View Full Version : EX1 fast motion test footage please...


Jason Bodnar
January 17th, 2008, 03:22 PM
Can anyone out there that has an EX1 shoot some Motocross or even fast moving cars for that matter in 35Mb HQ with a shutter of 1/500 to 1/1000 and perform a couple of Pans and post the footage...? Thanks it would be very much appreciated! I am going to order my Camera in Feb but just want to see how it handles this type of footage in the Real World instead of speculation. So far out of the footage that I have seen there has not been any real fast motion or should I say faster motion.

I want to see how the footage turns out...Hopefully no artifacts or Rolling Shutter skews.


Jason

Steven Thomas
January 17th, 2008, 05:36 PM
Jason,
Here's a clear example of the EX1 skew.
It was shot at 720 60P and slowed down about 4 seconds into the footage.
Look at the back posts for skew, it's there. If you're OK with this, you'll be fine for this type of event. I was over 100 feet away on the tele end of the lens. I had to pan fast to keep up with the action. That night I was whipping the camera around.


I'd like to thank Maxim from Aerialsfilm for hosting this clip.

1280x720 720 60P (35mb/s) 63MB
http://www.aerialsfilm.com/stevet/Soccer_PMWEX1_720_60P_3.wmv

Bill Ravens
January 17th, 2008, 06:06 PM
Thanx for posting that footage, Steve. Looks like a non-issue AFAIK.

Jason Bodnar
January 17th, 2008, 07:16 PM
Steve, Thanks for that clip, I tried to watch it a while back but the link was not working for me. I just watched it and that is nothing, All the talk surrounding the skew had me worried but that footage is very nice! I can not wait to get my hands on this camera.

Brendan Pyatt
January 19th, 2008, 11:37 AM
I have been using a V1U which i guess has the same (or worse) issue as its CMOS as well. I have never noticed it...

But I was being to worry about my investment in the EX1. Your footage makes me feel that it is a non-issue for me.

I do wonder how the EX1 will react to be used in a helicopter (without a gyro)...

Bernard Racelis
January 20th, 2008, 05:53 PM
Can anyone out there that has an EX1 shoot some Motocross

Indoor motocross (supercross) action:

http://www.palsomedia.com/motocross/

- 1080i60
- 1080p24
- 1080p30
- 720p60

+3 gain on the 1080 shots, and +6 gain on the 720p60 shot.

Dean Harrington
January 20th, 2008, 06:23 PM
Jason,
Here's a clear example of the EX1 skew.
It was shot at 720 60P and slowed down about 4 seconds into the footage.
Look at the back posts for skew, it's there. If you're OK with this, you'll be fine for this type of event. I was over 100 feet away on the tele end of the lens. I had to pan fast to keep up with the action. That night I was whipping the camera around.


I'd like to thank Maxim from Aerialsfilm for hosting this clip.

1280x720 720 60P (35mb/s) 63MB
http://www.aerialsfilm.com/stevet/Soccer_PMWEX1_720_60P_3.wmv
This looks fine to my eye!

Steven Thomas
January 20th, 2008, 08:32 PM
Looks good, thanks Bernard.

Jason Bodnar
January 20th, 2008, 11:55 PM
Bernard, Thanks much for posting these clips. They look great! Where is that track?

David Lorente
January 21st, 2008, 08:10 AM
Thank you for sharing this, Bernard. I don't see any skew, squeeze, or the other evil rolling shutter artifacts, so I definitely sign up in the CMOS sensors fan list :D

Bernard Racelis
January 21st, 2008, 10:36 AM
Where is that track?

http://www.mototownusa.com

Jason Bodnar
January 21st, 2008, 09:18 PM
Mototown...Yes I thought I recognized that place. Thanks Bernard

Charles Dasher
January 23rd, 2008, 02:34 AM
Here are a few clips I shot yesterday of some kite surfing in Florida. Not much quick panning but some fairly quick action. I did a helicopter shoot today of a 60 mile kite race. I will post some footage when I have a spare moment.

http://blip.tv/file/617595?filename=DasherFilms-JupiterKitingSloMo186.mov

Brendan Pyatt
January 23rd, 2008, 03:22 AM
good stuff there charles. did you use an extender? you got some nice close action. Manual focus? What about white balance?

would be really keen to see from the heli - you use a gyro or not? It will be interesting to see how the cam deals with the vibrations.

thanks.

Brad Vaughan
January 23rd, 2008, 09:18 AM
Here are a few clips I shot yesterday of some kite surfing in Florida. Not much quick panning but some fairly quick action. I did a helicopter shoot today of a 60 mile kite race. I will post some footage when I have a spare moment.

http://blip.tv/file/617595?filename=DasherFilms-JupiterKitingSloMo186.mov



Charles!

Beautiful footage!

What settings did you use for the slo-mo shots? (if you don't mind?)

Charles Dasher
January 23rd, 2008, 03:18 PM
Thanks for the positive feedback! I shot 720P 24 at 60fps. It was pretty overcast and gray. I had set up PP1 to specs I got off the forum.

Matrix High sat, level+25
WB preset 5600
Gamma 0. CINE4
Black -5
Low ket SAT +15

I am new to the world of PP settings so I really appreciate the threads and the people sharing knowledge.

I do not have and extender yet so no on that, manual focus yes. I shot some surfing this morning and played with the auto focus with mixed results. I need to look at it on my monitor to see if AF will be good enough for shooting action events where I am shifting from rider to rider all the time.

Having stepped up from the DV world I am enjoying having a manual lens.

Dasher

Brad Vaughan
January 23rd, 2008, 03:46 PM
Thx Charles.

the 720p60 really helps with the SloMo shots. It's the one option that really has made up my mind on this camera.

I shoot lots of action shots and to see the slo-motion shots holding up that nicely is very pleasing to the eyes.

Thanks for the info on your settings.

Brad

Brendan Pyatt
January 23rd, 2008, 04:11 PM
Thanks for the positive feedback! I shot 720P 24 at 60fps. It was pretty overcast and gray. I had set up PP1 to specs I got off the forum.

Matrix High sat, level+25
WB preset 5600
Gamma 0. CINE4
Black -5
Low ket SAT +15

I am new to the world of PP settings so I really appreciate the threads and the people sharing knowledge.

I do not have and extender yet so no on that, manual focus yes. I shot some surfing this morning and played with the auto focus with mixed results. I need to look at it on my monitor to see if AF will be good enough for shooting action events where I am shifting from rider to rider all the time.

Having stepped up from the DV world I am enjoying having a manual lens.

Dasher


thanks from my previous experience autofocus is a bit of nightmare for sports - it seems to work only in the centre - i thought you used manual focus but wanted to check.

I intend to shoot using 720/50p (pal land here ;) )

Nice PP settings - where are they on here ? -edit - stupid question! i looked and can see them now...

thanks again!

Bernard Racelis
January 28th, 2008, 01:19 PM
Rallycross:

http://www.palsomedia.com/rallycross