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Paul Cronin
February 16th, 2010, 08:51 AM
Has anyone tried this on their 350? Mine does not seem to work then again I could be missing something but can't seem to find it in the manual.

I have been using HD-SDI out and HDMI out fine.

Mike Marriage
February 16th, 2010, 07:05 PM
Hi Paul

You need to set it to SD output in the menu. If you have been using HD outputs it is likely not set to output composite SD. Can't remember the exact menu names without the camera in front of me but it is reasonably straight forward.

I had a slight panic when I first got mine and the composite out didn't work.

Paul Cronin
February 17th, 2010, 07:39 AM
Thanks Mike,

Will check it out and see if that helps but I set it to 480p and it made no difference yesterday.

Are you saying if I am using HD-SDI, HDMI, and Composite that all have to be SD? Or is this setting just for the composite? There are times when I use all three.

Mike Marriage
February 18th, 2010, 06:12 AM
In: Op>Input/Output>Output&i.Link:

You have: HD&HDV which sends HD out of HDMI but won't send SD composite out of the video output. The signal through the video out in this mode scrambles a composite monitor but doesn't seem to be an HDSDI signal either. Any ideas???

The other settings will output a composite video signal but the HDMI signal is downconverted too. It appears windowed on my monitor. Haven't tested the HDSDI signal in anything but HD&HDV mode so not sure how that behaves. The iLink side of things is probably quite straight forward but I haven't used it yet.

The manual is no help on this issue at all!

Paul Cronin
February 18th, 2010, 07:39 AM
Agree Mike the manual is no help here. Later today I will hook up my HDSDI monitor, Composite monitor, and HDMDI monitor and see what I can learn and let you know.

Would be nice to have HD going out all three at the same time.

Chris Tangey
February 19th, 2010, 06:22 AM
Would a matrox MX02 unit allow you to do that Paul, or am i mistaken?

Paul Cronin
February 19th, 2010, 06:30 AM
Chris it might I don't know but not interested in adding an additional box.

Alister Chapman
February 19th, 2010, 09:37 AM
You can have composite in HD, no such thing exists. Composite is SD only.

Paul Cronin
February 19th, 2010, 09:42 AM
OK my bad I was mixing up composite and component from the EX1. Sorry to cause confusion.

So the only HD out of the 350 is HD-SDI and HDMI.

Alister Chapman
February 19th, 2010, 09:43 AM
Yes that is correct, no component.

Mike Marriage
February 19th, 2010, 04:13 PM
I was working with this on a shoot today.

(I'm 99% sure) you can output composite (as AC says, SD only) and HDSDI at the same time. However, you don't appear to be able to output SD composite and HD via HDMI at the same time. The HDMI signal is windowed to SD resolution.

Has anyone figured out what the signal from the "video out" is when set to HD&HDV? Still can't figure that one out!

Paul Cronin
February 19th, 2010, 04:23 PM
Sorry Mike I have been looking at screens editing the last few days and have not had a chance to shoot. Shooting tomorrow but I think it will not make a difference on the composite how you set HD&HDV since composite is only SD. I think that setting is for iLink only, page 141 in manual. Also page 25 #9 where it says iLink (HDV/DV).

Mike Marriage
February 21st, 2010, 03:47 AM
Hi Paul,

On my camera if you set it to HD&HDV you don't get SD composite out. It switches to some other signal and I don't know what it is.

Paul Cronin
February 21st, 2010, 10:16 AM
I have the time for the next hours I will go look at it now and see what I find.

Alister Chapman
February 21st, 2010, 10:39 AM
It's HD-Y (Just the Y part of component out) on the composite connector when you select HD&HDV.

Paul Cronin
February 21st, 2010, 11:18 AM
Ah yes Alister beat me too it.

No problem having at the same time HD-SDI out, HDMI out, and Composite Y out. Composite Y will be black and white.

Mike Marriage
February 21st, 2010, 04:09 PM
It's HD-Y (Just the Y part of component out)

Thanks Alister, I wondered if it would be that but thought I was being stupid so didn't even test it!

Can you get the rest of the signal or just the "Y?" Weird.

Paul Cronin
February 21st, 2010, 06:06 PM
Would like to know the same answer Mike. I came by it by luck just trying all the options and was surprised when "y" only worked. Unless there is a composite single BNC to three BNC cable.

At least we have B+W composite.

Alister Chapman
February 22nd, 2010, 01:41 AM
Unless Sony can change the firmware to send the other two parts of the component signals to some of the other BNC's then I doubt it will ever happen. You can't get all 3 signals out via a single BNC, it needs either 3 BNC's or a multipole connector.

Paul Cronin
February 22nd, 2010, 06:36 AM
Thanks Alister.

It will be nice to meet you at NAB. I will stop by and say hi at the CD booth.