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Shufiyan Shukur
May 20th, 2010, 11:09 PM
Hi,

Just wondering what headphones folks are using to monitor audio either from camera or audio mixer for outside production?

Thanks.

John Willett
May 22nd, 2010, 06:14 AM
The industry standard (certainly in the UK and most of Europe) is the Sennheiser HD 25-1 (now HD 25-1 II).

Low impedance, closed back and *very* efficient - so it gives a good level even from weak headphone amplifiers; and as you therefore keep the gain lower, it maximises battery life.

I have had my own pair for 20 years - they are still going strong with regular use. All I have had to do is to replace the earpads a few times as they wear out with use.

Highly recommend.

Shufiyan Shukur
May 22nd, 2010, 07:04 AM
Thanks so much for the advice. It's one of the models I've had in mind. :-)

Seth Bloombaum
May 22nd, 2010, 09:49 AM
Video industry standard in the U.S. is (mostly) the Sony MDR-7506.

This has a mid-range boost that reveals quite a bit about dialog. It doesn't provide as much isolation as the Senn. It's moderately sensitive - some prosumer camcorders may not provide enough gain at the headphone output. It packs up more compactly than the Senn.

I tend to use the 7506 on voice recording, and the Senn on music projects, but most other locals here use the 7506 exclusively.

Rick Reineke
May 22nd, 2010, 09:58 AM
On this side of the pond, the Sony 7506 seems to be the most popular for field production. Check out competitive closed-back models from AKG, Audio Technica, Beyer, Sennheiser, Shure, Ultrasone. Try on different models, physical comfort is a factor if you will be wearing them for long periods of time. Expect to pay at least $100USD.

This may be of interest: Pro-Audio Review did a HP shoot-out in the April 2010 issue.
Studio-oriented opinions, but the contenders would be suitable for field production. They bench tested them as well.
Headphones (http://www.proaudioreview.com/article/27920)
Bench Test (http://www.proaudioreview.com/article/27932)

Steve Oakley
May 24th, 2010, 09:19 PM
the 7506 is more of a me too model. they have not a lot of isolation. check out the senn HD280's for the same price. 30db of isolation, more neutral sound. they also stay on your head

Nicole Hankerson
May 25th, 2010, 01:52 AM
Yes the MDR-7506 are industry standards here in the USA but the Sennheiser HD280's are used by some as well. I love the MDR-7506 headphones but the Senn does have a better fit imho.


Nicole

Guy Cochran
May 25th, 2010, 01:23 PM
+1 on the HD25-1-II's.

Great isolation, and they ship with the velour replacement pads for added comfort. These pack up easier with their smaller size, and another handy feature not really talked about is that one side can swivel up. Sure they cost twice as much as the 7506's or HD280 pro headphones, but if you're using them for 10+ years, the difference becomes pennies a day. Every customer that we have had that purchased them in person has remarked about how much they preferred the HD25-1-II's over whatever else they had previously been using.

The HD25-1-II's seem to be much more popular around the globe rather than in the US. Some may complain about the caliper pressure initially, but after you get the right fit and with a bit of use, they become comfortable for extended periods.

I like having a pair of cans that I can use to edit with in the studio, listen to music/movies on the plane, and still rely on them for critical sound on-set. The tonal quality has to really be heard in person to be appreciated. I used to use 7506's for so many years that the black padding was eroding so much so that I was constantly finding crap on my face when I looked in the mirror, or someone would say, "Hey, you got something on your face right here" pointing to where the headphones had been on all day. I actually dig those garfield softies now. If you do go with 7506's get a pair of those.

I use what I recommend....here's me slapping on a pair

Sanken, RODE, Audio Technica, Sennheiser and Da Cappo microphones on Vimeo

Garrett Low
May 25th, 2010, 03:04 PM
I use the 7506 as do most of the production sound guys I work with. I have worked with some that use the HD280's. Both very capable and work well.

Hey Guy, that's my mic!. Thanks for getting it to me so quickly. Great doing business with you.

Garrett

Guy Cochran
May 25th, 2010, 09:03 PM
Hey Garrett,

That is your shotgun mic in the video. It's famous! I'm glad you're enjoying it and it's really great to see that she has gone to a loving new home, although now I think I'm going through CS3e withdrawals and may need visitation rights lol. Seriously though, enjoy that mic. It's one of the best on the planet.

I also used to use the HD280 Pro headphones often over the past 4-5 years, we have a few pairs floating around in our kits. They have stood up very well. I think they look a bit dorky, but hey, we're not in this for looks right? :)

John Willett
May 26th, 2010, 07:11 AM
the 7506 is more of a me too model. they have not a lot of isolation. check out the senn HD280's for the same price. 30db of isolation, more neutral sound. they also stay on your head

The Senn HD 380 Pro are about the same price as the 280 and fold flat and come with a zip case.

But none of these have the high efficiency that the HD 25-1 does.

Brad Kraus
May 28th, 2010, 11:44 AM
Another recommendation for the Sennheiser HD280, especially for outdoor work or noisier environments. They are not as sensitive as the HD 25-1 II but they do have better isolation. I have both in my bag, and the HD 25s are fantastic, but I seem to find myself reaching for the 280s more often than not when working outside...

Guy Cochran
May 28th, 2010, 12:02 PM
Not to add too much confusion, but we may as well lay it all out - In the same $99 range is the Shure SRH440
Shure Americas | SRH440 Professional Studio Headphones (http://www.shure.com/americas/products/earphones-headphones/headphones/srh440-professional-studio-headphones)

and the Audio Technica ATH-M50's
Audio-Technica - Microphones, headphones, wireless microphone systems, noise-cancelling headphones & more : ATH-M50s : Professional Studio Monitor Headphones (with straight cable) (http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/57a64f4a9fdbefd9/index.html)

Any opinions on these vs the HD280's and the 7506's?

Also, against the $199 HD25-1-II's would be the new Shure 840's
Shure Americas | SRH840 Professional Monitoring Headphones (http://www.shure.com/americas/products/earphones-headphones/headphones/srh840-professional-monitoring-headphones)

Any other great models worth mentioning?

Rick Reineke
May 28th, 2010, 12:46 PM
Remote Audio HN-7506 High Noise Headset.
Not cheap (285usd) but I 'hear' isolation is very good and sound very close to the stock 7506.
Allegedly, "Seals off outside ambiance by as much as 45dB".

Iker Riera
June 6th, 2011, 08:18 PM
reviving an old thread because i'm in need of some new headphones. I'm trying to keep the price under $150 if possible. I'm currently torn between the classic Sennheiser HD 280 Pro and the newer Audio Technica ATH-M50 which seem to have great reviews everywhere i look. The HD 280 Pro also look like a good option.

Anyone has experience with thesemodels that they can share? I'll be using them mostly to monitor dialog while recording and some of the most important factors for me are:

- Isolation
- Flat/natural sound
- Build quality/comfort.


I'd appreciate any help or comments :)

Jon Fairhurst
June 6th, 2011, 10:15 PM
I own the HD 280 Pro headphones and haven't tried the other models.

- Isolation
I recently read a string of posts from a guy who was multitracking vocals with Sony 7506s and was unhappy with the bleed. He bought the Senns and the problem was solved. I figure if the bleed out is better, the bleed in is probably better too!

- Flat/natural sound
I found the Senns to be the flattest of those I tested. The low bass is limited. The mid bass might be a touch high. But the bass response will vary based on the shape of your ears. Try them for yourself, if possible.

- Build quality/comfort.
I like the build quality. They are stiff and tight at first, but break in before long. I have a pair at home and another at work.

Vincent Oliver
June 7th, 2011, 05:04 AM
I use what I recommend....here's me slapping on a pair

Sanken, RODE, Audio Technica, Sennheiser and Da Cappo microphones on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/11451198)

Thanks for posting your video, one of the best I have seen and excellent quality.

I do a lot of screen shot tutorials, which means I have to sit close to the computer , and of course this also means I pick up a lot of the fan noises etc. (It's not practical to re-locate the computer).

At the moment I am using a Rode NTG-2, which has a fair amount of rejection, but not enough. I recently purchased the Rode NT1a but it is so over sensitive that I have not used it at all.

I am considering the Audio Technica BPHS-1 headset have you tried this set, or do you have any view on this?

John Willett
June 7th, 2011, 01:41 PM
reviving an old thread because i'm in need of some new headphones. I'm trying to keep the price under $150 if possible. I'm currently torn between the classic Sennheiser HD 280 Pro and the newer Audio Technica ATH-M50 which seem to have great reviews everywhere i look. The HD 280 Pro also look like a good option.

Anyone has experience with thesemodels that they can share? I'll be using them mostly to monitor dialog while recording and some of the most important factors for me are:

- Isolation
- Flat/natural sound
- Build quality/comfort.


I'd appreciate any help or comments :)

This looks like exactly the same question I answered in another forum - so I won't repeat it here unless you want me to.

Dan Ostroff
June 7th, 2011, 02:04 PM
Hello Iker:

I know out of your range but wanted to mention the Remote Audio HN-7506 High Noise Headset available through Trew Audio, made from the guts of the Sony 7506 (which I own and have gotten used to). They are pricey ($285) which is MUCH higher than your budget but I justified them as a way to protect my hearing over time. If it protects me from hearing loss, thus allowing me to work longer, well worth it. They help tremendously in isolating from external noises allowing you to monitor audio at a lower volume (no more smushing the headphones against your head).

Just my $0.02..

reviving an old thread because i'm in need of some new headphones. I'm trying to keep the price under $150 if possible. I'm currently torn between the classic Sennheiser HD 280 Pro and the newer Audio Technica ATH-M50 which seem to have great reviews everywhere i look. The HD 280 Pro also look like a good option.

Anyone has experience with thesemodels that they can share? I'll be using them mostly to monitor dialog while recording and some of the most important factors for me are:

- Isolation
- Flat/natural sound
- Build quality/comfort.


I'd appreciate any help or comments :)

Iker Riera
June 7th, 2011, 03:25 PM
thanks i'll keep those in mind too but i'm really trying to not go too much over $150ish right now. Thanks for the recommendation anyway :)

Dan Ostroff
June 8th, 2011, 07:36 AM
No problem - figured so since it was way out of your range. Just trying to help protect the hearing of myself and folks out there. :)

Good luck!

thanks i'll keep those in mind too but i'm really trying to not go too much over $150ish right now. Thanks for the recommendation anyway :)

Ahmad Husni
June 8th, 2011, 06:47 PM
I've vote for the AKG, k271 or k171. Both are great. k171 is lighter, but the earpads are smaller and design to press you ears, while the k271 can seems to 'cover them all', but they are both very comfortable.

I had my k271 for about 7 years now and still using it for mostly SCP/ENG work. The earpad materials are really good - feels like leather, they take sweat/moist/dust/sun incredibly well. I had others headphone in between and most of them earpads doesn't last, including the k141, so as AKG advise a studio headphone, it is a studio heaphone and a TV production series is a TV production series.

I love both k171 and k271... ithe MkII versions comes with 2 cables and it's really great!

Iker Riera
June 9th, 2011, 06:33 PM
quick update, i ended up getting the HD 380s because i found them for a price too good to pass up. Being using them for a couple hours listening to some music, clips i had on the pc, etc. and so far they seem like a good choice. Build quality is good and light and the earpads are very comfortable.

I'll be shooting next week at a club to see how they really perform when it matters. Thanks for everything :)