View Full Version : There's no Panasonic AVCHD thread, so..here's bit of HDC-SD9


Kaku Ito
February 4th, 2008, 07:32 PM
http://www.onebikeguy.com/KakugyoBlog/Podcast/Podcast.html

Jon Fairhurst
February 4th, 2008, 07:48 PM
Very nice! If that camera had an external mic input, it would be at the top of my list...

Kaku Ito
February 4th, 2008, 08:15 PM
Jon,

Oh, good, you find it, that saves me to post a reply to the other thread for you.

Jon Fairhurst
February 5th, 2008, 02:21 AM
Yes, I previously confirmed it with a friend of mine at Panasonic. The last consumer video camera from Panasonic with an external mic input is the GS500 (we have it). The GS500 will be discontinued in the US this month.

I agree that the low end consumer cameras do not need the external mic input, but I think it's required to compete with the HV30 for the crown of "best consumer camcorder". They got all of the other features (focus ring, zebras, 1080p24, access to manual controls, HDMI...) right.

Kaku Ito
February 5th, 2008, 06:04 AM
Jon,

No focus ring.

Jon Fairhurst
February 5th, 2008, 11:31 AM
Jon,

No focus ring.Really???

What does the moving ring do??? At CES it turned.

(The guy at CES told me that it had an external mic input - and a focus ring. They need to do better training.)

Kaku Ito
February 5th, 2008, 08:16 PM
Really???

What does the moving ring do??? At CES it turned.

(The guy at CES told me that it had an external mic input - and a focus ring. They need to do better training.)

It does turn to get it off, that is all.

Jon Fairhurst
February 5th, 2008, 08:39 PM
In this case, the lack of a mic input is no big deal. The SD-9 isn't the camera that I thought it was...

I can't wait to learn about Scarlet. And then I might just get an HV30.

David Saraceno
February 6th, 2008, 12:43 PM
That shoots 1080/24p with pulldown?

And how did you ingest that into what to get a true 24p result?

Kaku Ito
February 6th, 2008, 01:21 PM
so far, what I did was to connect its component out to MOTU V3HD's HD component in and capture clips with DVCPRO HD format, then find the cadence then apply inverse telecine with Cinema Tools and it worked out.
I have to switch the field dominance depending on the clip but it's not so hard.

I also tried capturing using its HDMI out via Multibridge Eclipse with ProRes 422HQ format (so it captures at full raster) but this way, I'm not successful removing the pulldown, I tried every possible setting but some thing goes wrong.

Although it is with 3CCD, since the CCD's so small or because of being MEPG based, I have to be very subtle with camera action at 24p recording. So, in this case, I don't know which is better, CMOS or small 3CCD. I noticed the same kinda of artifacts on JVC's HD1 everio, too.

It is a great value to recommend it to someone starting to shoot video for sure, but probably not for the members. here.

I bought it for onboard purpose only, so I'm not regretting, but I wish the picture was little better in 24p mode.

By the way, combining with Brevis, it works fairly well, I had a lot easier time shooting without external display for focussing than HV20.

60i looks mostly fine, but for 24p, I have to look into HF10 and see how well it captures.

Anmol Mishra
July 13th, 2015, 11:47 AM
Kaku-san
Did you observe the motion artefacts even when you recorded via Motu HD ?
I thought the artefacts were due to AVCHD compression - are they due to pixel shift ?