You beat me to it Ken.. (not that we are saying the same..but..)

It makes a lot of sense. Put both kinds of content (HD and SD) on the same physical disk in such a way that allows current (DVD) players to read the SD content and new (HD-DVD) players to read the enhanced version. It's the same logic behind the new FM radio standard beying deplyed in the US, where the "digital" and analog signals share the channel and existing analog recievers don't decode the "digital" signal, which uses a different kind of modulation. It's a great idea and can give HD-DVD the edge it needs to win over Blu-ray.

I would like to se a future where movies are available as 1920x1080 MPEG4 on an HD-DVD partition and SD MPEG2 on the DVD partition of a single disc.

Ken, I know it's been discussed. But, it looked like they said that the DVD will play on exisiting players...and it can contain HD content.

Murph

Hey wait, I was right! It is something new...they are going to make HIGH DEFINITION discs completely compatible with EXISTING DVD PLAYERS.

That's huge news!! It means that video productions can sell HD and standard defintion to anyone. When they upgrade to a HD DVD player - it'll have the HD content.

I think that's amazing and great news for content providers!

News:
http://www.macworld.com/news/2004/12/08/dual/index.php

News:
http://www.hdforindies.com/

Yup, that's what's written in the article and what I think Ignacio and I hinted at..
Let's not jump to high until the format war has settled though..

<<<-- Originally posted by Christopher C. Murphy : Apple's iPod will surely add "Movies" sooner rather than later. -->>>

Interestingly, it looks like cell phones will become iPods before that happens. I just read that Motorola will debut a cell phone that can download music from the iTunes store in 2005. :-)

I saw this this morning at the Inquirer and it is reported a little differently. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20093 It is a dual sided disc. Since the media is layed down in layers, one side it blue laser media and the other red laser media. I have seen some current red laser dual sided disc with wide-screen on one side and full on the other. Same concept. Definitely an interesting solution.

Edit - I sent a note to the reporter for a clarification.

I'd much rather have it either on two discs (buy a movie and get
a DVD and HD-DVD disc) or on two sides.

The technology they are talking about contains two layers, one
for DVD (4.7 GB) and one for HD-DVD (15 GB). The "problem" with
this is that the DVD layer has half the normal space available and
thus needs way more compression for a movie to fit. I don't want
them to cut even more into the quality!

Also see:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/08/dvd_hd-dvd_dualdisc/

With Toshiba's "perpendicular recording" technology it looks like we may be creeping ever closer to the day when onboard video camera drives are practical and economical parts of the camera rather than bulky accessories.

I saw this announcement on MacWorld's site: http://www.macworld.com/news/2004/12/14/toshiba/index.php

In a series of announcements Nokia is beginning to take mobile video very serious.

The 7710 phone has a 20:10 screen 640 x 320 pixels, and a mediaplayer. Furthermore this unit can recieve digital tv, with an optional add on reciever.

www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,65387,00.html

At the press meeting for the 7710 they stressed that they have realized that they are the worlds biggest cameramaker. And that they were going for better video on all their 3G phones as they think that video vil be the next big thing in mobile phones.

And they also mentioned that 30% of all printed digital pictures in northern Europe originates from a mobile phone.

I have a Nokia 6630 with a 1,3 megapixel camera and a real flash. It takes OK pictures for 4 x 6 prints, and the video is fine for web use. It's even got bulid in video editing.

Now we are waiting for the first person to do a feature on his mobile phone. Or are we....?

Sounds nice. I just love the ability to see something crazy going on or whatnot and take out my mobile phone and get mildly acceptable video out of it. Its a nice feature.

I figure in a few years we'll have several ntsc 'camera phones' out recording mpeg4 to small memory cards. Works good for capturing that random stuff that you wish you had your camera for.

NICE NICE NICE!!!!

That's what you are getting for not testing posted URL's.

And BTW the 15 fps video is watchable on the device. If only they did not insist on putting MMC flashcard in it.

And if you like to see, what Nokia envisions as a media mobile phone then take a peek at the video for 6630 at www.nokia.com/nokia/0,8764,58949,00.html

testing, testing ... it works

Watching the video i doubt that he would have gotten the same out of a XL2 and a laptop. This proves smaller is sometimes better!

What's wrong with the MMC cards?

Well

MMC is a thinner (0.7 mm) edition of the SD Card, and it's got build in DRM. It is a Sandisk/Nokia design ment for smartphones and MP3-players.

The holy grail of all telecom is content, and in our digital age the telcos and the phone manufacturers want to make sure that the digital content stays on the right phone and doesn't get distributed all over the internet.

Due to demand and design. MMC is more expensive, has less performance and capacity that SD Cards. Especially at the larger sizes.

That's why I think that SD Cards are a better choice

Interesting thought on DRM. I don't like the idea of making sure content stays protected is the main priority on choosing a good medium.

On the other hand that Nokia promotional video was very cool. Just proves a cool phone always gets the girl.

He didn't demonstrate any video capibilities though. Does this phone have them?

Re: MMC

Oh, Ok. Well, I'm stuck with Sony MemoryStick DUO's on my Sony/Ericsson phone, so the thought of MMC sounded better to me than it did to you I guess. :)

When we get above F1.4 outside I'll try to do some video on the 6630, and get it posted somehow.

I have a flash for it with build in videolight. But in this country at this time a year, where the big HMI in the sky is on standby, it is of no use.

And I wish that the phone manufactures would regognize the units as data carrying devices., and put some serious storage in the units. I use mine phone to carry documents using Bluetooth as connection.

BTW

These time differencies tickles my sense of humor. Now I have repliet to Dylan before he wrote his message. Amazing!

<<<-- Originally posted by Jos Svendsen : BTW

These time differencies tickles my sense of humor. Now I have repliet to Dylan before he wrote his message. Amazing! -->>>


It's not you, I'm just a really slow typer. ;)


I agree about them getting serious on the storage of these devices. Why can "they" put a 20gb hard drive in an MP3 player for $200, but can't put one in a PDA/phone that costs $800+