I own the HD10, and have used it recently on a promo I produced for the TV station I work at in Tampa FL.
Shot in HD, down converted to uncompressed QuickTime in After Effects, edited in Uncompressed Digital on the Affinity Atmosphere.

The results were amazing! Looked very much like any other news image spot shot on film. The format allowed me to do significant amount of composting and color correction.

Here's something for all the people who "dis" this cam, I work with shooters who are at the top of the news game. Every one of them drooled over my camera. The images coming from this are nothing like the ones coming from our top of the line 3CCD Beta SX cameras.

Cool man! I know it's a lot to ask, but can we drool over the promo you mention? How about a post?? Pretty please!

I'm sure Chris Hurd would post it...we'll use it to shutup all the negative remarks regarding the HD10u.

Thanks!! Congrads on your success too!

Murph

I would love to show it off, I am in the process of getting approval from my station to do just that.

Bob,

Thanks for the positive post! I look forward to viewing you're footage.

Troy

Bob,

What station in Tampa? I work at WPTV in West Palm Beach, and our sister station is the ABC in Tampa.

heath

I am the Senior Promotion Producer for Scripps WFTS ABC ACTION NEWS.... TAKING ACTION FOR YOU!

Before that ... WDTN, Dayton, OH "Your Weather Station"
Before that ... WRIC, Richmond, VA "Making A Difference"
Before that... KEYT, Santa Barbara, CA "Your Key to Breaking News."

(can you tell I'm a promo guy? :))

I noticed that you worked in state. What's your line?

In NH at WMUR-TV I did promos...the line:

"No One Knows New Hampshire Like We Do."

www.wmur.com

We're getting off topic :-) but I do promos currently. We work for the same company, Bob! Scripps!

I've pitched an idea to do a spot for my station in HDV, but they're still iffy. I'll probably do it at home.

heath

I'm very lucky here, the let me try new things all the time.
Did you work under Bob Jordan? I know he was a hard nosed kid of guy, but he was news director here when I came on board, and I really liked him.
- Bob

I'll email you privately.

What did you cut on with the HD10?

heath

My production workflow went like this.

1. Shoot master footage at station.
2. Head home and digitize footage with HD capture utility.
3. Trim shots in MPEG Edit Studio.
4. Convert video steam to uncompressed AVI, convert audio to WAV
5. Create Graphics in Adobe Illustrator / Photoshop
6. Composite graphics over uncompressed clips in After Effects
7. Render converted clips to720x486 "letter boxed" to uncompressed quicktime.
8. burn these files to CD Rom
9. Return to station to edit the clips together in Accom Affinity (i mistakenly said Atmosphere before)
10. Suiten audio in Pro-Tools
11. Send to air.

Let you Creative services director know what we;ve done here in Tampa, and the positive results we're having.

What about chroma noise? It's bad on a short film I did.

heath

I had absolutley no problems. The key may have been the lighting. I underexposed just a hair and lit with a nice soft riffa light from an almost head on direction. I used no fill, and a slight amber tinted backlight. I find the more I shoot with this, that if you treat it like a film camera rather than a video camera, youre results will be better. I even did some substatial color correction to the clip with no trouble at all.
I hoping to post the "beore and after" clips to show how a litle color correction can go a long way.

I am considering purchasing a JY-Hd10 for our production department. We currently use Sony Beta SX cameras, and the JY will be a supplemental camera. I've seen video shot with his camera, and it was very impressive.
I'm still unclear on how to capture the video into our editing systems. I understand it isn't yet possible on a Mac based editor. What about pc-based AVID Media Composers? We can import uncompressed video.
And what exactly is a "HD capture utility?"
Does the video come through on a firewire connection?
Is there a particular editing format anyone can recommend?
How about shooting in HD, but digitizing the video in DV?

I've been reading this forum for months, and I'm still confused.

BTW, JVC is finally releasing a player/recorder for this camera's HD tapes. It should be out within a few months, if not already.

The HD Capture utility is a little software program that allows you to digitize the HD MPEG footage from your camera (firewire link) into your hard drive. While the mechanics of this step are similar to DV capture, the actual process is very different.

You can also down convert on the fly to NTSC directly into your avid via the analog outputs. However if you can convert the digitized clips into quicklime or AVID files, you can use them on any platform with an effects compositor like after effects. Premiere will take the clips and re-size them for NTSC, I do not now about final cut pro.

Hey Bob, any word on posting that promo video for us to drool over?

Murph

I need to propose this to my boss...

I'll do it right now!

heath

I too am a promotion producer who just ordered the HD10U for my own personal use and am curious to see the results of your promo.

I would really love to be able to use the camera for on-air projects. (Unfortunately because of union restrictions, I'm not sure if it will be possible for ME to shoot footage with the camera.)

I was curious about on thing that you said.. Does the image really look comparable to film? We shoot a lot of image spots on 35mm and I'd love to be able to compare the two.

I haven't receive my camera yet so I haven't been able to do any comparison on my own.

Looking forward to seeing the images.

-Chris Gordon
Promo Producer
KABC-TV Los Angeles

You got me beat, in the # 2 market. I'm in #39! ;-)

I wouldn't say it's comparable to 35 mm, but it's great, under fantastic lighting conditions. Avoid darkly lit scenes, because it's showing up with chroma noise (as seen on my short film, which I'll have pix up soon, sorry for the delay).

My boss in Creative Services is going to let me do a promo on the HD10 after sweeps. I'm too focused on what we're teasing right now.

heath

<<<-- Originally posted by Glen Vandermolen :
I understand it isn't yet possible on a Mac based editor.

There are several solutions for editing JVC HD material on the Mac.
Paul Mogg has the most concise low cost workflow explained in this thread http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16812
Hueris has a expensive (~$5000.00) method for the Mac but will have a under $500.00 package out soon.

"And what exactly is a "HD capture utility?"

All of the current solutions that I know of do not allow for capture within the NLE so you need to use a either the program that came with the software or virtualDVHS on the PC or DVHSCap on the Mac

Does the video come through on a firewire connection?
Yes in mpeg2 transport streams using a "HD capture utility".

Is there a particular editing format anyone can recommend?

People seem to like Cineform's solution for the Premiere on the PC, do a search for cineform here and you will get lots of information, David Newman who works for cineform contributes quite a bit to the board.
-->>>

<<<-- Originally posted by Glen Vandermolen :

I've been reading this forum for months, and I'm still confused. -->>>

Glen,

What are you confused about?

heath

<<<-- Originally posted by Heath McKnight : <<<-- Originally posted by Glen Vandermolen :

I've been reading this forum for months, and I'm still confused. -->>>

Glen,

What are you confused about?

heath -->>>

Heath,

Mainly about how to import the HD video into a non-linear editing system. We currently use AVID Media Composer 1000s, in both PC and Apple systems. There seems to be many issues surrounding editing the HD video. My strongest skills are in videography. I've had the full-time editors at our shop read some of the postings in this forum to see if we can make HD work. So far, it's rather inconclusive.
Also, I was under the impression that you could shoot in HD mode and digitize the video in DV mode, making it easier to edit, with the trade-off being a drop in resolution. It's true that in both video and film, the better the image's original acquisition, the better it will look down the line. Now I understand downconverting HD to DV isn't possible with the HD10.

As a videographer, the thought of shooting in HD is exciting. Imagine that li'l ol' $3,000 camera having better resolution than my $45,000 Beta SX rig. I recently purchased a HD tv set. Man, I'd love to see the images I can shoot with the HD10 on my tv.

Post up those editing questions in our HDV Editing section!

heath