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Alexis Vazquez
February 27th, 2004, 02:04 PM
I'm using the TFT Audio thing also for hanging the 5.5" TFT Monitor
I found it very useful when in tripod mode.
Take a look, let me know what you think.

http://www.audiovisuallab.com/xl1s.htm

G. Randy Brown
February 29th, 2004, 09:56 AM
Is that the Nebtek50XL per chance?
TIA,
Randy
Edit: on closer inspection I can see that it's not, but I wonder if anyone can tell me if the Nebtek50XL will mount to the MA 200 without a shoe mount.
TIA,
Randy

Alexis Vazquez
February 29th, 2004, 10:45 AM
It is the NebTek50XL. It does not mount on the MA200. I made a special adapter for it. Thats why a post the pics. It looks like an identical part of the MA 200, but its not.

G. Randy Brown
February 29th, 2004, 10:50 AM
Will you elaborate on how you made it? I mean did you go down to the local salvage yard, buy some plate steel, cut to shape, drill holes, paint, etc or did you modify something pre-existing?
TIA,
Randy

Alexis Vazquez
February 29th, 2004, 11:26 AM
Randy:

Take a look at the original plate (the one that looks like an "L")
well, thats exactly what you need but with the space inverted (there goes the battery), the angle is also modified so it stays in a 90 degrees. I went to a machine shop. Its easier for them.

Im gonna try to load a pic of it alone.

AV

G. Randy Brown
February 29th, 2004, 12:39 PM
That would be great Alexis or just e-mail me a jpeg.
Thanks again,
Randy

G. Randy Brown
February 29th, 2004, 12:49 PM
Actually after studying the pics a little more I think I got it but I can't see how you attach the Nebtek to the L shaped plate...screws? The back of the Nebtek50XL (with the battery attachment in place) appears to only have some kind of slot in it...no place to screw in to. Of coarse it's hard to tell by just looking at the Nebtek website photos.
TIA,
Randy

Alexis Vazquez
February 29th, 2004, 01:55 PM
Randy
When I came with this idea I ask the guy from the machine shop to build something similar to the original pieces that came with tha MA200 (I think its for the dual battery adapter) I mean that little thing that goes in the slot, --I call that the male part-- so he build it.

I also saw something similar at RadioShack that comes to mount DVDs for cars. I think you can use it with the original plate, the only thing here is that the monitor is not going to be at 90 degrees .

The Monitor has that slot --wich I call the fem part-- with that male part --the one from Radio Shack--attached to the plate (I recomend to use screws not onle the adhesive tape it comes with) it will do the job. The reason I build it was to mantain the monitor at 90o.

I'm now thinking a way to design one with two or more pieces so that you can change the position of it. Remember that whith this kind of monitors you can't get a nice view when you're not exactly in front of it.

AV

Chris Hurd
February 29th, 2004, 02:14 PM
Alexis -- please email the images to me. I'll host 'em from the XL1 Watchdog site for all to see. Actually if you're willing to write a short how-to article on this, I'd love to add it to the XL1 Watchdog's articles library. You've done some excellent work there. Thanks,

Alexis Vazquez
February 29th, 2004, 02:33 PM
Thanks for your comments Chris. I will send them to you.

AV

G. Randy Brown
February 29th, 2004, 02:39 PM
Alexis,
You inspired me enough to jack around and find an excellent solution with hardly any modification:
Using the plate as is, take (unscrew) everything off. Screw the attachment with the double "knobs" on it, horizontally in the middle left (small) threads. Now you can mount it with a shoe mount (or anything with a shoe mount) to that and swivel your monitor anywhere you want it...works great here.
Randy

Alexis Vazquez
February 29th, 2004, 02:51 PM
LOL Send a pic. I'll love to see it!

Be carefull if you are working with the original plate, If you damage it I'm not sure Canon sells it alone. Thats why I went to the Machine Shop.

Luck

AV

Chris Hurd
February 29th, 2004, 02:59 PM
Randy, please email a copy of your pic to me so I can post it for others to look at. Well done -- thanks!

G. Randy Brown
February 29th, 2004, 03:36 PM
Chris, you've got mail (with .JPGs) : )
Randy

James Emory
February 29th, 2004, 05:03 PM
Hello Alexis. I noticed that the RCA video output is at the bottom of the row instead of at the top like on an XL-1. Is your camera an XL-1 or XL-1s? If it's an s model, why do you think they changed the location of the jack?

Alexis Vazquez
February 29th, 2004, 05:47 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by James Emory : Hello Alexis. I noticed that the RCA video output is at the bottom of the row instead of at the top like on an XL-1. Is your camera an XL-1 or XL-1s? If it's an s model, why do you think they changed the location of the jack? -->>>

I have no idea, Its an XL1s and Video is on the Bottom.

Alexis Vazquez
February 29th, 2004, 05:50 PM
Randy, don't forget to send me pics of your job.

Chris Hurd
March 1st, 2004, 12:44 AM
See Randy's images at:

http://www.dvinfo.net/media/withmon.jpg

and

http://www.dvinfo.net/media/withoutmon.jpg

Thanks!

Alexis Vazquez
March 1st, 2004, 07:17 AM
Well done Randy!

What monitor is that?

G. Randy Brown
March 1st, 2004, 08:25 AM
>>"What monitor is that?">>

It's the one that I whine about at

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?threadid=9117&perpage=30&pagenumber=2

at the bottom of the page. I would appreciate it if you could (or anyone else) comment on the Nebtek Alexis.
Thanks,
Randy

Chris Hurd
March 1st, 2004, 09:01 AM
Images from Alexis:

http://www.dvinfo.net/media/alexvxl1s0.jpg

http://www.dvinfo.net/media/alexvxl1s1.jpg

http://www.dvinfo.net/media/alexvxl1s2.jpg

http://www.dvinfo.net/media/alexvxl1s3.jpg

Much appreciated, AV!

James Emory
March 1st, 2004, 11:07 AM
Chris. Why is the composite video jack on the s model in a different location than on the standard model?

James Emory
March 1st, 2004, 11:15 AM
Randy. You have to include the url in these brackets without spaces within the brackets: [ url] actual url [ /url]

Chris Hurd
March 1st, 2004, 05:52 PM
James

I'm not sure why they switched those jack locations between the XL1 and XL1S.

Rob Lohman
March 2nd, 2004, 04:06 AM
http://www.dvinfo.net/canon/reports/xl1s-jbushey1.php

I think they probably moved it since yellow & white are hard to
keep apart and now you have both video connectors in one
place. I do find the new layout more logical.

That's a nice studio you have there Alexis! It would be nice if
you could add some pictures and info about it on this thread (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13127).

James Emory
March 2nd, 2004, 01:04 PM
Thanks Rob. I guess it does make sense to have both video jacks next to one another but why didn't they do that from the beginning? My next question is why didn't they include a video cable made into the pigtail from the MA-200 for that convenient BNC connector which is not so convenient as it is? What were they thinking? Where do I get a 6" RCA video cable for that patch?

Ed Frazier
March 2nd, 2004, 04:54 PM
I tried a couple of variations on the same type mount that Alexis has devised, but my work involves some extreme variation in tilt, making it hard to see the monitor. As I'm sure you are all aware, you really need to be looking at the thing at just the right angle to see a decent picture.

My solution was to mount the monitor to the tripod head. This way the monitor pans with the camera but does not tilt. There are a couple of pictures that show this mount here (http://www.highdesertracing.com/. Click on the pictures for a slightly larger view.

The mount is made from a piece of 1" strap steel that I found in the garage. I think it is about 1/8" thick. I bent it into an L shape, drilled a hole in the short part of the L for the mounting bolt and attached it to the bottom of the tripod head with a hose clamp. I added a bend just below the hose clamp to allow the bracket to clear the tripod legs (or mounting post in this case) and to also achieve the proper angle for viewing the monitor.

I've been using this set-up for two years now and it has worked very well. I have also fabricated a plexiglas box to house the camera in since the PB Rain Slicker just didn't keep enough of the dust and dirt out. Dirt track racing and windy Southwest deserts can produce a very extreme environment at times.

Alexis Vazquez
March 2nd, 2004, 07:20 PM
That's a nice studio you have there Alexis! It would be nice if
you could add some pictures and info about it on this thread (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13127). -->>>

Thanks Rob. I'll be adding more pics maybe tomorrow.

Ed, nice system, great idea.