Click here to check new Pana's - CA Pana site:

http://www.panasonic.ca/english/audiovideo/video/index.asp

PS: click 'n check once a day. :-))

Here's the Pana US 3-CCD video main page:

http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelList?storeId=11251&catalogId=11005&catGroupId=11303

Anyone up to post Pana AU's page? Germany's? Please do. :-))

And Kamal provides the Pana UK GS4 page!

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/camcorders/nvgs400b/index.htm

this is the aussie one

pretty usless if you ask me doesn't even give me details specs on the GS-200 or GS-120, just a short summary of marketing specs and that's about it in a printable version as well! oooooo how wonderful, hence the reason i go to the UK or Japanese sites to find out info b4 i go into stores to ask questions and leave the sales staff wondering why they weren't informed of the features i mentioned..... hehehe. it's exposing their ignorance but you have to do that sometimes.

the ppl at panasonic marketing in australia are pretty much useless as well, in my opinion anyway.

http://www.panasonic.com.au/catalogue/list.cfm?cat=2_1

<----- i'm regular crew!!! wooo! hehehe

go the Aussies! =)

http://www.panasonic.be/servlet/PB/menu/1050385_l3/index.html

http://www.panasonic.be/servlet/PB/menu/1050385_l6/index.html

Allan, what's that Pana Japan new cam link again?

http://prodb.matsushita.co.jp/product/brandnews.do?pg=14&np=2


The list seems to have been updated up to 1 August 2004, but still no indication of any new consumer cam..hmmmm.

Thanks one again, Allan. I think this Pana link is the most important one for those new cam announcements. Any one want to place any bets whether there's going to be a new Pana 3-chip Japanese Domestic?

Nothing new on these Pana sites yet? I'm just sticking with the Canadian link, since I can't read those other languages including Australian.

<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Granovski : Click here to check new Pana's - CA Pana site:

http://www.panasonic.ca/english/audiovideo/video/index.asp

PS: click 'n check once a day. :-)) -->>>

Looks like Belgium is expecting a GS-400 to arrive June 1.

http://www.panasonic.be/servlet/PB/menu/1050385_l6/


// Ric

Hey, thanks, Richard!

Did you see any mention of chip size! Anything else there that's interesting? Wait, French was my second language (English is my 3rd); I think I'll go there to check it out for myself---hopefully it won't crash my WIN 3.X browser. :-))

Update: I see it's just the usual with the unusual GS4 pic. :-))

The microphone placement seems rather odd, up there on the top, almost the center of the camera. This would be a great location if my primary purpose was to record lens autofocus and zoom noise. Maybe Panasonic is just throwing up their hands and figuring that anyone who cares a whit about sound is going to add an external mic anyway.

// Ric

Richard, my GS100 has the same mic placement and I haven't had any issues other than its an integrated mic (with all the implied shortcomings).

http://www.supervideo.com/MX7kpalRTe.JPG

<<<-- Originally posted by Tommy Haupfear : Richard, my GS100 has the same mic placement and I haven't had any issues other than its an integrated mic (with all the implied shortcomings).

http://www.supervideo.com/MX7kpalRTe.JPG -->>>

Thanks, Tommy. Good to know. Damn, that GS100 of yours is bigger than I thought it would be. (Of course it's unfurled in all its glory.) But compared to, say, a GS70 it looks like a handful.

// Ric

Is it just me or is it just me? I can't seem to get to the Belgian site anymore. Ooops..maybe they blacklisted my IP address after seeing so many entries of queries under my IP address and blocked
me out!!! help! can anyone else get in?

http://www.panasonic.be/servlet/PB/menu/1050385_l6/

If someone can get in, please let us know. :)

But for real, I think somethings going on..they've password protected the site! lol!:) That can only mean that something's gonna happen real soon right?

I brought a few European Pana sites to Pana's attention. They've probably now yanked the GS400 early bird info because the specs are probably wrong. Sorry.

Frank, yeah Espany seems to have yanked their page, too! well for the moment at least.

that GS100 of yours is bigger than I thought it would be.

This pic might be better for judging the size of the GS100.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-12/74415/GS100.jpg

Are there any Panasonic sites left that have GS400 info posted?

So Frank, did Pany say which specs were wrong?

What about all of them, as in the gs400 may not be forthcoming this June or July? Of course I'm just speculating. But why pull a whole page instead of just making corrections? On the other hand, there is that catalog that is out there... still downloadable from the UK site. (Has anyone noticed that the shorthand for specifications and speculation is the same - "specs"?)

I was just wondering if Pany had indicated to Frank which specific feature or specification was not correct which led to the yanking of the pages.

Patricia, yes, I see the catalog's still in there with the speculative specs. I guess it's better to have nothing available than to have those product pages between pany branches showing conflicting specs and even in just one branch, the product page conflicts with their own catalog.

So this cleanup should be a good thing meaning the next product literature releases should now be accurate, consistent, and hopefully complete.

Also, still downloadable from the Belgium site, the audio video catalog 2004 with a place holder for nv-gs4000 sans picture = they yanked the pic out.

http://www.panasonic.be/servlet/PB/show/1050145/nedcat_Personal_audio_video_NL.pdf


So Frank, are they going to yank this catalog too?

Please advise.

Joby, don't take me too seriously. I have no idea what is going on with the gs400 and just take potshots at what's out there once in a while for the heck of it. I love my gs100 and certainly hope there is something "improved" in the same family in the works. Would like to see Pana keep on hacking away at improving this particular line. (Just reviewed a dvd I finished last month using the gs100 mostly in "smoothing" mode. Amazing sound and picture quality for a small home movie handheld. Now if they could just get the coffee cup holder right...)

I think that some of these sites "jumped the gun." The GS400 was to have been announced officially already, I'm sure, but there has been countless delays for reasons unknown. It seems that when I brought up these other Pana sites (to Pana) containing PAL GS400 info, which was not even a week ago, the posted GS400 partial specs have being getting removed. I can only guess the rest. Speculation anyone? My guess is that they have had ongoing problems with their finished GS400, and perhaps now they have dropped the PAL version for the time being and instead concentrated on the NTSC version/s---especially for the Japanese market; or we will be getting something entirely different and late---it's already late! It still might be called the GS400, though, and maybe it'll even be the 1-year-old mamba. Like I said, it's all speculation now...and that is why I'd rather have a MX5000 today, than spend a year's salary on something that'll be obsolete tomorrow---or wait for Christmas when the summer has been long gone.So Frank, are they going to yank this catalog too?I don't know, but it is a panasonical possibility. :-))

Thanks Patricia. And yeah, I hope it will retain the features of the mamba + some improvements too. :)

Frank, this complete catalog still has the gs400:

http://www.panasonic.be/servlet/PB/show/1052356/Kataloog_PBN_NED.pdf

Thanks, Joby.