This film was shot on the HD10U and edited with Final Cut Pro using Lumiere HD.

http://www.lumieremedia.com/hotelroom/

You can view stills and video clips.

Frederic and Pat: great lighting!

Cool! What about chroma noise? How did you fix that?

I also have some photos up from my shoot (still editing) here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22374

heath

Pat is a genius. He's one of a kind.

As far as chroma noise, well...we lived with it. We made sure to light properly and it really isn't that noticeable in motion.

I do wish that it was even less noticeable. Color correction helped a bit.

JVC is seriously considering making a 24p model of this camera, which by the way would have less artifacts because there is less data to store therefore better quality compression.

Really? Wow...We should talk more about this in the HD10 forum!

heath

Heath,

I recommended to them that it would be great to have a knowledgeable voice coming from JVC participate in these discussions.

They were very opened to this, or starting a forum of their own.

I will see if I could put you in touch with that person Heath, whomever this might be. Perhaps you could invite them to come and participate on your section.

Please pass this info along to me as well, Frederic... thanks!

Frederick - Although it is hard to judge the true scope of what you have shot being that I have only viewed the online highly compressed clips, all I can say is bravo!
It is clear you have a full understanding of how to get the most from this cam.
I agree with Alex, great lighting. Any tricks you can pass on to us, such as any cam settings or filters you found worked best? And thanks for the nice colour correction. Shows that the subtle colour saturation of the HD10 has tons of latitude in post.
Two thumbs up!
Ken

Heath,

Should we move this thread to your section?

It seems that the conversation is going to be focused on the camera vs. editing.

Yeah, go ahead and move it. I was thinking the same thing.

heath

Frederic, will the Lumiere HD be available for the PC environment.

Frederick - So, any tips on lighting or filters? Or are these Lumiere trade secrets?
PS - As nice as the visuals are, the audio bites.
Ken

Ken,

The only tip I really have regarding lighting is find a great Gaffer. Pat Blanckard is probably the best I've ever worked with and it shows. From setup to setup, he wouldn't let me adjust the iris but he would manipulate his setup whenever I felt it was too hot or too dark.

I used an ND filter for outside only.

During color correction, I darkened most of the shots and saturated the colors to create the club mood.

Regarding the audio, I am very surprised you don't think it's acceptable. I usually am very picky when it comes to audio and I was very pleased with the results. We recorded all the audio on DAT and synched it in FCP.

Good work Fred,

I have been out of discussions for a certain time because of a new job but I still come to see, from time to time. This is a very good display of the camera's possibilities. I always thought this camera could do very good for somebody who does understand it and you certainly do.

Way to go guys...

>>Regarding the audio, I am very surprised you don't think it's acceptable. I usually am very picky when it comes to audio and I was very pleased with the results. We recorded all the audio on DAT and synched it in FCP.<<

If I may...the dialogue track sounds clean to me, it maybe a lack of background ambience and music which is causing the audio track to come across as novice. As for the picture, it looks very good to me. It doesn't really have a "film look" but it doesn't look like traditional video, either. You can tell the quality is top notch either way, good job.

What were the lights in your arsenal? Very nice job:)

Betsy,

What about your film?

heath

If you are interested in downloading a 60MB clip in MPEG Transport Stream 720p go there:

http://www.lumieremedia.com/hotelroom/clips.htm

One small thing: I noticed, near the end of your HiDef clip, the woman's glass passes down through the lower right shot of the man. In the next shot, the woman still has the glass up to her mouth. Seems like an easy After Effects fix could do the trick, since the glass passes through a black area of the frame. Otherwise, I'm very impressed by what I've seen in your short, great lighting and compositions.

Frederic, for some reason when I download the larger version it still plays in a very small window. I'm on my work computer (the only access I have to high speed internet)--is there a setting I can change on my PC to display it larger? When I right click on the window it doesn't give me any options. Is this my computer's way of telling me this is as big a window as I can handle?

Betsy,

What are you playing the m2t with? VLC Player?

Not sure and afraid to ask the IT guy (as this is definitely non-work related, although I do work at a talent agency). Do you know where I should look to find out?

Betsy,

Go ahead and download the VLC player from here:

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Open the m2t file from the player.

It seems very "soft" to me. Its a nice look but doesn't seem so HD. More so with the man, the woman looks sharper .
Did you apply any blurs or do multiple renderings?
Ken

Ken,

No filters. Just some color correction and some more saturation on the woman.

I like the look as well, much more filmlike than some other HD stuff I've seen.

Saw the large version, thanks for the help with the download. Looks great. You said you lit it pretty bright and then darkened it. Were you able to eliminate most of the "noise" that comes from low lighting that way?

Betsy,

Actually we lit it to enhance contrast and tried to keep the dark areas as dark as possible.

I did darken it even more in color correction.

Beleive me, there is a lot of noise there. Actually, the seats aren't green, beleive it or not! But they sure seem green on the screen. I didn't have a problem with it, green seemed OK, even though it was a result of chroma noise.

The impressive part for me were the reds. Take a look at his tie, you would never get this quality of definition in SD. And, her blouse, same there. Reds do great in HD. In SD we learned to stay away from reds but not in HD. Even HDV.

F

Just as a test I ran your footage through the Cineform Chroma plugin and it removed almost all of the noise. If you would like I will post some stills. Have you tried using that plugin or an equivalent plugin for mac?

Mark,

No I haven't. I'm really interested in seeing the results. Stills and m2t if possible.

Thanks!

I have posted 2 sets of stills at http://www.viproductions.tv/hd10/hd10shots.htm
I have converted the entire clip to m2t but 60Mb is a large file to upload to my site at this time. If you would like I could chop it in half and upload that.

Mark,

I'm sold. Really.

I wonder how far along Graeme Nattress is with his plugin for FCP? I'll invite him to comment of the topic.

Does anyone know of a good comparable plugin for FCP?

I updated my G DVNR plugin to expressly look at the issue of chroma noise. You can download the demo for Set 1 and try it yourself. I don't have an HDV camera, so it's a fairly general chroma-noise plugin, but I did make it aware of various colour sampling schemes.

Graeme

Mark,

Will the Cineform Chroma plugin work with AE6?

From my tests no. I have not been able to get it to interact with AE. You might want to contact David Newman or maybe he could post something on the board regarding a possible plugin for AE for aspect users. I must state though that this plugin is still in beta so alot may change from now to when it reaches final stage.