That's great, I'm glad you love your DSLR. More power to you. If this new (sony) camera costs an arm and a leg I might get one (dslr) too just for the low light stuff. But if I can get this new sony camera for around the same as my EX3 and it doesn't have any serious trade offs (if it does they would built in more than likely knowing sony) I want it. It could be a direct replacement for the ex. Or not, we shall see.

Also if it uses the f35 chip, it would (more than likely) have none of the image downsides of the 7d.

I can't see the new camera having the F35 chip, but perhaps a variation on the design or a faster refresh rate than found on their Alpha camera sensors.

Although, perhaps they may use the lower grade F35 chips - those not good enough for use in the high end cameras...

It's the panning which seems to tend to show up worst in the DSLRs.

The F35 and SRW9000PL have single RGB striped pattern CCD sensors. This camera will have a single Bayer pattern CMOS sensor. Really that's about all that is known at this time.

A bayer chip? That means it was probably pulled from a dsrl right? Maybe the camera will be cheaper than a EX3.

Looks like the big boys are battling it out. Will Canon have a chance to do a 4/3" finally?

Since 4/3 was designed to compete with Canon and Nikon, it's very unlikely these two companies would adopt that size. Both these companies have APS-C size sensors which are close to film 35mm. These chips also have a more appropriate aspect ratio than 4/3.

Some people won't find enough DOF control with 4/3, especially on the wide end.

This is an amazing thread!!!

What a good read!!!!


personally, I would rather see full 60 P in the cameras without having to spend 30 to 50 grand!!!

I still think video is video and film is film.

Dale Guthormsen

Ps I can really appreciate Mkle's comments, andf I do not even use a dslr yet!

Now if I win the LOTTO MAX???!!! where would I go????

I do like the look of this camera and if its a year ago all the better as I will be looking for a new camera then. Any ideas of cost? 5k/10k or more?

The canon T2i with a lens is less money than my consumer Sony Sr11. It has basically a super 35mm sized sensor, almost certainly very close to the same size as the sensor of the new Sony cam.

I still want to wait though. What I am hoping for is that magic "low res" 35mm chip. 1920ish chip that is super35 sized. Do they even have bayer CMOS chips like that?

The first Canon-made DSLR, the 30D, was 3mb APS-C (close to super 35mm). A 2mb chip like that made today would be super light sensitive. Sony is certainly capable of making a chip like that, but 4/3 is more likely.

A bayer chip? That means it was probably pulled from a dsrl right? Maybe the camera will be cheaper than a EX3.

Not pulled from a dslr. Purpose-made chips with fewer and larger photo sensors.

A bayer chip? That means it was probably pulled from a dsrl right? Maybe the camera will be cheaper than a EX3.

Did panasonic estimate $6K? I would expect Sony to be close to that. But Sony doesn't even know yet, so we certainly don't know. It depends in part what else comes to the market before Sony.

Not pulled from a dslr. Purpose-made chips with fewer and larger photo sensors.

Are you guessing or did you hear that? That is exactly what I want to hear. Exactly the kind of chip I hope this has.

EDIT: also what about that huge lens and rail system? Is that just a mock up of a kitted out camera or does all that come with it?

Another little thing, doesn't look like it has a microphone (the nub of the front looks too small to be a mic), just the holder for an external on the side.

I doubt that it's the same chip as in the F35. Wouldn't that be too expensive for the intended price point for this camera?

Sony PL (Z35) Film and Digital Times: Blog (http://www.fdtimes.com/news/?p=1786)
According to Jon Faouer's blog the price is $19 000 which positions the camera against Red. IMO, this could sport a dedicated video sensor (CCD?) and not a DSLR derivative, and the codec could be XDCAM with even RAW thrown in.
It also makes sense market wise because Sony will have to solutions, one above Panny's and one below with the upcoming NEX camcorder with similar to Pany's characteristics (essentially both are still camera derivatives) but presumably with a lower price.

Now if they can throw in some wi fi for wireless control and video monitoring that will make my day.

Awww crap. No new camera for me.

Any speculation on what type of recording format this camera will use? Will it be sdhc cards, sxs cards, tape or some other format? Any ideas?


Ozzy

It they're going up against the RED One, the camera will need a higher end codec (10bit 4:2:2 ?). It's unlikely to use tape because a VTR is expensive. Hopefully the viewfinder is good quality, otherwise you could be into accessories, which brings the price up..