Well, it looks as to have the DVX form, let's hope it fits to our DVX rigged minis as easily as the XL2 did to the XL1 rigged minis.

Anyone have thoughts on HD Mini35? Are there any limitations in the Mini's ground glass compared to the pro? I'm thinking its the same glass....

I've been waiting for HVX200+mini35 rig for long time...
and that was the reason why I bought DVX100+mini35+Zeiss lens set...
I'll be really disappointed if Mini35 doesn't work for HVX200.
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If anyone knows anything... please share it with us...

Please...


Jong W. Lee
Cinemasia Production

P.S. Is the name 'HVX200' right?

im using a mini35 with a fx1 and the image is amazing

Rafael, how does focusing work out with the Fx1? Reading Adam Wilts review of the FX-1 made it sound like the FX-1's viewfinder isn't high-res enough to focus well for normal HD. I would assume it would be even harder with the mini35 on there.

<<<-- Originally posted by Rafael Cruz : im using a mini35 with a fx1 and the image is amazing -->>>

Would you mind posting some material?
Thanks

<<<-- Originally posted by Rafael Cruz : im using a mini35 with a fx1 and the image is amazing -->>>

Would you mind posting some material?
Thanks

Rabi, I think if you do a search on the DV for the Masses Forum, someone already posted a clip, a music clip I think, shot with the FX1 and the Mini35 (or it's in the FX1 forum, don't really know anymore)
anyhow, there should be a link to footage of it via these boards.
Good luck!

Christopher Haring has a post under P+S technik and mini35 converters.

He shot a music video on hdr-fx1.

The HVX200 should work fine with the Mini35, according to conversations I had at NAB with both Panasonic and P+S Technik folk. However, sadly for those of us who own DVX relays--the front diameter of the HVX's lens will be larger, so that means a new kit for that camera.

Thanks Charles, that's what I needed to hear:)

Does it mean simply a larger diopter attachment and reconfigured mount (probably $ hundreds) or does it mean a completely new kit (couple grand) ?

Historically each new mount has meant a $2600 relay and mounting kit. This should be no exception. The shroud around the lens will need to be bigger, so all elements will require retooling.

Charles,

I know you have watch dog for xl1 and xl2 and it has valuable links to mini 35 p+s technik. Is this same good for HDV cameras. I'm thinking of buying the HDR-FX1 i just want a link to put it together with Mini35.

thanks,
Hari

just curious, but does the mini35 relay lens screw to the lens on the DVX? if it does, you could probably just get a stepping ring to fit it to the new panasonic camera. From my understanding the relay lens is a just an achromat of some sort so you can focus on the GG... so you have to actually zoom with your camcorder.

just my .02cents

possible, possible...however, as soon as you start to zoom back from full telephoto with the DVX you will start vignetting (in this case, the oscillating ground glass reveals itself in the corners. Sadly I've had this happen on a few shots by accident). Since the HVX has a larger diameter, it stands to reason that it will vignette that much more; however, it does have a longer zoom so perhaps it will cancel out this issue. It remains to be seen. Thanks for the interesting thought Cody, hope it pans out!

Hari, I haven't worked with it but I know there is a relay available for the two Sony HDV cameras.

Well yes you will get vingetting with any 35mm adapter if you are zoomed all the way out. you usually have to zoom in to about 2x-5x depending on the camcorder and adapter. the reason for this is you are trying to record a 35mm camera image that is actually the size of 24mm/36mm.

Check out this photo from NAB...(6th photo from top)
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/JVC-GY-HD100U-Photo-Gallery.htm
Isn't this Mini35 300, attatched to new JVC GY-HD100U?
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Adopters for new JVC already out?

Just hoping... it'll work for HVX200 like this easy...

Like to hear some good news from P+S Technik or ZGC...

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Cody:

What I was saying was that on the DVX adaptor you need to be at full telephoto to achieve proper coverage on the ground glass. I had a concern about the HVX being backed off to incorporate a step-down ring, thus potentially creating a slight vignette--but the additional range of the HVX lens in telephoto should be able to accomodate this.

Jong, the relay shown at NAB for the HD100U was a mockup, but will be in production soon (I would think it would be out by the time the camera hits the street). It's essentially the XL series relay with the JVC bayonet on it. Assuming that Panasonic gets P+S a pre-release HVX in time, historically they have been able to get their adaptors out just after the camera goes on sale. They are of course aware of the camera and are intending to make a relay for it (this is based on conversations I had with both P+S and ZGC folk at the show).

Charles, I'm the producer type (at least that's what my major credits are). So just wondering. If you use these 35mm adapters it softens the image and if you go to film out it'll soften it more correct?

The reason for my question is;

I've done four 4 films on 35mm all released to the dvd, video, tv, cable markets.

With my luck I'd shoot with one and then someone would want a film out that's reasoning behind my question.

Charles, I'm the producer type (at least that's what my major credits are). So just wondering. If you use these 35mm adapters it softens the image and if you go to film out it'll soften it more correct?

The reason for my question is;

I've done four 4 films on 35mm all released to the dvd, video, tv, cable markets.

With my luck I'd shoot with one and then someone would want a film out that's reasoning behind my question.
Ask Marcus Van Bavel about the DVFilm demo reel. About a year ago we put together some DVX/Anamorphic footage, and the identical shots on DVX/mini35, and Marcus transferred it to 35mm and put the footage on the demo reel. If you'd like to see how the mini35 footage held up on a transfer, vs. non-mini35, that'd be a great way to do it. But keep in mind that not only is there a difference of the mini35 present, but also it was letterbox mode so it needed a little more optical magnification.

I think it held up pretty well, compared to the anamorphic. I was concerned that overall the results were probably too soft for a mainline theatrical release, but it was definitely nowhere near as soft as I thought it might be.

Consider that with an HD camera, likely the transfer will hold up better as well.