Aloha Ross
i received the confirmation of my order. please disregard the message i left on your business phone before the pages went up.
i was wondering if you had tried the MXR with any of the Sandisk Ultra III or IV cards.
1) i don't know if they would fit
2) will they record at a higher bitrate
thought i would get the question out so it might be included on your FAQ page when you have time to develop it more.
looking forward to receiving my MXR
i was glad to read that they would work with the 8GB card, they are cheap now
tito

Tito, All the SDHC cards are physically same size, it wouldn't be standard if the size varied by model. Higher class cards won't allow higher bitrate in this case because the bitrate is limited by reader/camera itself.

What remarkable timing. I just received confirmation from eXpansys that my Kensington adaptors have shipped. Seems there was another batch manufactured as promised. Looks like I'll have enough adaptors to keep me going for a while.

Hi Ross,

Sent you a few emails, but did not get a reply, i know you must be busy, so i am posting this in hope you see it, can you add me into the australian list of buyers,
robert@rpbproductions.com i am wanting 2 more cards. thanks.

Ross,

I also sent an e-mail - can you please add me to the list of Australian enquiries - and let me know the Aussie dollar price with shipping up the road to Newcastle.

Much appreciated.

Yes Bob - my coincidence Kensington adaptor also shipped today. Amazing that!

Hi Ross...

Same here... there should be an email from me as well, but thought I'd post here as a confirmation .... 6 for shipment down to Canberra please!! :)

R.

Care to explain your workflow abit? i've tried a number of different readers and cant get anything quicker than 0.9x transfer speed.

Make a folder on my external drive, ie wedding xyz.
I use the transcend cards and transcend sdhc>usb reader.
Put card into reader into usb socket.
Open clip browser.
Copy files to folder xyz.
Takes about 15 mins to offload a 16gb card.
This external drive is connected via usb so there is the usb bottleneck involved.
I then copy the next card into the same folder, i use the drop and drag in clip browser 2, ie drag from top window (card) to bottom window (folder).
One i've copied all the cards from the days shoot into that folder i then open the folder and rewrap the whole folder/footage in one go onto my other hard drive ready for editing, so now i have 2 copies of footage, one original with the bapv and one ready for editing, for safety reasons.

When i was using the sony sxs card, offloading into my laptop express slot onto my laptop hard drive ( so no usb bottleneck anywhere) i was getting about 10x tranfer speed, 3 mins for a full 8gb card.


Paul.

Hi Ross,

Sent you a few emails, but did not get a reply, i know you must be busy, so i am posting this in hope you see it, can you add me into the australian list of buyers,
robert@rpbproductions.com i am wanting 2 more cards. thanks.

Hi Robert,

We were surprised by the reaction in Australia, and were caught a bit off guard. Sorry about that. Won't make that mistake again.

We'll have a special page for Australian orders going up tomorrow, (Tuesday), as soon as our web developer can put it up which will allow either Paypal in Australian Dollars or Direct Transfer to our bank account.

I've personally resisted the credit card thing in our wedding business, I just can't see the sense in giving Visa 4% of either our clients or our money. But hey that's just me. So we don't have credit card facilities set up at present, although the new ecommerce system has a gateway to credit cards, and with the number of people looking for it we will have to set it up.

We'll be sending out invoices with payment details tomorrow for everyone who has ordered by email and expect to ship ex Sydney for Australia on Monday and Tuesday, so that will be in time for Christmas.

Thanks again or the support, and keep a watch on the website at E-Films (http://www.e-films.com.au) we will be updating it some new ideas we are currently working on. ( As soon as I learn how to work the blog! ).

Tito, All the SDHC cards are physically same size, it wouldn't be standard if the size varied by model. Higher class cards won't allow higher bitrate in this case because the bitrate is limited by reader/camera itself.

Tuomas
thank you for the answers
the questions came from looking at the recording rates for my Sony EX-1

HQ captures full 1920 x 1080 images, or 1280 x 720 images, at 35Mbps.
SP mode captures 1440 x 1080 images @ 25Mbps

and comaping them to sandisk recording speeds

sandisk ultra II "Minimum of 10MB/second"
sandisk ultra III "Fast minimum speeds of 30MB/second"
sandisk ultra IV "read/write speed of 45MB/second"

so 35MB/second can be handled by the sandisk ultr II and the faster minimum rates of the II and IV are not needed?

thanks
tito

Mb = Megabits
MB = Megabytes
8 bits to 1 byte

In other words
8 Mb = 1 MB (more or less but I won't go there).

Basically 35Mbps is about 4.3MBs

Actually, the minimum for SanDisk Ultra II SDHC is 15MB/s.

Thanks Craig, duh, i should have caught that.

Actually, the minimum for SanDisk Ultra II SDHC is 15MB/s.
MIcrocenter has those right now for $49.99 if you have one near you.

Micro Center - Ultra II 16GB SDHC High Performance Card (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0286249)

John

Alright Ross, just got approved for a couple of these bad boys. Order coming from FL soon!

Hi Ross,

I orderd 2 cards and payed with paypal on 14/12/08. What do you think, when could the cards be in germany?

Thanks

Volker Ide

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With the new possibility to write back to the camera/SxS card (for Mac at least), could we now start to use SDHC cards as masters and backups as well?
At least shorter projects?

Certainly easier to stack and store than hard disks.

With the new possibility to write back to the camera/SxS card (for Mac at least), could we now start to use SDHC cards as masters and backups as well?
At least shorter projects?

Certainly easier to stack and store than hard disks.

I can't seem to get this import stuff to work on my PC. Any tips?

At this point it would seem you can only send back to the camera with the Transfer Software plugin for FCP. I've asked Avid folks about this capability and it's "on the wish list." Don't hold yer breath.

With these cards I can avoid the laptop on many more shoots where it's inconvenient. If I want to shoot 720p50, I would have to use the SxS cards, don´t I? Is it possible to copy this footage to MxR Expresscard, within the camera?

If I want to shoot 720p50, I would have to use the SxS cards, don´t I?

No. You only need SxS for overcrank.

That is good. Thanks, Perrone!

With the new possibility to write back to the camera/SxS card (for Mac at least), could we now start to use SDHC cards as masters and backups as well?
At least shorter projects?

Certainly easier to stack and store than hard disks.


At risk of sounding very ignorant I need to ask you guys this question: why we should use SxS or SDHC as a backup storage? Why we cannot use ANY external (or even internal) SATA HDs for this purpose? Today 1.5 TB cost nothing and give you "unlimited" storage capacity. If you wish to increase reliability of your backup system, buy two 1.5 TBs and use them in parallel. The probability that both HDs would go out of service is practically speaking equal to "0". So, what is the problem?

because the best backup you can get, is the original to keep.
that was de facto the case with tapes, but with expensive cards, you need to make a copy (with all the risks) and that takes a lot of time and require expensive equipement (a laptop)
if you can shoot on SDHC and keep the card , that is the best workflow.

If you wish to increase reliability of your backup system, buy two 1.5 TBs and use them in parallel. The probability that both HDs would go out of service is practically speaking equal to "0". So, what is the problem?
That's assuming that the only reliability risk is equipment failure, in practical terms I suspect human error in doing the transfer is a far more significant risk, especially if it's being done in the field and in a hurry to free up space for recording. All that chance for error goes away if the backup is the original recording, and as far as economics goes, a download on set workflow sometimes means an extra man - his wages will pay for quite a few SDHC cards.

In regular short term use, then the HDs you talk off are indeed very unlikely to fail simultaneously. But I believe HDs don't like long periods of non-use. If you relied on them for long term storage and didn't access the material for several years, the chances of neither of them working become significant.

Even if SDHC cards aren't used as a very long term backup, their cheapness relative to SxS and P2 means that they may at least be kept as the backup until the project is completed and a master derived, even if they are then formatted and reused. There's no way you could viably do that with P2 or SxS.

... Even if SDHC cards aren't used as a very long term backup, their cheapness relative to SxS and P2 means that they may at least be kept as the backup until the project is completed and a master derived, even if they are then formatted and reused. There's no way you could viably do that with P2 or SxS.

As you said "at least be kept as the backup until the project is completed" I do not know what projects (Length wise) you guys are working on, but in my case (TV commercials) project length is usually does not exceed 3 months. So it is not a problem for me to keep my backups on INTERNAL hard drives (that are always in use when my Mac is turned on).
Moreover, those SATA drives are mirrored, so storing info in one automatically is mirrored to another one.
And, by the way if downloaded data in your editing media storage is good, so the same data being stored in your backup HDs, also should be good.
Considering how inexpensive SDHC cards are, one should be able to afford a bunch of them to be available in the shooting field to cover whole shooting period. Unless you couldn't get back to your studio for downloading during the considrable time priod. But If shooting is so long, in this case I assume that you working not exactly on low budget project and it looks like it worth additional investment to buy another bunch of SDHCs.
Am I wrong?

Thank you! I just purchased two myself. I will let you know how it works!

12/17/2008 2:26pm PayPal still won't take my order? same problem again?

Thank you,
Mike

12/17/2008 2:26pm PayPal still won't take my order? same problem again?

Thank you,
Mike

Mike, there seems to be a problem with the script rather than Paypal blocking. If you try and order by express delivery ( the right hand side) it works fine.

trouble is I want to order standard delivery!

Just ordered one now. Seems to work again...

Just ordered one now. Seems to work again...

Hi Krikor,

That was my fault. I asked the web designer to get rid of this funny line on the right of the page, it was just a cosmetic fix, but for some reason it interracted with the rest of the code, and bingo it stopped working.

He fixed it as soon as someone reported it, to us.

What a great occupation, you can make mistakes, and you just shrug your shoulders, not like us. We make a mistake, and pay for it for a long, long time.

Try missing the vows or the Best man's speech.

Hi Ross,

Do you have the Australia order process works out yet?

I am want to order 2 cards please. Can u send me an invoice.

Thanks rob.

Robert,

It is in place - I have ordered a few myself - just go to the Australian orders section. It is even in Aussie dollars!!

Thanks Graeme, it helps to hit refresh on my brouser, LOL.

Hi Ross,

are we on schedule?
Today is 19th. Did you have chance to start shipping the cards?

Dear Ross,

I've ordered and paid for two cards on the 16th of December, yet receive the Order confirmation only today - does it mean I didn't make it for the 19th shipment? If so, when do you plant the next one (I'm in Poland)?

Again congrats, and my Best Christmas Wishes to you!

Piotr

I ordered a Reader via paypal last week. Will there be some notification when shipped?

Bob

Dear Ross,

I've ordered and paid for two cards on the 16th of December, yet receive the Order confirmation only today - does it mean I didn't make it for the 19th shipment? If so, when do you plant the next one (I'm in Poland)?

Again congrats, and my Best Christmas Wishes to you!

Piotr

Dear Piotr,

Thanks for your message.

We tried to send you a confirmation on the 16th through to the 19th of December, but the server kept sending back as undeliverable. But we dispatched with the others anyway, figuring it was just a server issue of some kind.

It's certainly made the order people happy that we are able to tell you this, as the email was our only contact.

Thanks for your purchase, I hope they work out great for you.

I ordered a Reader via paypal last week. Will there be some notification when shipped?

Bob

Hi Bob, thanks for the message.

We clear all confirmation of orders in under 24 hours.

If it went through Paypal, we will already have sent you confirmation to the email address they gave us. Could you either post or PM me the quantity, the exact name and address of the Addressee, and the approximate time of placing the order, so we can track it for you.

Hi,I've ordered through Paypal and Express Courier (EMS), 4cards on the 18th of December, tomorow morning ( 8h from now, i have communicate with courier ) i will receive my order from Ε.Λ.Τ.Α ( greek courier).im waiting to test the cards, because If It All Goes Righ , i will save 2000 euros =
sony sxs 32gb (2x 1000 ) = 2000 euros.Tomorow night i will tell you the resultst!!!

I.'ll add my congratulations to Ross as well for his efforts and courage in taking on this achievement !!!!!!!!!



thanks again Ross !!!

Hi,I've ordered through Paypal and Express Courier (EMS), 4cards on the 18th of December, tomorow morning ( 8h from now, i have communicate with courier ) i will receive my order from Ε.Λ.Τ.Α ( greek courier).im waiting to test the cards, because If It All Goes Righ , i will save 2000 euros =
sony sxs 32gb (2x 1000 ) = 2000 euros.Tomorow night i will tell you the resultst!!!

I.'ll add my congratulations to Ross as well for his efforts and courage in taking on this achievement !!!!!!!!!



thanks again Ross !!!


Γειά σου στον αδελφό μου στην Ελλάδα,

That's better then me trying to spell Calimera calli. Hey Tasos, I remember writing your parcel by hand, and wondering after all the Greek weddings I've done, gee it would be nice to see where all those Kalamatianos, and Zebebica come from.

Thanks for the order and I hope you have a great time testing, just don't forget to celebrate Christmas.

Γειά σου στον αδελφό μου στην Ελλάδα,

That's better then me trying to spell Calimera calli. Hey Tasos, I remember writing your parcel by hand, and wondering after all the Greek weddings I've done, gee it would be nice to see where all those Kalamatianos, and Zebebica come from.

Thanks for the order and I hope you have a great time testing, just don't forget to celebrate Christmas.




HI Ross i have pick up the 4 cards today , the 3 works perfect!!!. i test and write more than 45 minutes at each one .
But 1 of the cards has a problem.the camera can't recognize the card and after that the camera closes and opens automatically . i put the card to the two slots and also the same think .( bad luck, but its o.k. mf . ) here is the link with the problem card.
RapidShare: Easy Filehosting (http://rapidshare.com/files/176081533/TEST.mpg)
YouTube - TEST (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cnwd3M6bfI)
i will send you back the card so the manufacture find the problem.send me a mail with the address where i will sent the card.



Thanks again Ross for your great work
Merry Christmas

HI Ross,

Got my two cards today - both personally tested by yourself.

Worked great. I will buy more later. Fantastic product.

Got the cards,
Everything works. Thanks Ross an the e-film team.

Regards
Simon

HI Ross i have pick up the 4 cards today , the 3 works perfect!!!. i test and write more than 45 minutes at each one .
But 1 of the cards has a problem.the camera can't recognize the card and after that the camera closes and opens automatically . i put the card to the two slots and also the same think .( bad luck, but its o.k. mf . ) here is the link with the problem card.
RapidShare: Easy Filehosting (http://rapidshare.com/files/176081533/TEST.mpg)
YouTube - TEST (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cnwd3M6bfI)
i will send you back the card so the manufacture find the problem.send me a mail with the address where i will sent the card.



Thanks again Ross for your great work
Merry Christmas


Hi Tasos,

I'm so disappointed that one of the cards didn't work for you first up. Did you happen to notice whether it had a sticker on the back that it was checked by me do you? If it did then it actually worked before it was packed in blister.

If it had no sticker on it, then that means it was not from the hand tested group. With a reject rate of 2 in 500 we figured it was just not worth checking every single card after the first 500, but better business sense, just to RMA them back in and replace them.

So Tasos, you get to be the first one. Just write on the card the RMA number we issue you with, put it in some bubble wrap to protect it, and include your name and address details.

As soon as you tell us that the package is in the mail we’ll send out a replacement immediately. The replacement will come in opened blister because we will hand test it to make sure nothing goes wrong with it. A company I used to work for in NZ while I at University that sold white and brown goods, had a slogan, "It's the putting right that counts", they believed that all mechanical items will fail, and it's what happens next that rally counts.

I'll test if with my own camera, and if we still have a problem, I'll send it back to the engineers to examine, but either way you should have received a replacement by the time our tes

So Tasos you get to be RMA 001.

We don't think there will be 999 RMA's, but we thought it would be funny for someone to end up with "007".

All the best for the season.

Hi Ross
Just tested the cards everything works ok

Brian

Hi Ross,
I apologize if this was already asked in here:
Have you tried this Card: SanDisk Video HD SDHC 16GB

Cheers mate,

Ofer Levy Nature Photographer (http://www.oferlevyphotography.com)

The cards arrived today to the UK all the way from Hong Kong. Even better news is no import duty or VAT!!!!! They somehow managed to slip through. Two weeks ago I got two Delkins which stung me for a further £15 so this time its nice to get away with it.

I actually haven't got any SDHC cards to test them as I am waiting on a delivery of a couple of 32Gb Ultra 11's which are dure out in the New Year.

Thanks for the very fast service.

Dear Ross, just to let you know:
the cards arrived in Berlin in time, are now in Chile with me, and work perfectly with 16GB Transcend level 6 cards. Fantastic!
Hope you get your problems with payapall sorted out, what a nightmare.
Greetings and merry christmas!
Atilio

Ross... just read about problems with Paypal... can I still put my order (to USA) safely ?? just to be sure....

Kind regards and Merry Christmas

Enrique

Hi Ross, received my 3 cards today.. working flawlessly... have a bavarian beer now...
to your health! fantastic achievement :-) Hopefully can turn up in Sydney soon for some
Crowns. Thank you so much :-)

Silent Christmas

K.P.