View Full Version : nano3D - New Feature - Anaglyph


Dan Keaton
September 18th, 2010, 12:12 PM
Dear Friends,

We have recently developed Anaglyph support for our nano3D.

This will be in our next nano3D firmware release.

This allows one, on-set, to use a non-3D monintor for viewing the 3D image.

One just needs a regular monitor and a pair of low cost Red / Cyan glasses to view the 3D.

This feature was requested by some of our nano3D users.

Daniel Symmes
September 18th, 2010, 01:47 PM
Thanks, Dan.

This is a very useful feature for run-n-gun shooting where a 3D monitor is impractical.

Some directors MUST see 3D so this addresses an important need.

Along the same lines...can you possibly just spit out the L&R superimposed? Not as an anaglyph. Simply superimposed? The very expensive 3D systems in the wild have this built-in to help better align the cameras.

Carrying this further, can ONE image be a negative, superimposed on the other positive? This produces a composite that is even easier to see camera alignment and parallax (again, featured in the big box systems).

(edit) By the way, the best small-form 3D monitor is the Transvideo 3D. Costs about $8,500 to view an anaglpyh. By adding the anaglyph viewing to the N3D, you've eliminated a costly accessory to 3D filming.

Keep swingin' - you're hittin' them outta the park.

Dan Keaton
September 18th, 2010, 03:52 PM
Dear Dan,

We respect your extensive 3D experience and your professional opinions as to what should be included in nano3D.

We have discussed, internally, an innovative way to help align the 3D rig. It is a feature that I really like and one that I think will really help, but I am not prepared to discuss it publicly right now.

Our plan is to implement it, then see if it works as we think it will, then we will present it.

I like both of your ideas and I will discuss them with our engineers soon.

Daniel Symmes
September 18th, 2010, 03:58 PM
Dan -

Thanks for your kind words.

I'm almost giddy at the continued evolution of the N3D.

Looking forward to testing out the anaglyph feature on a program I'll be shooting at the end of the month.

Mike Schell
September 18th, 2010, 07:26 PM
Along the same lines...can you possibly just spit out the L&R superimposed? Not as an anaglyph. Simply superimposed? The very expensive 3D systems in the wild have this built-in to help better align the cameras.

Carrying this further, can ONE image be a negative, superimposed on the other positive? This produces a composite that is even easier to see camera alignment and parallax (again, featured in the big box systems).


Hi Daniel-
Thanks for the feedback and recommendations. Will the Line-by-line mode accomplish the desired results for a superimposed image - assuming you are working with the 3D monitor? In our tests this seems to work well as an alignment tool.

Of course, I assume you really want to superimpose the two images onto a regular 2D monitor, so you won't need to lug along an expensive (and/or large) 3D monitor. After shooting the nano3D product video, I can certainly understand the need for this feature.

I'll discuss with engineering on Monday, no promises, but we'll try.

Best-
Mike

Daniel Symmes
September 18th, 2010, 07:44 PM
Mike -

I'm referring to a monitor at the camera (usually on the camera rig). As an operator, I can quickly see alignment. I do not need/want to see 3D at that time. Not necessary for me. Parallax is everything.

The costly Transvideo 3D monitor is good...but your anaglyph setting allows the use of most any HD monitor. I was eyeing that monitor for my 'kit.' You've saved me about $8,500.

Six stars out of 5 for you guys.

Carlo Macchiavello
November 9th, 2010, 12:55 PM
a small request... anaglyph B/W better to use it for camera setup, better to see depth on set.
less color, more depth quality

Dan Keaton
November 9th, 2010, 01:30 PM
Dear Carlo and Dan,

Dan Symmes also requested the same feature.

We are actively considering the request. We definitely think your request has merit.

We are trying to finish a nano3D release.
We want to finish this release without delaying it by adding more featues at this time.

Bruce Schultz
November 11th, 2010, 05:05 PM
Guys, I've posted a description and a couple of pics of my 3D monitor setup at the 3D forum on DVInfo.net here;

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/3d-stereoscopic-production-delivery/487376-affordable-3d-monitor.html

Anaglyph is OK if you have no other options, but it hurts my eyes and dulls the back of my brain - so I prefer full color monitoring. BTW, both my mirror rig and Pany 3DA1 are recording to dual Nano units. I'm not sure why I haven't upgraded the Nano's to 3D yet - probably waiting for a holiday sale price . . .

Daniel Symmes
November 18th, 2010, 06:27 PM
Just to clarify, I prefer the anaglyph (specifically B&W) for on-set camera alignment because it make the job easier. I do NOT use it for actual 3D viewing. Thus, no brain-dulling. It's a simple solution I've used in other forms over a lot of years.

But this feature IS practical for 3D viewing when one can't afford other solutions or there's an issue of taking too much equipment on location, cables, etc. Using an existing 2-D monitor of any size is a very good feature.

I'm currently on a major 3D feature in China and, while awaiting the POSSIBLE B&W anaglyph feature from CD, am using the Transvideo 15" 3D monitor (which otherwise sucks) and it's nearly indispensable working with these alignment-challenged 3D rigs.