Hi there near-namesake!

Your rig is very impressive!

How much light (how many stops?) do you lose by shooting through the DOF adapter? How wide can you go with lenses? How quiet is it?

Any night-time footage?

Robert Batta
October 31st, 2007, 11:41 AM
Hi Robert,

From your image, it looks like the HV10 is simply "resting" on the cavision rods tripod mounting plate.. is this true?

Also, so did you use this instruction for the HV10 as well?

http://www.jetsetmodels.info/pics/vh57x_tut.pdf

thanks
Yang

HV10 upside down -> 5mm sponge -> cavision plate
i use the HV10 strap for more fixating to the cavision
the adapter and the HV10 hardmounted
and the adapter fixed to the cavision with the "pipe vice metal ring"

yes the tutorial OK

Robert Batta
October 31st, 2007, 11:54 AM
Hi there near-namesake!

Your rig is very impressive!

How much light (how many stops?) do you lose by shooting through the DOF adapter? How wide can you go with lenses? How quiet is it?

Any night-time footage?

Hi brada, thanks :)

light loss... i dont know... but i use Canon Ee-A focusing screen ..is very bright ! absolute no vignetting with f2.8 or better lenses on the screen

Karel Bata
October 31st, 2007, 12:41 PM
I wasn't thinking about vignetting - though I'm glad to hear it's not a problem - I wondered if there might be any limitations with wide angle lenses or going wide on a zoom. Maybe my question's a dumb one...

And you must have shot in dark places without the DOF, how does having it on there compare? Is it at all limiting?

Yang Wen
October 31st, 2007, 03:49 PM
What about sound recording? Since when upside down, the mic is covered up...

Robert Batta
November 1st, 2007, 02:54 AM
I wasn't thinking about vignetting - though I'm glad to hear it's not a problem - I wondered if there might be any limitations with wide angle lenses or going wide on a zoom. Maybe my question's a dumb one...

And you must have shot in dark places without the DOF, how does having it on there compare? Is it at all limiting?

Sorry Karel my english very poor maybe the translate not correct...

wide angle : i use Sigma 20mm f1.8 and no problem

i not compared in the dark but the HV20 more better in lowlight..
maybe later i make some lowlight tes footage.. with my vibrating adapter

Robert Batta
November 1st, 2007, 03:03 AM
What about sound recording? Since when upside down, the mic is covered up...

Yang,

enough the sponge half HV10 lenght ..the mic is free not covered !

Karel Bata
November 1st, 2007, 03:16 AM
Your english is very good. So good in fact that I didn't take account of the fact that I ought to have been clearer. My bad.

Your low light test - it is hard to tell just how low it is! Any chance of some footage of the world's first electric metro? That would be a good test. (Or maybe you are not in Budapest?)

And what are those marks at top left and right?

Robert Batta
November 1st, 2007, 05:31 AM
Your english is very good. So good in fact that I didn't take account of the fact that I ought to have been clearer. My bad.

Your low light test - it is hard to tell just how low it is! Any chance of some footage of the world's first electric metro? That would be a good test. (Or maybe you are not in Budapest?)

And what are those marks at top left and right?

I'm in Miskolc, maybe the subways a shame light conditions...
but this footage recorded at indoor (some neon lights)
with HV20 in cine mode 25p + vibra DOF adapter
download this 720p native m2t video file
http://files.filefront.com/hv20+rig+720pm2t/;8645072;/fileinfo.html

Robert Batta
December 7th, 2007, 10:20 AM
hi All,

i make with my pocket cinema rig (canon hv20+daniel's 35mm vibrating adapter)
this music video

the singer footage make with canon hv10 (no dof adapter) and the other footages with the pocket cinema rig

video download here:
http://files.filefront.com/kefir+jatszom+web+1mpg/;9203687;/fileinfo.html

i put some frame grabs

enjoy :)