When some of my clips are louder than the others or more quiet in the voices of the actors. For example clip one -Master shot is very quiet, then we cut to a close up shot and the sound is way louder. I did change the audio settings to Normalize and unclicked the Loop setting.

For me to adjust this so it all sounds right do I fix it with the Threshold or something else.

put the master clip on its own audio track - boost volume using slider ...
now put the close ups audio on their own audio tracks ( = 1-3 more tracks ) agian use the volume slider on audio track to adjust ...
now to make FINE tune adjustments to say a event in audio track = say the 3rd master audio ( master shot) clip is too loud so to adjust this use the audio event gain = put curser near top of audio track and when it turns into a hand left click and drag audio gain down( lower) .....

if you have a audio event that begins ( or middle/end ) very loud then goes lower and you want it to be approx same volume = then use the audio rubber band ( audio envolope) to adjust OR use the "S" key to split ( cut) the loud section away from the lower audio- then use the event gain ( curser turns to hand) to lower the loud section and then you might need to normalize the lower audio and then use the event GAIN to adjust volume to match other sections ....

Thank you Don,

Sweet, I'll be trying this right away!

Nice this is working!

Thanks.

I got another question let say I want NO sound in the clip, there is no dialogue but the hiss sound. I will have music over it. So do I just click on Mute?

Also I think I'm having sound problems in some of the dialogue is because of the hisses in some clips, Maybe I should do a noise reduction first. Now for this do I need a program like Sony Forge or Noise Reduction. Or can I do this somehow in Vegas?

Thanks

You can go into the switches for a particular clip and mute it.

Better approaches:
A- The music will cover up the hiss so you can't hear it anyways.
B- You can use a noise gate to gate out the noise. It will automatically duck down the volume on the clip when it gets below a certain threshold.

Noise reduction plug-ins are more effective and complicated noise gates. You can use them if you have noise problems. They only hide noise though and these plug-ins can only hide so much.

You could always just use a volume envelope to reduce the volume in those areas.

You can remove noise with an FFT-based filter, which is not the same as a noise gate. The cheapest professional one I know of is BIAS Inc. (http://www.bias-inc.com/)'s Sound Soap (http://www.bias-inc.com/products/soundsoap/) ($99 for the basic version). Douglas Spotted Eagle (of DVInfo and more) wrote an excellent article about noise reduction (http://www.digitalpostproduction.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=25455).

Michael

The volume envelope is probably the easiest way. It works very well also.

thanks for the advice,

now do I really need spend more money to do this.

People mentioned the volume envelope, any info out there on how to use it and what it exactly is.

thanks

okay, I know what the audio envelopes are, when I insert audio envelope click on the volume a purple line goes over the sound in the timeline, double click, a square appers and I can move the line around.

I don't know how this will remove the hiss, but I'll play around with it. And there's also the EQ to play around with.

I'll see what happens.

In the post I responded to you indicated you were wanting to remove the hiss in an area with no talking. By dropping the volume in that area, there will be no hiss behind the music.

If you have true hiss (i.e. kind of a repeatable noise that is consistent), you really need to look at the Noise Reduction plugin. You can find it on Sony's site and it will work directly in Vegas.

<<<-- Originally posted by Edward Troxel : In the post I responded to you indicated you were wanting to remove the hiss in an area with no talking. By dropping the volume in that area, there will be no hiss behind the music.

If you have true hiss (i.e. kind of a repeatable noise that is consistent), you really need to look at the Noise Reduction plugin. You can find it on Sony's site and it will work directly in Vegas. -->>>


In the area where there is no talking yes I put the clips on mute, so obviously no hiss, I'm gonna have the music score on those clips.

I do have hiss on the clips when there is dialogue, not so much with the close up shots, they are mostly clear but with master or medium shots definetly hear hiss. I'm not sure how to explain on what kind of hiss this is.

I've got sound forge, not sure if that will work?

People are saying that Noise Reduction does miracles so maybe I should get it. Then again, maybe the hiss I have could be dealt with in Vegas, but I have no clue.

alright, I bought the plugin noise reduction... you guys know where I can find good info on how to use it.

any good links, greatly appriciated,

a struggling Newbie.

http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/articles/artofnoise.htm

Yes, I've read that article.

Doesn't really tell me anything though.

hi matt,

i don't think you ever mentioned what your project involved. is it a fictional piece? a documentary?

if it's a documentary there is little we should do except to adjust the levels/NR.

if it's a fiction piece then i highly recommend you ADR the entire production like a cartoon for the sake of good dialogue =). just a suggestion.

its a fiction, short story.

I'm just a dumbass newbie.

Why don't I use the sound from the close ups.

Woodson --- shakes his head.


Any of you know any good links on how to use Sony's Sound Forge and the plugin Noise Reduction?

Thanks

You could use the sound from the close ups for wide shots. If it's difficult to see the lips (which would be the case with a wide shot), then lip sync shouldn't be an issue.

to use SF with Vegas ..
right click on the audio ( the section you want to work on ) clip in the Vegas TL - choose open COPY in SF ...

select a section (loop it) that has only the noise you want to remove .. then in SF choose the NR FX ...

after NR opens click on PREVIEW ... bottom of NR click on NOISEPRINT set the auto capture time out at 0.25..then check the box capture noiseprint ... if the line goes staright across bottom hit - click reset ..

if noise is ?? complicated change the FIT to 1000-

once you get a noise print you'll hear the noise drop out .. now click on bottom tab GENERAL ..

now below the preview icon right click - choose "select all data" now whole clip will play back with NR applied

change the FFT to 4096 .. if you hear background sounding like water change the FFT to 8000 or 16000

now listen to the voice quality and background noise .. move the attack & release into 90's ..slide the overalp into 80+

reduce noise slider 10-20 area ... noise bias in area of -10 to +10 ...again listen to the VOICE quality ...

now try a different mode 1,2 3, .. you be the judge which you prefer ..sometimes hard to hear difference between 0 -1 , 1-2 , 2-3 but you will hear difference between 0-3 ...

if you want to hear what NR is removing check KEEP residue output ...

when you have it teh way you like click OK ...
then X out ( close SF ) it will ask if you want to SAVE - click YES

SF will close out and SAVE the data to the Vegas TL on top of the old audio ( as take 2) .. if you want to return to original audio - right click on the audio ( take 2) - TAKE - you'll see 2 audio names choose either ...

NOTE that it is better to use NR a little at a time VS alot ( = better to use the NR "reduce noise" slider at 17 twice vs use it at 35 one time ... which means after you open copy in SF and use at 17 then save etc - you then go to Vegas TL and right click on the take 2 audio - open copy in SF and apply 17 again etc= now when you look at TAKES in Vegas you'll see 3 audio clip names = you can use any of em at any time ...

thank you thank you

I'm currently playing with these.

But finally I'm in the right process.

Greatly appriciated.