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Matt Elias
August 8th, 2004, 11:35 AM
Oh I just dragged the clip from the viewer to the canvas, and when you hold down the mouse it gives you options to insert it. It will insert the clip where the playhead is placed in the timeline, so I had the playhead between the two clips that I wanted to place my clip between.

Jake Russell
August 8th, 2004, 02:52 PM
I think it's still 1TB. One Terabyte.

http://www.jigsaw24.com/proddesc.asp?ITEM=X325AGA

But you can get it cheaper,

Jake

Alex Beaupre
August 8th, 2004, 03:24 PM
I am using final cut pro hd. thanks for the help so far, ill give it a try.

Ron Johnson
August 8th, 2004, 04:33 PM
I'm using the 400 GB model. It's great to have the capability of simultaneous capture on my PowerBook - DV in on FW400 and out to the Big Disk on FW800.

The unit is still new to me, but functioning well so far.

Ray Echevers
August 8th, 2004, 07:12 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by Mike Hanlon : Open the Dissolve folder in the Video Transitions folder.
Copy the Cross Dissolve transition to the Favorites folder.
Open the Favorites folder.
Change the name of the cross dissolve copy to something you like.
Double click on the Length value and change the length of the transition to :15.
Put the cursor over the name of your new 15 frame cross dissolve.
Hold down the control key as you click on the name.
Select "Set Default Transition" from the popup. -->>>
I do it, but i can't get it to "stick".
When i got back and check it, it says 1 second again.

Mike Hanlon
August 8th, 2004, 10:49 PM
Hmmmm. I tried the steps I listed before I responded.

When setting the length of the cross dissolve copy you put in the Favorites folder (step 5 in my list), make sure you click on the value in the Length column in the Browser window and set the new length (15 frames in this case). Double clicking on the transition and altering the length in the Viewer doesn't work.

When you say you can't get it to stick, which "it" do you mean?

Ray Echevers
August 9th, 2004, 05:46 AM
<<<-- Originally posted by Mike Hanlon : Hmmmm. I tried the steps I listed before I responded.

When setting the length of the cross dissolve copy you put in the Favorites folder (step 5 in my list), make sure you click on the value in the Length column in the Browser window and set the new length (15 frames in this case). Double clicking on the transition and altering the length in the Viewer doesn't work.

When you say you can't get it to stick, which "it" do you mean? -->>>
I did it another way. I did a dissolve in the timeline, then changed it's duration, i right clicked and hit copy, then i just pasted it in the favorites folder, and set it to default favorites, works now.

Chris Wright
August 9th, 2004, 11:25 AM
I'm trying to slow down a background effects clip exporting from Livetype. If anyone out there has Livetype installed and wants to see the clip, its "Canopy" under the Medley category of the Textures section.

Anyway, I want to use this as a background to some title effects for a wedding video, but the clip is too fast for me. I've tried slowing it down in LiveType and again in Final Cut Pro (with and without Frame Blending). None of these has worked very well. They all produce s stuttering video. It plays black slower, but not as smooth.

Does anyone know of a better way to slow down these clips? I've heard that Final Cut doesnt do a great job of it... maybe there is a (free, hopefully) third party filter that will do it?

Jeff Donald
August 9th, 2004, 12:11 PM
What are you using to view the effects?

Chris Wright
August 9th, 2004, 02:23 PM
im not sure if this is what you mean, but I'm viewing the final effect in final cut pro as well as on a 14" tv

It doesnt look right on the computer or the TV...

Jeff Donald
August 9th, 2004, 02:43 PM
If the results are unacceptable after rendering and viewing the final output from tape on TV then you may need to purchase a plugin. I use Joe's Filters (http://www.joesfilters.com/) for my slow motion work. Joe Maller is a member here and occasionally drops in.

Chris Wright
August 9th, 2004, 03:19 PM
I should have known I'd end up having to buy a plugin... slowing down a clip is such a simple idea, im not sure why Final Cut can't do it right.

However, Joe's Time Blender filter looks really cool. I'll download the trial version and see if it's worth buying.

Thanks for the link

Jason R. Wood
August 10th, 2004, 03:13 AM
What are you using and why?

I'm an Avid guy and I am considering building an FCP suite for on-line work.

Xpress Pro is a superb offline tool, but I don't see Avid opening it up for SD on-line. Mojo and one stream of 1:1 does not cut it.

I am just curious as to your opinions on the two software packages.

Kevin Burnfield
August 10th, 2004, 06:03 AM
Take a look at all the companies and major names that are moving over to FCP.

Cold Mountain, Scrubs, Smallville... I can't think of all the companies and major editors but on Apple's site they have all sorts of stories and stuff.

I used AVID years ago and played with it again not too long ago and really feel that FCP is a better product and that Apple is really more interested in getting a great piece of software out there rather then protecting it's install base.

Would AVID let you upgrade from ANY previous version to the latest and greatest? (buy an old, unregistered, copy of 1.2 and upgrade that to 4.5 HD for only $399.00)

I don't have specifics for my choice right off the top of my head but I chose FCP over AVID and if you look at how they've supported the product, how Apple has bought products like SHAKE and other post production packages you can see that they are really looking to do great things with it.

Guy Cochran
August 10th, 2004, 04:08 PM
Here's another option, although a bit pricey http://www.revisionfx.com/rstwixtor.htm

Guy Cochran
August 10th, 2004, 06:04 PM
Hi Alex,

I might be able to help, certain devices need certain settings as per http://images.apple.com/finalcutpro/pdf/FinalCutProHD_4.5_Qualified_20040804.pdf or http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/specs.html

For the GL2 go to Audio Video Settings and switch your device control preset to "FireWire Basic"

Also, if you are using an external FireWire hard drive, try plugging the camera directly into the Mac instead of into the FireWire HD.

Cheers,

Jeff Donald
August 10th, 2004, 08:35 PM
PLenty of new updates

Mac OS 10.3.5 here (http://wsidecar.apple.com/cgi-bin/nph-reg3rdpty1.pl/product=04595&platform=osx&method=sa/MacOSXCombo10.3.5.dmg) 88MB

Pro Application Support 2.1 here (http://wsidecar.apple.com/cgi-bin/nph-reg3rdpty1.pl/product=04606&platform=osx&method=sa/ProRuntime2.1.dmg) 2.6MB

Compressor 1.2.1 is available via Software Update

DVD Studio Pro 3.0.1 here (http://wsidecar.apple.com/cgi-bin/nph-reg3rdpty1.pl/product=04604&platform=osx&method=sa/) 6MB

iSync 1.5 here (http://wsidecar.apple.com/cgi-bin/nph-reg3rdpty1.pl/product=01993&platform=osx&method=sa/) 6MB

Java Update 1.4.2 Update 1 here (http://wsidecar.apple.com/cgi-bin/nph-reg3rdpty1.pl/product=03650&platform=osx&method=sa/Java142Update1.dmg) 26MB

Do Not update in the middle of a project if at all possible. More update may be available after updating Pro Application Support and running Software Update. I advise repairing permissions before and after any updates. I also advise downloading the updates rather than installing via the internet over Software Update. Read VersionTracker and MacFixIt to read any possible conflicts if you're unsure of updating.

Vishal Gurung
August 10th, 2004, 11:45 PM
Ok, i've been using FCP 4.5 and been editing along nice.. every now and then when i try and use a clip and input it onto the timeline, it gives me that error.. no problem cuz when i just slide along diff video levels, it lets me sooner or later import it into the timeline.. now here's the big one.. i've been editing on low quality and now i'm changing it all to high res in order to render.. cept when i render.. it renders for like 10 secs, quits and then gives me this stupid General Error (34) msg... HALP! wtf does it mean??? it's never done it before.. why now?? pls help!

p.s ok this is where it get's weird.. so i rendered everything else like just clip by clip basically, but there's a part in my timeline at about the 30 second mark where even tho there's no clip, the previous clip that was there STILL PLAYS!! it's like.. there's nothing on the timeline (and i've checked up and down everywhere) and yet a clip plays!! argh!! driving me nuts!

and yes i've trashed all the preferences and all that stuff and i still get this stupid msg and that weird ghost clip!

Ken Tanaka
August 11th, 2004, 01:04 AM
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27285

Vishal Gurung
August 11th, 2004, 08:33 AM
hey ken, yeps i saw that and i did everything suggested but that didn't work either...hence why i posted again... it's the ghost clip that get's me.. so weird... well what i finally did was i copied and pasted everything into a new sequence and that seemed to work.. a bit of a go around way of solving things but one use what what can get... has anyone ever encountered this type of problem before tho? and if so, why the error? thanx in advance

Tim Tonner
August 11th, 2004, 09:42 AM
Greetings Ken---
FCP 3 indeed has all the leader/coundown options, (bars, tone, etc.)...My question is, does it render to the head of your project somehow intuitively or do you have to somehow assign it? I plan to put bars/tone, info on who produced it, and the countdown to the first fade up from black...

Ken Tanaka
August 11th, 2004, 10:03 AM
It's an export option. That is, you would tell FCP to use your own file (containing your countdown, etc) when preparing to export the sequence. It won't show up on your working sequence.

Mason Cooley
August 11th, 2004, 12:52 PM
DVX100A
DVD SP 2
FCP 3.0.4

---

A question came to me recently.

What is the advantage of removing the pulldown on 24p advanced when outputting to DVD?

If one encodes the 24p and authors that material on DVD then how is it viewed correctly on a monitor - another pulldown from the DVD player itself?

Is there an advantage with encoding 24p instead of 29.97?

---

My understanding is when shooting 24p standard not advanced and going to DVD one is preserving the pulldown and hence the image quality from the camera to outputting is the same?

I've also noticed when encoding to MPEG2 after shooting 24p standard the encode takes quite a but longer than my old XL-1 footage.

Thanks

Ray Echevers
August 11th, 2004, 01:43 PM
Anyone seen this? Aparantly they just released it.
It's FCPHD, Motion, and DVDSP3 for $1299.00, but if you can get the student discount, it's only $499.00!

http://www.apple.com/productionsuite/

What a steal!

Bryan McCullough
August 11th, 2004, 01:45 PM
I originally wasn't too excited about Motion, being a pretty hard core After Effects user.

However, the particle stuff looks pretty sweet and there's at least one template that I can already use in a current project, so I think I may be picking this up after all.

Anyone else interested in it?

Deniz Turkmen
August 11th, 2004, 02:00 PM
Whenever I play whats on the timeline in FCP HD, the fans on my dual 2.5 kick in and and it sounds like the computer is working pretty hard just to play back a small portion of video. Is this normal, or is my computer over heating? I have it underneath my desk where nothing can block the fans. This is my first Mac, so I have nothing to compare it too.

Jeff Donald
August 11th, 2004, 02:36 PM
The dual 2.5GHz processors generate a lot of heat, hence the water cooling. It is probably normal. Consult Apple Care, they have more experience than anyone on forums at this time. Your unit is too new for much field experience yet.

Vishal Gurung
August 11th, 2004, 04:53 PM
*bump* anyone here encountered something like this?

Bill Greene
August 11th, 2004, 06:09 PM
I am going to pick up the Production Suite come September. Even in Canada, the price for the whole thing with my student discount is $679. Considering Final Cut Express is 200 with the student discount, I would be insane not to spend the extra and get the Suite.

A phenomenal deal... and even more so when it will save me buying After Effects. Since I have not trained in AE, using Motion will make a little more sense, since from what I have seen (NAB Demo video) it us super simple to use and create great output.

I cant wait!

Ray Echevers
August 11th, 2004, 11:10 PM
I think i might get it too.
I am tempted too to go get the Production Suite, since it would upgrade me from FCP4 and DVDSP2 to FCPHD and DVDSP3, plus Motion!

Trey Perrone
August 12th, 2004, 09:39 AM
hey guys, sorry to trouble ya....i usually run sony dvd arch at home, it give me the option to insert an intro clip (such as the fbi warning type on standard movies)

idvd doesnt seem to have that option, my classmates and I have already assembled a great menu and to redo it in another proggie seeminly would tack on another day.

Could i not encode the intro clip i want separately, and then edit the IFO and tack it in there?

thanks!

Chris L. Gray
August 12th, 2004, 10:23 AM
I just ordered one of these, refurbed from Apple after checking Bare Feat's FCP render tests. http://www.barefeats.com/fcp4.html

After struggling on my tibook 550 G4, I couldn't pass up the upgrade opportunity at this price.

Anyone else on here using FCP with this machine? Have you edited feature length material and if so, how would you describe the experience?


http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/72502/wo/9B3JnXEWu5Xk2DKnsmJ1OZWDHzG/0.0.9.1.0.6.61.0.0.0.0.0.0.3.1.1.0?114,75

Mark Sloan
August 12th, 2004, 11:23 AM
You can only do it with iDVD 4.x I believe. Check apple's website for more info.

Trey Perrone
August 12th, 2004, 02:14 PM
unfortunately its whatever they have on these macs here...i dont own a mac myself. cant see paying for software i would never use.

i know i could handcode it in use IFO edit, just curious if anyone else has run into this.

Chris L. Gray
August 12th, 2004, 02:44 PM
Woops. sold out already.

Sharon Lawler
August 13th, 2004, 09:44 AM
I'm trying to export some sequences into Quicktime movies (with chapters, though that shouldn't make a difference) into iDVD 3.0. I did this exact same thing just two days ago, with another project. Now, when I try to export, it goes through the motions, and after it "exports", it says "operation not allowed". It does this on any sequence in this project that I try to export. Have shut down and re-started with no success. Any thoughts?

Brian Federal
August 13th, 2004, 11:54 AM
Hello Folks,
I will be outputting some video from FCP to mini DV tape for use on a local cable TV show. The cable company will only accept VHS, SVHS, or Beta tape. What is my best option for best quality. I will also need to make sure my video is broadcast safe. I used the broadcast safe filter in FCP and it left me with small square bright green pixels in the hot spots. Should I try to do this or hire a post shop to do it for me. Money is allways an issue and would like to color correct myself. I did try to run the level highlights filter after the broadcast safe filter and this seemed to help. Thanks for your help,
Brian

Stylianos Moschapidakis
August 13th, 2004, 12:06 PM
I am about to install FCP 3 on my eMac (OS 10.2) and I'm a little confused as to whether or not the version (6.0.1) of the QT Player that came pre-installed with my eMac will come into conflict with FCP3's QT Pro. In other words, when it comes to installing QT Pro, does it matter what version of QT Player one has? If yes, what do you suggest I do?

Thank you.

Shane Ross
August 13th, 2004, 12:20 PM
For the best quality, have your miniDV master transferred to betasp at a professional dub facility. Be sure to add color bars when you print it to tape.

As for color correction and broadcast safe:

You can't just slap a Broadcast Safe filter on there and be done with it. That can crush your highlights, lighten your blacks, and do odd things with color. Color correction is a skill...one that takes a bit of training and a good eye. There are editors here in L.A. whose whole job is to color correct a show and make it ready for broadcast. If you want to tackle this and make your projects look good, I suggest getting a little training.

In the meantime...open your Tool bench scopes and use them as a reference to make sure that your whites don't peak over 100 IRE, and your blacks don't go below 0 IRE. When the dub house makes the transfer, they will bump the blacks up to the analoge standard of 7 IRE. Make sure your colors aren't too hot as well.

The scopes are your best friend. Learn how to read them and use them.

I don't mean to come off sounding 'Holier than thou.' I just want to state that when you enter the broadcast world, you need to know what you are doing or your stuff will get kicked back to you. That can be embarassing and costly to your reputation and pocketbook.

Be prepared.

Jeff Donald
August 13th, 2004, 02:04 PM
Install the version of QT that comes with FCP and license it as instructed in the FCP directions.

Jeff Donald
August 13th, 2004, 02:15 PM
I've seen that error (usually with an error code) with QT Streaming as an option and if subtitles are in your project.

Stylianos Moschapidakis
August 13th, 2004, 03:14 PM
Jeff, thank you for replying.

So, to get a better understanding, does QT Pro work with every QT Player version? Aren't there different versions for Pro as there are for Player?

Jeff Donald
August 13th, 2004, 05:25 PM
It knows what version to use based on the serial number you enter. No serial number means QT Player. Serial number means QT Pro. FCP 3 want the serial done in a specific manner, as I recall.

Harrison Murchison
August 13th, 2004, 06:15 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by Chris L. Gray : Woops. sold out already. -->>>


Damn. Good deal. A 1.6Ghz G5 with a Gig of mem or more would run FCP fine. Keep your eyes peeled Apple seems to be clearing out computers.

Patricia Kim
August 13th, 2004, 06:35 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by Harrison Murchison : Keep your eyes peeled Apple seems to be clearing out computers. -->>>

It seems to be more a case of making refurbs available for resale as and when they can. For awhile only the earlier G5s were available in the refurb section. Now the newer ones are also appearing there. The available quantities are not that large. The day I bought a refurb dual 1.8GHz/160GB G5, when my transaction was done, that item disappeared off the web site for that day. The sales person with whom I was speaking had also been about to discuss the 1.6GHz with me, then said, "Whoops, that one's gone already." Fortunately, that was not what I had had my eye on anyway.

Jaime Valles
August 13th, 2004, 09:05 PM
Hello, all! I need some help... I'm editing a MiniDV feature on FCP HD, and everything was fine, until now. For some reason, when I play my footage on the timeline at regular speed, the audio plays back fine. However, when I scrub through the timeline, either in fast-forward or slo-mo, the audio doesn't play. Five minutes ago this was all working fine, and now I can't listen to my clips unless it's at regular speed. Even trying to move frame-by-frame in either direction doesn't play the audio; only regular speed. The sound levels display only moves when it's playing at normal speed.

I haven't changed any settings, and I've already edited tons of footage with no problems. I tried restarting FCP, but the problem is still there.

I'm using FCP HD 4.5 on a Dual 2GHz G5 with 1.5GB RAM, and several external HDDs. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jaime Valles
August 13th, 2004, 10:09 PM
Nevermind... I got it fixed. I had accidentally unchecked the "Audio Scrubbing" feature in the View menu. I must have pressed SHIFT+S by accident. Anyway, it works now.

Chris L. Gray
August 14th, 2004, 03:44 AM
I just received my 1.6 today. By the scuff on the mouse, it looks USED. But oh well, I don't care. I'm waiting for my 1GB ram kit to really let this baby handle fcp. :p

Alex Beaupre
August 14th, 2004, 09:10 AM
Thank you for your help Guy, ill give it a try.

Jeremiah Hall
August 14th, 2004, 09:50 AM
The tv station I work has Avid Xpress in three of the bays, with linear in the remaining ones. I have FCPHD at home on my mac. Of the two, I prefer FCP if nothing else than for the layout. FCP's layout is (to me) more user friendly than the one for Avid Xpress.