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K. Forman
July 21st, 2003, 11:35 AM
I just finished downloading and watching a short by Director/FX master Sandy Collora. It was a very interesting fan film. The shots and editing were nice, but what really shined was the details put into the characters. A must see for any fan!

It is a 44 MB QT, currently available only on Kazaa, and through a few other priviledged sources. The name is Batman-Dead End.

Ronnie Grahn
July 21st, 2003, 08:52 PM
Just catched it. Very nice work by the people involved. Surprised me in more than one way...
Anyone know what format it was shot on?

K. Forman
July 22nd, 2003, 08:03 AM
I originally thought film, but the credits said "videography", which implies video. I will try to get in touch with the people who made it, and maybe get some answers.

Keith Loh
July 22nd, 2003, 10:57 AM
I would only call it a fan film for its content. In every other way it was a totally pro job. Love the 'guest stars' :)

K. Forman
July 22nd, 2003, 11:31 AM
It is a fan film, because it is not licensed, nor endorsed by the copyright owners-DC Comics and Warner Bros.

Kevin Burnfield
July 22nd, 2003, 01:42 PM
Okay... I have no idea on what medium this was shot but I doubt it was video--- but I'm not sure because I can't find any details about it.

BUT it is DAMN COOL. I'll go as far as to say AMAZING.

It's a fan made Batman film that I get the feeling they pumped a lot of money into but if you watch it a couple of times you can see the tricks they used to make it look so cool.

http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend/index.shtml


Check it out...

If anyone has any details about this film (which premiered, I am told, at the San Diego Comic-Con) please share them or post some links.

Kevin Burnfield
July 22nd, 2003, 01:44 PM
I just posted the link to this movie off THEFORCE.NET in another thread.

It's worth every second of download!!!!

(( sorry, didn't see this thread before I posted the new one ))

Neil Kissoon
July 22nd, 2003, 02:14 PM
Have you seen this eight minute short? Was it shot on DV?

http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend/

Kevin Burnfield
July 22nd, 2003, 02:56 PM
I haven't been able to find ANY details on the production but I did find out that the director works (or worked) at Stan Winston's shop so I think that's where he got the costumes.

If i had to guess, I'd say it was film but who knows.

Matt Betea
July 22nd, 2003, 06:19 PM
Thanks Kevin, I was searching google last night but couldn't come up with anything as far as finding a download.

Matt Betea
July 22nd, 2003, 07:29 PM
Man that was unexpected. That was pretty sweet though. Make up was excellent. My favorite shot had to be near the beginning, when he's crouched down in the puddle and rises up. Very strong with the shadow.

Kevin Burnfield
July 22nd, 2003, 09:02 PM
totally great.

I think we should start a SPOILER thread to discuss the details of it after you've seen it... there are surprises I'd hate to ruin for anyone!!!

Robert Poulton
July 22nd, 2003, 09:10 PM
I hate crossovers. This one just wasn't good from a story standpoint....wait there wasn't one. Just someone showing off they can do what they did. To bad, I was really hoping when it started off. The scenes with batman in the beginning were great to bad they moved out of batman into other things.

Rob:D

Zac Stein
July 22nd, 2003, 10:10 PM
I loved it, but got a question.

It looked like they went to such great lengths production value wise, so why did his costume suck so badly? Come on, it was shocking.

Zac

Ps. my favorate shot is during the second fight sequence, they cut to him quickly with just a brick wall behind him, a medium shot with him in the right of frame, for some reason i really liked that shot.

Robert Poulton
July 22nd, 2003, 10:31 PM
you mean batman's costume? if so that was his original costume that he had back in the detective comics. I liked it way better than the other costumes that they used in the other films. At least batman looked right in this short.

Rob:D

Heath McKnight
July 23rd, 2003, 12:08 AM
Here's an interview:

http://superherohype.com/cgi-bin/news/fullnews.cgi?newsid1058909880,87994,

It's filled with spoilers, so watch the film first.

I read the extensive review first, and it lost me when the second villain (after Joker) entered (not to mention the third villain). When I saw it, I thought, it's cool, I guess, but it lost me. I'd hate to be Bats at the end!

I wish they would've stuck with the BATMAN score they swiped, instead of the other two film scores they put in. Took me out of the film. I'm being vague on purpose!

Overall, it's a $30,000 + production likely done on 35 mm or HD (CineAlta, I'd guess).

heath

Nigel Moore
July 23rd, 2003, 12:44 AM
I think that this is the same film as discussed in this thread (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12292). But thanks for the URL...the thought of kazaa gives me the creeps.

Heath McKnight
July 23rd, 2003, 01:25 AM
<<<-- Originally posted by Robert Poulton : you mean batman's costume? if so that was his original costume that he had back in the detective comics. I liked it way better than the other costumes that they used in the other films. At least batman looked right in this short.

Rob:D -->>>

It was based on painter Alex Ross' designs.

I read an extensive review beforehand and the second villain lost me. I was totally yanked out.

Here's the director's site:

collorastudios.com

He's been doing effects work forever.

heath

K. Forman
July 23rd, 2003, 06:00 AM
My request for production information is being forwarded to Sandy Collora. Hopefully, he will find time and share some behind the scenes details.

Neil Kissoon
July 23rd, 2003, 06:46 AM
All I've got to say I loved that Year One Costume. I've seen the guy who played Batman in Fitness Mags... Eas.com
Good Short, only complaint -- All Batman next time.

K. Forman
July 23rd, 2003, 06:55 AM
This really isn't a short film. It was merely a way for Sandy Collora to spotlight his abilities. While it is cool, and a better effort than the last couple of Batman movies, it is just a demo.

Keith Loh
July 23rd, 2003, 11:16 AM
I like his Pocari Sweat commercial:

http://stream.qtv.apple.com/qtv/videoc/http/benn001/benn001_http_300_ref.mov

K. Forman
July 23rd, 2003, 12:28 PM
OK... I just got a reply from one of the crew-

"It was shot in the back alley of an aluminum wharehouse in LA. It's shot on 35mm film, and we did the whole thing in the freezing cold with rain machines blasting the whole time.....COLD! the whole shot only took 4 days, but pre-production was around 6 months."

Hope this answers some questions :)

Kevin Burnfield
July 23rd, 2003, 12:43 PM
I could tell it was all shot in one area, they really used the overhead spot to great advantage. It really isolated the action and let you focus on it and not the surroundings... and also let you have so-so surroundings and it didn't matter.

Ronnie Grahn
July 23rd, 2003, 07:00 PM
Interview with Sandy Collora at Ain't It Cool News (http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=15721).

Heath McKnight
July 23rd, 2003, 07:14 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by Ronnie Grahn : Interview with Sandy Collora at Ain't It Cool News (http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=15721). -->>>

I read another interview at superherohype.com that was all right, done probably via email or instant messaging.

It's cool, but the other villains yanked me RIGHT out!

heath

Dylan Couper
July 23rd, 2003, 09:43 PM
It's much cooler if you are a comic book nerd and have read any of the great Dark Horse Aliens vs. Predator series crossed over with many, many other superheroes.

Heath McKnight
July 23rd, 2003, 11:58 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by Dylan Couper : It's much cooler if you are a comic book nerd and have read any of the great Dark Horse Aliens vs. Predator series crossed over with many, many other superheroes. -->>>

I'm the one of the biggest! I have an extensive comics collection (Iron Man and the Flash are my favorites), the original Aliens Vs. Predator comics is one of my favorites, I write for a comics webzine (movie news), I have the Punisher skull tattooed on my leg...But it still yanked me right out.

heath

Robert Poulton
July 24th, 2003, 03:07 AM
Well I wasn't going to admit it but yes I am as well. Love comic cons loads of fun and a great time to meet the artist and writers. I would of loved to see other Batman villians attacking him. Maybe if he made it like a trailer. It would be nice to see an opening of Batman, like in the airbrushed cartoon; you know before they changed it to Batman & Robin.


Rob:D

Keith Loh
July 24th, 2003, 09:53 AM
I was a much bigger comics nerd a couple years ago but I do go by the comics store every week to look (in vain) to see if there is anything interesting. I don't typically buy superhero comics but like a lot of fans I was revived (briefly) by The Dark Knight, Alex Ross. I would be much more interested to see how someone might adapt The Watchmen, The Invisibles (can you imagine the FX and the gun fights?) and maybe the Warren Ellis stuff.

Upcoming comics films: Hellboy (lovely production stills coming from that one), Preacher (great story), Punisher, Submariner, Fantasic Four and a John Constantine film that seems to bear little relation to Hellblazer.

Dylan Couper
July 24th, 2003, 10:24 AM
As long as we don't get a sequel to Daredevil...
"Ugh... Worst movie ever..." (Comic Book Guy)

I used to really be into comics in my teens, and still have my collection. Although I never got into Batman, one of my prized possessions and all time favorites is Aliens vs. Predator #0, and the rest of that series.

K. Forman
July 24th, 2003, 12:36 PM
Keith- You forgot Ghost Rider (In production) and Ironman.

Dylan- You must not have seen The Hulk, or the last two Batman movies, or any of the Superhero movies of the 70's? Those were far worse than Daredevil. I can hardly wait, DD will be out on DVD in 5 days!

Heath McKnight
July 24th, 2003, 01:59 PM
GHOST RIDER is in pre-production.

I cover a lot of comics movies stuff at:

http://www.invincibleironman.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=15&sid=deff0ebbae3822c69bb445a746ca3d71

WATCHMAN is being developed by the writer of the first X-MEN (I mean, transcriber).

heath

Dylan Couper
July 24th, 2003, 07:01 PM
Okay, Batman and Robin is the worst modern superhero movie then.
Maybe I have such a grudge against DD because I saw it on 3 consecutive flights last month. Still the fight scene in the playground was d - u - m dumb.

Haven't seen Hulk yet. I can't count the superhero movies of the 70's and 80's against the modern ones. The effects and budgets couldn't compete, so it's not fair. If we did, then Captain America might be the worst.

Matt Betea
July 24th, 2003, 07:08 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by Dylan Couper :I can't count the superhero movies of the 70's and 80's against the modern ones. The effects and budgets couldn't compete, so it's not fair. -->>>
True, I don't think it would be fair to recent superhero movies either <grin>

Heath McKnight
July 24th, 2003, 07:13 PM
HULK was a disappointment for me; I'm an indie filmmaker who loves some arty films and I also love some action films, but HULK was a bad crossing of both. I wouldn't have given Ang Lee, an accomplished director, final cut.

heath

K. Forman
July 24th, 2003, 08:16 PM
Actually, as bad as the Captain America movies were, Dr. Strange was far worse, as were the early Spiderman movies with Parker Stevenson. Then, you had the Hulk movies that introduced Daredevil and Thor. Those were AWFUL!

Heath McKnight
July 24th, 2003, 08:23 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by Keith Forman : Actually, as bad as the Captain America movies were, Dr. Strange was far worse, as were the early Spiderman movies with Parker Stevenson. Then, you had the Hulk movies that introduced Daredevil and Thor. Those were AWFUL! -->>>

I liked those Hulk TV movies when I was 12.

Then, I turned 13 and came to my senses and got into quality films (and filmmaking), like THE THING and AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON.

heath

Rob Lohman
July 25th, 2003, 09:41 AM
Now you know there is only one good superhero comic movie,
right? ...... SHREK! <grin>

Robert Mann Z.
July 26th, 2003, 08:25 PM
i wasn't going to comment because i'm not a fan of comic books or batman, but being huge fan of the alien movies i have to say that was incredible...the best thing on the web i have ever seen (the next closes thing was that ping pong matrix spoof)...when worlds combine reality heightens for me... i feel using existing icons of fantasy and having them battle to death brings the ever question of vs to an answer...

i want to thank who ever posted this here you made my night...