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Yow Cheong Hoe July 15th, 2003, 10:34 AM Bogdan, I guess it is OK to 'complain' or 'bash' a camera if the facts are presented correctly. And it is not 'hypocritical' to bash a camera and buy it. There is no perfect camera out there and each has its own strengths and weakneses. The joy of a forum like this is to be able to discuss the pros and cons openly, so that we can all know of the benefits and drawbacks of each model, before we commit to a purchhase, or to use a camera better.
For the record, yet again, I chose the older MX350 over the MX500. I still find the MX500 not up to my expectations and taste as compared to the MX350. But the MX500 is a good camera. When my MX350 dies and I need a replacement immediately, it could well be the MX500. The fact that I have not been barred or kicked from this forum, even with my incessant complains of the MX500 (almost unfairly!) shows that open discussion based on facts is well accepted here!
This is out-of-topic and I apologise for that.
Eng Yew Lee July 15th, 2003, 05:29 PM FYI. Masaki-san has posted the English translation for the GS-100K menus on the MX5000 Yahoo group a few minutes ago.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MX5000/files/GS100Menu.zip
Masaki Kuraoka July 15th, 2003, 05:39 PM Hello Mr. Lee
I am sorry that it is not PDF files. Can someone convert to PDF for everyone who need them?
Well, I don't have GS100K so, I don't need it :-P
Anyway, This thread is toooooooo loooooooong..........
Mike de la Fuente July 15th, 2003, 07:01 PM PDF of translations (http://404.realmud.com/mike/misc/gs100.zip)
Bogdan Vaglarov July 15th, 2003, 07:19 PM Thanks to all who replayed to my worries.
Well, sorry for entering with the negative side, I just thought there is no need to repeat the good things which are much more.
Allan, I feel relieved that the data can be replayed. Thanks for all the presice information you are giving us.
Other wise I also wish better inegration on the border of consumer and pro. Or at least to be given the choice wich way to go Yow! I think it's fair to complain about this. Even consumer models of Sony have separate mic, headphone, lanc conectors. They also sell proprietary hot shoe mics but you can chose not to buy such and go with other brand. Not with this lovely Pana though. I have to go with their gun mic.
Cheers,
Bogdan
John Schaefer July 15th, 2003, 09:18 PM Mike, that's good stuff. Did you do this, or what was the source...is this posted somewhere (other than here, of course, now)?
Patricia Kim July 16th, 2003, 12:56 AM Masaki and Mike, you are both gentlemen and scholars. Thank you. Now, Masaki, it should be possible for people to start a few new threads, eh? Maybe Eng Yew Lee can begin with some of those "grabs" people have been clamoring for. You would be doing all of us a service. Here's hoping.
Tony Leung July 16th, 2003, 04:37 AM <<<-- Originally posted by Marius Burz : Hi Eng...
From where did you get your GS70 manual? Is it in electronic format?
I am also looking for a manual(even in Japanese) for the GS100 but I need it in electronic format, so I will be able to use some online dictionary. Any idea where I could find one?
The cam is on the way to me, so in 2 days I'll play with the babe(I hope...). -->>>
You may find the PDF version of GS100K manual here:
http://panasonic.jp/support/video/manual/manual.html
But it is in Japanese version.
Michael Struthers July 16th, 2003, 09:33 AM Thanks!
Now if someone could post 16 x 9 30 fps footage it would be tremendous.
M
Mike de la Fuente July 16th, 2003, 06:13 PM Hey, everyone. You ever start responding to a post to describe something and from there you, perhaps, start asking yourself questions to better describe something or suggest something, then your mind wanders, you start something else and you totally forget about finishing the response? Well, that's what I did - started to respond to John's post 2 hours ago and went off on a tangent and totally forgot about the reply.
To sum up the past couple of hours, I started by replying that the source of my PDF was Masaki's translated BMP's and WMF's that I simply put in Word DOC to PDF. I included the DOC so people could edit it to whatever page size they wanted and add whatever content they need to make a nice small cheat sheet.
Then I started thinking about what we could add. I remembered the Japanese manual in PDF mentioned earlier and wished it could be directly input into one of those web translators which unfortunately seem to only accept HTML or plain text.
Then I figured someone must have a PDF to HTML converter and I found some. A couple didn't run well and others didnt' support Japanese until I found an Adobe Acrobat plugin called Magellan which works beautifully except that its $200 for a full version and the demo only converts odd numbered pages. Even numbered pages are replaced with a demo warning instead of an interpreted page. So, I cooked up a blank page in Word, printed it to PDF and inserted it into the manual, displacing all pages by one so evens become odd. Magellan converted these pages as before.
The problem is you'd have to have two browsers open, one open to the odd page version and one open to the even page version, and switch between them everytime you moved from one page to another. I found a file renamer called Flash Renamer that makes file renaming easier so I could take all the html pages and associated graphics which have the even page content (but odd numbered html/graphics files) and rename them down 1 step to the correct even pages and replace files in the first odd-only HTML manual. This took several steps to get the automatic file renamer to end up in the desired result.
The last problem is editing the actual HTML code so the image tags in each even numbered HTML page calls for the graphics files with the correct pages. For example, page 96, which was originally page 97 under the pagination of my demo work around, is looking for graphics labeled for page 97, but all of those graphics files have been renamed to 96. I couldn't simply leave the HTML code and image files at the odd numbers because the image files of the real odd numbered pages would be overwritten.
The only way I can figure out to get the image file references corrected in the HTML is basically by brute force - I'm using an HTML editor (Homesite) and opening every even paged HTML file and changing the numbers for each image tag. Thankfully, there's the Find and Replace tool to quicken things up a bit, but it's still going to take a while. Each page takes about 5-7 seconds of time (thank goodness for keyboard shortcuts) and about 3% off of my tedium tolerance.
Right now, I'm uploading a preview for everyone that doesn't have everything working correctly, yet, so you can see what I should have done by tonight. I'll check back in a little while before I'm done to see if you all think it's worth completing. Unfortunately, there's 212 pages of worth of HTML and graphics so it's going to take a while to upload even the incomplete version. The link should be http://404.realmud.com/mike/misc/nv_gs100k.htm.
I tested what's uploaded so far through babelfish.altavista.com and main frame with the actual pages isn't being translated. When I try inserting the URL for the cover page without the frames (http://404.realmud.com/mike/misc/nv_gs100k/css/nv_gs100k_1.htm), it works (well, it works as well as web translators can translate). Right now, I can't think of a work around for this. If anyone has suggestions, let me know.
Thanks,
Mike
Frank Granovski July 16th, 2003, 07:12 PM http://www.panasonic.com.au/support/downloads/details.cfm?FileID=24&CategoryID=2&SubCategories=%27DVC3CCD%27%2C%27DVC1CCD%27%2C%27DSNAP%27%2C%27CAM%27%2C%27BATCAM%27%2C%27CAMACC%27% 2C%27RMVHSC%27%2C%27RMDIGT%27%2C%27RMSDC%27
direct GS100 link for manual
Mike de la Fuente July 16th, 2003, 07:14 PM Well, it went faster than I thought. I guess I got fast at the repetition. I'm sure there are errors, especially with all the renaming and text replacing I did, but it looks OK overall. I guess the next step is to start feeding it into the translators and interpreting what comes out.
The Japanese HTML manual can be found here:
http://404.realmud.com/mike/misc/nv_gs100k.htm
and a zip of the entire thing (4 MB) here:
http://404.realmud.com/mike/misc/nv_gs100k-html.zip
Marius Burz July 17th, 2003, 08:45 AM Victory!
The cam is here!
I had no chance(yet) to transfer video to my PC but from what I see on the LCD I love this cam. As soon as I'll have some footage on my system I'll upload some segments somewhere. Until now I used only the auto mode(I still have to learn how to operate it properly).
I am looking for UV/skylight/pol filters(43mm) for this babe. Could someone recommend me some brands? I have seen good deals for Hoya on ebay, but Hoya doesn't tell me much(I am a beginner, BTW)
It took a bit more than 2 days since the cam was shipped til I had it in my hands. That is what I call fast(from japan to germany using DHL).
What to say abour pricejapan.com? Only good things. Very good contact and very fast replies to my emails. And they were patient and friendly all the time although I had a lot of questions for them. They shipped it very fast(several hours after my wire arrived there. I used wire becuse I don't trust paypal). I chose the double packing(20 euro extra) and what I can tell you is that the packing was extremely good with a lot of air bubbles. The content of the package, all brand new, not a single scratch. So this is really new.
So all I can say is: I am a happy customer :)
(I was not paid by them to say this. When I was looking on the net to find some opinions about them I found almost nothing, so that's why I expressed my opinion here)
Eng Yew Lee July 17th, 2003, 11:47 AM Marius,
Check out http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MX5000/files/GS100K_Menus_01.zip
Hope it helps. Let me know of any corrections. Masaki-san has already given me some guidance and I will be revving it tonight.
Marius Burz July 18th, 2003, 02:06 AM Thanks Eng...
Already checked that and it was of great help to get me started. I will start a new thread regarding the operation of GS100K.
By the way the code for silver edition is GS100K-S and for black it is GS100K-B.
Frank Granovski July 18th, 2003, 03:51 AM I went to that link and only get this message:
The requested file or directory is not found on the server.
Do you have the correct link?
Marius Burz July 18th, 2003, 05:07 AM Frank, the correct link can be found under my new thread regarding the operation of the GS100K.
This thread being so long got hard to read.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MX5000/files/GS100K_Menus_02.zip
Frank Granovski July 18th, 2003, 05:19 AM Thanks. This one seems to work.
Bram Corstjens July 19th, 2003, 05:57 PM Am I correct that the GS100 can do Progressive (30p) and 16:9 Widescreen at the same time!?
Joao Oliveira July 30th, 2003, 03:27 AM I hear good things about pricejapan.com
I just wonder if anyone ordering from them had problems with customs? Or did DHL delivered at your door step without any hassle or headache? Anyone had to pay any import tax/duty?
Just wondering. I'm in Thailand and DHL tells me that there would be 3% import duty (which if it's true is not too bad). Unfortunately, I'm not sure if I can trust their information.
Thanks for any comment.
Shawn Thomas July 30th, 2003, 09:55 AM i just got a gs 100 delivered to my door via ems and us postal
acording to price jappan both dhl and ems ship to your door
here is how it went" flawless" on a saturday even
We shipped following items, 1 hours before.
Panasonic NV-GS100K(BLACK)
VW-LDH3.video light
VW-VBD7.battery pack and belt connection cable
VW-LF43W. lenze fiters
Your VW-LF43W and LDH3 arrived to us, today's afternoon.
In Japan, as DHL does not work on Saturdays's afternoon and all Sunday (but Japan Post office works 24 hours, 365 days),
We shipped it via EMS shipping, because I think EMS shipping is faster than DHL in this case.
Your EMS tracking No. is EE675136621JP
You can track your item at http://www.post.japanpost.jp/english/ems/ems.html or
http://www.usps.com/shipping/trackandconfirm.htm
I wrote "101,000 Yen" as amount of "video camera and its accesorries" NV-GS100K.
But, as seen in past cases, You may not track it at the same day of shipping.
Thanks again for your order.
Kaneda
www.PriceJapan.com
1. All items we shipped is coverd by AIU insurance.
If you find that box is broken at its arrival to you, for its insurance cover, please make its confirmation from Delivery guy, on paper.
Delivery guy have its paper form that admits its box broken on delivery to customers.
Without it, it is difficult to process insurance covering when it arrived broken.
2. Please keep item's paper box , all of codes, manuals written in Japanse, commercial invoice, specially blank warranty card, for 1 warranty year.
All of these items is need for warranty replacement/repair.
you can check the tracking # and enter it in the sites listed above
just to see exactly the chain of events and i paid no import tax
they listed the value @860 bucks or you can request it as a gift
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