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Ted OMalley
August 8th, 2008, 05:47 PM
I already had an Anton-Bauer Dionic 90 battery from my JVC HD100, and I decided I’d like to use it on the Sony EX3 since it is rated for 6.33 continuous hours of shooting on a single charge – considerably more than the 4.5 hours it gave my JVC. If I didn’t already own this, I think I’d just have purchased the Swit battery from B&H and extended the cord. But, I felt like a DIY project and chose this route instead!

First, I removed the cheek guard that I’d installed upon receipt of the camera. It just seemed, looked, and felt cheap and it wasn’t really doing me any good. I shot a short film with it off and decided not to put it back on. This left two nice threaded holes in the base of the EX3 completely open and unused and since the plastic was about 1/16” thick, I knew it would accommodate that without preventing the shoulder pad from locking shut.

All I needed was one more point – near the top of the camera, to mount my adapter plate assembly, so I chose to use the rear strap bracket. This is the little black piece of metal that you can use to run the included Sony shoulder strap through. I can’t imaging ever using that strap, so this bracket became my third mounting point.

My goals were:
• Use Dionic 90 battery
• Mount it at the rear – not the bottom, on a belt, or on the top – for positive weight distribution
• Keep cold shoe open and usable for hard drive in the future
• Keep all of the rear jacks accessible
• Avoid damaging or defacing the camera – must be refersible.

First, I tried making a hook for the upper bracket from some aluminum I have. My thought was to “hang” the assembly on that hook and screw it under the shoulder pad. Though I did manage to cut, bend, and file a piece of aluminum to the right size and shape, I could tell that it was no longer very strong. I browsed the hardware aisle at the local hardware store and found a package of heavy duty steel picture hangers. With a little effort, I straightened and bent one of them and then riveted it to the existing Anton-Bauer base plate.

Ted OMalley
August 8th, 2008, 05:48 PM
Later, I found it necessary to cut off the tail of the hook right next to the rivet.

The next step was the base that connects to the camera. I purchase a piece of 2” by 2” by 1/16” thick angle aluminum. It was fairly easy to work with – cut it with metal shears and used a file on the edges. This is the shape I needed, the two screw holes are for the screw holes that the cheek guard used to use.

Ted OMalley
August 8th, 2008, 05:50 PM
So, after quite a bit of filing to remove any burrs and smooth all the edges and corners, it was time to assemble the pieces. I chose to paint the bracket only after everything was done and tested, because I knew this was going to take a little adjusting and changing as I went along (like cutting down the hook!). I assembled with more rivets – I like rivets. They are easy, strong, unobtrusive, paintable, and did I mention I like them?

And then it was time to test fit...

In the third pic, you can see the hook. I’m only testing it right now, after painting it, I placed heat-shrink tubing over it heated it so that it would fit snugly in the bracket without rattling or scratching paint.

Ted OMalley
August 8th, 2008, 05:52 PM
First, I built a small DC power lead using the Radio Shack “D” Adaptaplug, and extension cable, some protective braiding, and more heat-shrink.

Next, I drilled though the bracket and, since I didn’t feel like making another trip to Radio Shack for the strain-relief I forgot, I just used plastic zip ties on either side of the hole after I ran the lead through it. Time to paint!! I recommend cleaning, priming, and painting two coats.

Finally, after double-checking polarity, I soldered the wires together using more heat-shrink to prevent any possible shorting. (I think I like heat shrink as much as I do rivets!)

Ted OMalley
August 8th, 2008, 05:53 PM
Prior to assembly, since there is quite a bit of metal in the base, I chose to add an insulating layer. A piece of thin plastic would do the trick, so I used an Letter-sized sheet of plastic (used as a cover or back page for reports, etc. – bought a pack of the stuff at Staples a couple years ago). The first picture is of the “cut to fit” version with holes punched out for the screws.

Not pictured is the hole for the wiring. I forgot to do this in advance, so I had to slice it all the way through so I could get it on there without taking the wiring apart. That was annoying. So, in case you are following step-by-step and the same thing has happened to you, I apologize. The second picture shows it assembled.

Ted OMalley
August 8th, 2008, 05:54 PM
So, now with a pair of screws, it goes on the camera.

The screws alone hold everything in place all by themselves, but the top could flex and move if it weren’t for the hook.

Oops, forgot to put the heat-shrink on the hook – have to take it off the camera again to do it!

Ted OMalley
August 8th, 2008, 05:55 PM
Here’s the final product with the battery. I’ve also added my custom receiver mount to the other side that supports either one or two wireless receivers – I made that for the last camera and used it a bunch. It attaches to the existing holes on the AB bracket that are designed to hold, you guessed it, a wireless mic!

I accomplished all my goals. The balance is superior both front to back (no longer front heavy – even with that Sony WA adapter on the front). Left and right, the balance is improved as well since the AB battery is offset quite a bit to the right. I used to have to really hold my wrist back if my left hand wasn’t on the camera. Now, it settles into the heel of my right hand much more nicely.

Maybe this will help someone else – really only takes part of a day to do it.

Bob Grant
August 8th, 2008, 06:18 PM
Ted,
great effort. Amazing what you can do with a hacksaw, vice, a few files and a drill press. Rivets are great, will never shake loose. I also use rivet nuts but the tool for inserting them is expensive, good investment though. I make a trip every so often to an aluminium fabricator and grab all manner of extrusions from their scrap bin for scrap metal prices. You never know when that odd looking extrusion will come in handy. A jig saw with a metal cutting blade can save a sore arm if there's a lot of cutting involved.

Just a heads up. Those brick batteries can deliver a lot of current under fault conditions. I couldn't really see how you'd wired into the AB plate so just make certain you haven't bypassed the fuse if there's one. If not I'd add one even if it's a soldered in one. If you do solder one in, more heatshrink, I love the stuff too. I bought a cheap hot air gun made for paint stripping to shrink it with. I find hitting it with a quick blast of very hot air reduces the risk of melting other parts.

Ted OMalley
August 8th, 2008, 07:00 PM
Bob,

Thanks for the input.

Actually, the only difference between this and the AB supplied for the JVC camera, is that they converted the 14.4V supply down to 7.2V and added a dummy battery block to connect to the pins in the battery compartment - no fuses were bypassed or removed.

Basically, it's like running the camera off a D-Tap - except that there is still a free D-Tap!

This is essentially what you get if you buy the Gold Mount for the EX1/3 from AB, but they mount theirs under the camera and I didn't want to do that. Would totaly get in the way when I add rails and my 35mm adapter!

Justin Benn
August 9th, 2008, 05:40 AM
Excellent work!

Jus.

Ned Soltz
August 9th, 2008, 07:21 AM
Great work, Ted.

And I'm certain that if you wanted to make a few of those commercially, you might find some buyers!

Brian Chow
August 9th, 2008, 11:52 PM
I want one! I also have the AB mount from my JVC HD100. What a great job you've done. I've been looking around for an AB mount especially since I use the powertap for my frezzi light. I normally have a light and hard drive plugged into my AB mount.


Brian

Ted OMalley
August 11th, 2008, 12:04 AM
I'm going to talk to someone about making these - hopefull will post more info soon.

Greg Boston
August 12th, 2008, 08:10 AM
A word of caution to those would-be DIY'ers. Make sure you use the proper grinding material for soft metals such as aluminum. Very important if you use a motorized grinder. Soft metals will clog up a grind stone meant for hard metals and can cause the stone to come apart while spinning at high speed. That is usually never a good thing.

Well done Ted. And a note to Bob....

Most of the AB adapter plates such as this have an internal fuse, not to mention all the newer batteries (esp Dionics) have internal protection from over current. I found this out when trying to run a 50 watt camera light on my F350. The Dionic didn't like the high current draw from cam and light and shut itself down.

-gb-

Ted OMalley
August 12th, 2008, 04:12 PM
A word of caution to those would-be DIY'ers. Make sure you use the proper grinding material for soft metals such as aluminum. Very important if you use a motorized grinder. Soft metals will clog up a grind stone meant for hard metals and can cause the stone to come apart while spinning at high speed. That is usually never a good thing.

Greg,

I agree with you on this one wholeheartedly - happened to someone I knew many years ago! On the other hand, using a metal file and elbow grease (which is what I did) gets old fast! That's why I'm looking for a metal shop that can just build them for people and I can back away from the manufacturing business - not a hobby I'm interested in pursuing as a career!

Ted OMalley
August 21st, 2008, 08:12 AM
In case you are interested...

I've been speaking with Bebob in Germany about this. They actually had already begun designing a battery mount for the EX3. In a conversation I had with Pierre this morning, he indicated that by Monday he should be able to provide an availability date and pricing.

So, hold on to your AB and IDX batteries and wireless receivers just a little longer - there is a solution coming soon! It should handle either battery, have a spot for a receiver, and have several power taps for lights, etc.

Bob Hart
August 21st, 2008, 09:01 AM
Ted.


A problem with the JVC I am sure you are aware of, is the added stress of the battery mass on the camera structure which loosens the JVC carry handle and can loosen or shear those little top screws.

Your solution is more robust through having wider spacing between screw centres but with the screws bedded into plastic casework, a decent thump may rock the screws in their holes and crack the casework.

With the JVC, I have used some dobs of non hardening white silicone bathroom sealer around out edges of the dummy battery insert and two small very thin patches of contact adhesive where the threaded pillars butt up beneath the upper fold of the JVC V-mount battery support.

Non-hardening sealer would provide considerable added resistance against your sheetmetal sliding under impact and sideloading the two lower screws, but will tear way if you need to take the battery mount off. The right-hand lower screw will be particularly vulnerable with the left screw and upper anchor point being natural pivot points in a rear impact.

Given a recent report of failure of the internal lower metal frame of a Z1 from handle carries with heavy objects attached to the tripod mount, I would be inclined to examine the making of a support plate. It would reach from the existing tripod mount as one attachment point, back to your proposed battery mount and include its own tripod mount holes, small and large while you are about it and also at a better balance point.

Don't take too much notice of me. I am a bit of a nitpicker. Otherwise, good work.

Ted OMalley
August 21st, 2008, 12:59 PM
Actually, I've been looking into just that for an entirely different set of reasons. I really want a shoulder brace with counterweight, and this device will be attached to the tripd mount, and provide it's own tripod mount further back.

Slava Kouznetsov
August 22nd, 2008, 11:09 AM
Hi Ted, I know nothing about electricity and I was afraid to use my Swit battery S-8160A 14.4V 190Wh on my EX1. It is a very long lasting battery - even on my previously owned JVC DV-500 it would run for 9 hrs. So on EX1 I believe it will run even longer. I don't need my battery last that long for the camera but I have a Swit SC-2000 sungun as well and in this case sungun will use battery power when I need it. My question to you - can I safely use my
Swit battery with EX1? Thanks in advance.

Ned Soltz
August 22nd, 2008, 12:12 PM
Actually, I've been looking into just that for an entirely different set of reasons. I really want a shoulder brace with counterweight, and this device will be attached to the tripd mount, and provide it's own tripod mount further back.

I have long been a user and fan of the DVMultirig Pro and it actually works quite nicely with the EX3. It certainly would be possible to mount an A-B (or V-mount, for that matter) on the multirig and just extend a cable to the DC-in. I would have some definite concerns about this and would feel much more confident having the power secured by locking XLR rather than by gaffers tape. My true idea remains some kind of on-camera mount, which is why I would love to see your mount go commercial.

This is the principle behind the A-B stasis shoulder rig.

But having shot my HVX with firewire cable dangling to the Firestore mounted to the DVMultiRig, I really prefer a solution which keeps battery on camera even if it must connect to the AC-in.

Mike Chandler
October 11th, 2008, 10:17 AM
Ted--looks like AB liked your work...
Anton/Bauer Introduces Battery Mount for Sony PMW-EX3 | HD/Studio (http://www.studiodaily.com/hdstudio/currentissue/10013.html)

Erik Phairas
October 11th, 2008, 10:26 AM
Must drive Sony nuts when they go to all the trouble of ripping us off only to have someone find a way around it.. LOL

Ted OMalley
October 11th, 2008, 11:02 AM
Ted--looks like AB liked your work...
Anton/Bauer Introduces Battery Mount for Sony PMW-EX3 | HD/Studio (http://www.studiodaily.com/hdstudio/currentissue/10013.html)

Yeah, that's funny. It is nearly identical to what I build and am currently using! What can I say, it's a good design. Great minds... LOL!

Robert Bale
October 15th, 2008, 09:22 PM
Hi ted, my battery (AB) when tested puts out 16.8vt fully charged, is that the same as yours, just worried about conecting it to the camera. EX3

Ted OMalley
October 15th, 2008, 09:55 PM
Mine reads 16.9 when fully charged. I've never had any problems with it. There is more information about this here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/816766-post7.html