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Michael Best
September 29th, 2004, 09:22 AM
I wasn't sure where to post this - I can't seem to get any viable
responses from vendors. This is the setup - XL2 on top of a Magiqcam with a 7" Panny LCD, on camera light, I want to be able to run the light and LCD via battery power. Does anyone know how this can be accomplished? I see adpaters for the monitor that will use a Canon battery but one vendor said that was impossible. I see these battery belts but can they run both? Please, any help or recommendations with this setup would be greatly appreciated.

Jacques Mersereau
September 29th, 2004, 10:15 AM
Your Canon camera's power requirements differ from the light and
the LCD in voltage.
Since you didn't post what the manufacture's specs are on those accessory
voltages I will *try a guess*. Most likely those accessories use 12 volt power.

12 volt power is usually supplied by several batteries in a battery
belt (though most on camera battery systems (Aaton Bauer) also provide
12-14volt power). I don't know what voltage the XL2 uses,
but you could either use a battery just for camera or buy the
Canon adapter that transforms 12v to 7.2v(? trying to remember)
and run all systems off the battery belt.

Personally, I use the two battery system as lights draw mucho juice
and I'd rather have dark video than no video when the battery gets
low.

Bob Pennington
September 29th, 2004, 10:19 AM
Michael- you can use the Anton/Bauer QR-XL1C plate on the back of the XL-2. Using an Anton/Bauer Hytron 50 or Dionic 90 battery you can power the camera, use the PowerTap (2 pin) and connect a PowerTap multi cable- this will give you 4 outputs, you can use 1 of them to power your light and the second to power your monitor (be sure to check the voltage input range of your monitor- and check your polarity of the cable). 1 battery system to power all of your gear. You also have additional ports to power wireless receivers or hard disc recorders if you desire.

Michael Best
September 29th, 2004, 10:31 AM
This is starting to give me hope - THANKS

Jacques Mersereau
September 29th, 2004, 11:26 AM
Get ready for sticker shock. Aaton Bauer is the rolls royce of battery power.
You should expect to plunk down MORE than a grand for A-B.
Check out bescor.com for heavier, but reasonable pricing.

Ken Tanaka
September 29th, 2004, 12:20 PM
We are delighted to welcome Bob Pennington of Anton/Bauer as one of our newest members. Anton/Bauer was kind enough to loan me one of their Dionic batteries, a Titan Twin charger, and a QR-XL1-C mounting plate for my recent article on the Firestore FS-3 (http://www.dvinfo.net/canon/articles/article88.php).

They are, indeed, the "cadillac" of camera battery power sources, and worth every penny for critical applications.

Ed Liew
September 29th, 2004, 12:53 PM
hi michael,
sorry to say, magiqcam universal battery mount does not hold anton gold mount - its too small. maybe you could ask john to cut a bigger plate so that it would fit the anton gold mount.

ed

Michael Best
September 29th, 2004, 01:05 PM
Ed, thanks for letting me know that. What do you intend to use?
Is there any other way to attach it? I doubt John's going to want
to customize it, I would think I could possibly do it myself or do you think that's not a good idea? Maybe Bescor will have something that will work. How big are the pods on the sled?

Bob Pennington
September 29th, 2004, 02:19 PM
XL-1 or XL-2 Users-- we can modify our bracket to work similar to our "Pouch" style adapters. We offer Pouch adapters for other smaller DV camera's from Sony, Panasonic and JVC. We haven't offered this style of bracket in the past... since the Canon XL-1 had a shoulder mount, we focused on the bracket mounted to the camera. For applications like the Magiqcam or other uses that may require battery power for the XL-1 or XL-2 not mounted on the camera, These pouch adapters also work with GL-1 and GL-2 cameras. Please contact your Anton/Bauer dealer or Anton/Bauer directly.

Michael Best
September 29th, 2004, 02:22 PM
I take it this new? I was told by a rep at one of the vendors that
this was not possible with the Anton/Bauer line.

Bob Pennington
September 29th, 2004, 02:57 PM
The Pouch style adapters have been around for a few years.
We did not make Pouch style for XL-1, since it was a shoulder mounted camera. With the popularity of the GL-1 and GL-2 we are having more request for a Canon Pouch mount. The pouch that we provide is made for the smaller cased batteries- the Hytron 50 or Dionic 90. If you want to use a larger style battery- you can place the battery in a fanny pack etc.

Ed Liew
September 30th, 2004, 04:22 AM
this is how i mount my anton gold plate to magiqcam battery mount http://visualline.7p.com/magicam_anton_mount.html

if you intend to use light with this battery, there is a sub power outlet by the side of the plate. only thing is you would have to use their light - which is not cheap.

my experience using magiqcam with portable lighting is, not easy. the wire would sort of make the rig go off balance if it is not probably tie to the sled and by this, you would sort of limit some of your movement.

maybe the expert can explain further on this.

ed

Michael Best
September 30th, 2004, 05:45 AM
Thanks Ed, so the black plate with the post is part of the Magiqcam I take it? Do you have the model numbers of the
Anton/Bauer stuff you are using? Thanks

Bob Pennington
September 30th, 2004, 06:51 AM
The outputs on the Anton/Bauer gold mount plates are known as PowerTap. This output is standard for numerous products, (the Sony DSR cameras have this output on the side of them). If you need to convert another product to the PowerTap, you can purchase PowerTap connectors or Conversion cables to use with your gear. http://www.antonbauer.com/ultralight_accessories.htm#power

Ed Liew
September 30th, 2004, 03:49 PM
michael,

yes the black plate is the magiqcam mount and there is no hole for mounting, so you have to drill it yourself.
not sure of the model number but it is normally refer to as gold mount. maybe, bob can help on this one.

ed

Michael Best
October 1st, 2004, 06:06 AM
Ed, thank you. Adjacent to this battery mount would be the monitor mount correct? How is that configured and is the
pod or plate any larger than the battery side? Forgive me I'm
trying to get what I need prior to it's arrival.

Bob Pennington
October 1st, 2004, 07:50 AM
The Canon camera requires the QR-XL1c bracket, this bracket performs the voltage conversion to 7.2 volts.
We offer additional brackets that do not perform the voltage conversion including the QRC-GOLD - Compact Universal Gold Mount Kit with mounting hardware and wire terminals - This Gold Mount is similar to the but is approximately 3/4" smaller (4.7" x 3.0" x 0.5" thick) which makes it ideal for mounting to small devices. Due to its smaller design, the QRC-GOLD must be mounted with its top edge flush with one edge of the equipment on which it is installed

You can see more: http://www.antonbauer.com/gold_mount_system.htm

Michael Best
October 1st, 2004, 07:58 AM
Bob, really appreciate all your help here - thanks

I'm concerned though as I believe you are referring to adding the
battery to the back of the camera where I think in the instance
of the Magiqcam, it needs mounted on the sled?

Bob Pennington
October 1st, 2004, 01:08 PM
For this application- We need to determine our goal. Is the goal to use one battery to power camera and the light-- mounting the bracket on the sled???-- If yes-- we need the bracket that performs voltage conversion. You will need to mount this on the sled and run the cables (2) up to the camera. Contact us for this application-- we will need to make an extended cable to power the camera, the other cable will be the PowerTap extension cable that will mount to the light.

If the goal is power the light only-- mount the QR-C Gold mount adapter to the sled and run a cable up to the light-- this is the PowerTap extension cable. The bracket will also have 2 wires (positive and negative) in the rear, you could use this a modify a cable to power your LCD monitor.

Michael Best
October 1st, 2004, 01:18 PM
Bob, I still intend to power the camera with the regular canon batteries.

Ed Liew
October 1st, 2004, 06:30 PM
hi michael,

will get some photos up, monday i hope, on how i mount a lcd monitor on the sled. will also give you the measurement of the gold mount and magiqcam battery mount. hope it will help.

ed

Michael Best
October 1st, 2004, 06:44 PM
Ed - that would be priceless, can't thank you enough!

Ed Liew
October 3rd, 2004, 10:20 PM
hi michael,

just got some photos up.

http://visualline.7p.com/magiqcam_monitor_setup.html

the lcd monitor is mounted using double sided tape. i made the breakout box out of aluminium material. its design to power the monitor and camera. the video signal from the camera is channel through the box to the monitor. i have an extra bnc outlet by the side only as a backup.

hope this give you an idea.

ed