View Full Version : 'er film look tips


Frank Granovski
June 17th, 2003, 10:59 PM
1/30th or 1/60th for NTSC; 1/50th for PAL wide open aperture and long focal lengths Cokin's Sunsoft or 81B Tiffen Diffusion FX or Golden FX maybe a sepia filter progressive scan 70 - 75 IRE don't over expose keep 'er signal legal :)

Got more tips? Post 'em here!

Alex Knappenberger
June 17th, 2003, 11:08 PM
I still haven't gotten around to writting a little newbies guide to doing "enhancements" in Vegas 4.

Here's a sample of what some tweaking in Vegas 4 can do.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/232350/brickwall.jpg

Color Curves - Gradient Map - HSL Adjust - Bump Map

Keep in mind that "film doesn't do red well".

Frank Granovski
June 18th, 2003, 12:25 AM
A few more film-look tips: be creative with camera angles experiment with lighting try your hand at B&W to study lighting don't forget the audio 'n interesting sounds

Charles King
June 18th, 2003, 01:04 AM
Alex, you have exceeded your bandwidth time. I guess we have to wait until next month to view the clip, uh? :)

Alex Knappenberger
June 18th, 2003, 01:06 AM
Nah, that place gives you 5MB of transfer per day... I updated the link to the picture...

and here's a couple more, since i'm bored (not as good).

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/232350/hairy.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/232350/sidewalk.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/232350/stoned3.jpg

Thats why I love Vegas 4.0. :D

Zac Stein
June 18th, 2003, 01:17 AM
Looks great alex, post your methods on how you did them, in some detail.


Zac

Nigel Moore
June 18th, 2003, 02:00 AM
limit pans track don't zoom

Mark Moore
June 18th, 2003, 08:31 AM
These are great tips, guys. I wish I could contribute, but I'll just have to leech for now.

Also, good shots, Alex. Thanks for posting.

Jim Quinlan
June 18th, 2003, 09:15 AM
Great examples Alex !!!

I recently started experimenting with HSL and contrast using Vegas and the before and after results are just amazing. Saturation really brings out the richness of the colors.

Now I'll experiment with color curves, gradiant map and bump map effects to keep tweaking. Thanks

Imran Zaidi
June 18th, 2003, 09:41 AM
Anyone seen a film by the name of Spun that recently made the Indie festival circuit? It's got some names in it such as John Leguizamo, Brittany Murphy:

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0283003

The screen caps that Alex put up have a distinctly similar texture to the texture of this film. I think it was a 16mm production.

I'm a big 16mm film fan, so good job Alex.

Cosmin Rotaru
June 18th, 2003, 10:17 AM
Ok Alex, I've learned the Color Curves stuff (you had post a pic with setings) and I like doing that to my clips! Now you have to show me how to use Gradient Map, HSL Adjust and the Bump Map!!! :)

Alex Knappenberger
June 18th, 2003, 02:25 PM
Hey guys, i'll write a little article explaining what you can do with the gradient map and all that... expect it up tonight.

Paul Bettner
June 18th, 2003, 04:01 PM
Getting access usage limits on all those links :-(

John Locke
June 18th, 2003, 05:52 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by Nigel Moore : limit pans track don't zoom -->>>

Nigel, you've just ruled out everything shot for Japanese TV.

Alex Knappenberger
June 18th, 2003, 05:55 PM
Here's the little article you guys wanted. Check out the post I made for it. Hosting is needed, after about 200 views, it will be a dead link.

http://www.freewebs.com/vegas4/vegas4.htm

Now I just need to get some people to make some videos with me so I can actually use all this crap on something worth it. :D

Mark Moore
June 18th, 2003, 07:06 PM
Alex, thanks for the article. I'll have to check Premiere to see if I can now play with some of my images like that.

Keep up the work.

Imran Zaidi
June 18th, 2003, 08:15 PM
Great little tut! I find it really timely too, because I've finally gotten sick and fed up with Premiere, and am trying out Vegas 4 for the first time.

I think it was because of a recent tiny short I edited on a Final Cut Pro 3 workstation. I realized how archaic Premiere really has become. Yeah I know FCPro is a much more expensive tool, but that's not my point. Premiere just feels old and clunky now. Especially now in the day of XP with its slick interfaces and faster, XP optimized applications, (which Premiere is not). I have high hopes for Vegas...

Bruce A. Christenson
June 18th, 2003, 11:09 PM
Thanks Alex. I recently upgraded to Vegas 4 from Video Factor and then Vegas 3, so I'm going to try a lot of these techniques on my next short. For the first short I did, I simply altered the color curves and brightness, but didn't go beyond that.

Nigel Moore
June 19th, 2003, 01:00 AM
Premiere just feels old and clunky now.That's because it is old and clunky! :-)

I have some hope for v7 (especially a more usable motion dialogue). We shall see.

Alex Knappenberger
June 19th, 2003, 01:04 AM
Yeah, I expect Adobe to do something good with Premiere 7, since Vegas 4 has taken over. Gotta love competition. Many months ago, Adobe contacted someone I talk to online and asked him if he would like to be a beta tester for Premiere 7, since the guy said he liked his videos, his website, and knew he used Premiere...i'm pretty sure he said yes. Hopefully he did go through with it, so I can get some word on if it's good or not. :D

Cosmin Rotaru
June 19th, 2003, 03:13 AM
Thanks Alex! :)
Nice stuff!