View Full Version : does anyone use the Sony NEX FS100
Dror Levi May 9th, 2012, 04:12 PM I really want this camera and would like to hear some feedbacks from people who use this camera for weddings.
I am currently using the the 7D so it will be nice to hear from people who transition from the DSLR.
Dror Levi May 10th, 2012, 07:19 AM I guess no one here has this camera.
Jeff Harper May 10th, 2012, 10:48 AM Dror, I know at least one person around here uses the camera, I think it's Noa, but I'm not sure. Be patient, they will show up. Try a search in this forum and see what you can find, if you haven't. I know the camera's sensor produces extremely high quality images. My concern with the camera would primarily be with the cost of outfitting it with fast enough lenses for wedding work. I believe the most popular zoom lens for the cam is a bit slow. Good luck with your research and your final decision.
Dror Levi May 10th, 2012, 06:15 PM Thank you Jeff, you are very kind.
Glen Vandermolen May 10th, 2012, 06:30 PM A friend of mine, who is an event videographer, asked me to shoot a wedding for him with my FS100. He was interested in the camera and wanted to see what it could do. The FS100 worked great for the wedding. I used the stock 18-200 lens. Low light isn't an issue with the camera.
My friend loved the camera so much, he bought his own. That's a pretty strong endorsement.
Dror Levi May 10th, 2012, 07:43 PM Did you use auto focus all this time?
what about using other lenses with camera as far as focusing.
Jeff Harper May 10th, 2012, 09:01 PM Glen, the lens begins at f/3.5, that is slow by any standard for wedding work, but I can't argue with you if you've used it successfully. The slowest lens I've used for wedding work was a F/2.8-4.0 and it got through the ceremony ok, but for the reception it was useless most times unless wide open and full wide.
I would seriously research the heck out of low light examples of footage with the lens before purchasing, to be safe.
Dror Levi May 10th, 2012, 10:48 PM If i ever use this lens it will be wide open for the dancing part of the reception.
For anything ells I have my F1.4-35-85.
All i want is a good indication that I am in focus.
Jeff Harper May 11th, 2012, 04:20 AM It sounds like an exciting camera Dror. If you get it please let us know about it!
Oren Arieli May 11th, 2012, 11:08 AM I purchased the FS-100 back in January. Most of my work is corporate, but there is a good article regarding weddings with the camera at Event DV by John Goolsby. My experience thus far after 20-30 mostly corporate gigs:
1)Great images, even with high gain and dim lighting
2)modular body with easy access to all the necessary 'camcorder' features
3)top mounted LCD makes overhead shooting difficult
4)lens selection is fantastic if you're okay with adapters...but there are no power zoom lenses, few fast e-mount lenses, and no internal image stabilization.
5)battery life is amazing, no overheat issues, efficient AVCHD codec
6)built-in timelapse and slow motion is wonderful
7)you'll need to invest in neutral density filters and should consider using step-up rings for every lens to get them to a consistent thread size (72mm in my case).
Hope this helps.
Dan Asseff May 11th, 2012, 04:12 PM Dror,
I use the FS-100 for wedding and event work. I use the kit lens 18-200 and the 16/wide adapter for the reception. I love this camera but i have been lately using a mono pod to keep it steady. I bought the new letus cage for more attachments points. This was my first wedding with the FS-100. I also have the noflex Nikon adapter. Michelle and Peter on Vimeo
Dan
Aaron Almquist May 11th, 2012, 04:16 PM I own an FS100 but find the only time I use it is for running audio into it during the ceremony and at the reception when I want to shoot at 16000 ISO. The rest of the day is still my trusty old 7D.
The FS100 however is my go to camera for corporate work. I don't even want to touch a DSLR while on set.
Jeff Harper May 11th, 2012, 06:16 PM Dan, that is some very nice video. The lens looks great. I take back everything I said. The images are crystal clear, outstanding.
Bill Grant May 11th, 2012, 09:03 PM Dan,
Looks like video to me. Just like the old days. I've been interested in this camera for a while, but looking at this and other samples I've seen, it looks ok but still like video. Very sharp. What is that video look?
Dan Asseff May 11th, 2012, 09:12 PM Bill,
If you have the money buy 2.8 or lower lens and you will get the look you want. I don't have the money to get the lens i want. Not completely sure what you mean though."What is that video look? "
Dan
Dror Levi May 11th, 2012, 09:32 PM @Bill
I think that the video look come from the stock lens and maybe the use of the 60I instead of 24p.
I have seen many clips from this camera that look like video but seen so many other that had the film look when not using the stock lens with a 24p.
@Aaron What makes you use the 7D rather then FS100 for you wedding work?
Aaron Almquist May 11th, 2012, 09:41 PM The FS100 is just too big and bulky when I'm getting closeups around the bride. I also don't care for the button configuration or layout on the FS100. When I'm in a run and gun situation I want the shutter, iris, and iso controls close by just like on my 7D.
Dror Levi May 11th, 2012, 09:59 PM What as far as the image itself. Which one of the two you like better?
Bill Grant May 11th, 2012, 10:00 PM DAn,
I can't afford the body much less a lens :) I'll stick with my 5D 60D combo for now. Thanks for posting this. Was it 60i?
Aaron Almquist May 11th, 2012, 10:38 PM @ Dror
The image out of the FS100 spanks any DSLR. Except of course the new Canon 4K 1DC.
Nicholas de Kock May 11th, 2012, 10:41 PM One thing I've noticed from watching FS100 samples online is that it's not a great camera for make-up shots - skin tones seem to have this reddish tint & it's too sharp. The DSLR's are crappy cameras but they are amazing for make-up work, skin looks magical on DSLR's, I'm not sure if the low resolution sensor smudges all the wrinkles away but whatever it does it works. I'd love to see the FS100 used with proper lenses & grading.
Dror Levi May 12th, 2012, 06:49 AM Nicholas, Check this video for a great make up images from the FS100
BTS on Vimeo
Chad Whelan May 16th, 2012, 11:59 AM I have shot about 10 weddings so far with the cam. A while back I actually tried trading for an EX 1 or 3 to no avail. If you are coming from a DSLR background then you will probably adjust much quicker and love the camera. I have been transitioning from a Z1U and there has been a definite learning curve with using different lenses, focus, steadiness and manual zooms. All of this has gotten better over the past couple shoots and I am starting to enjoy the camera a little more. I do love the image and when I don't feel rushed I very much love the camera. For corporate work I absolutely love everything about the FS100, it's just the run n gun of weddings that gets me a little flustered and wishing sometimes I had a different cam. After continued use I am sure all of that will go away and I will wonder why I ever questioned trading to begin with.
Here is a video I shot in October, one of the 1st shoots with the cam. I shot 1080 60p at that time. I now have switched over to 30p, like the look much better. This was shot using the 18-200 kit lens and the SONY 16mm 2.8 lens. I will note that after the 1st dance the groom told me no light whatsoever was to be used, (1st time in 18 years of shooting I had ever been told that) thank God I did not have the Z1! For the dancing party shots the gain was on 24db I believe. I honestly was blown away at how good they held up.
Dana & Justin - recap - Anthony's Ocean View - New Haven CT on Vimeo
Glen Vandermolen May 16th, 2012, 01:55 PM Glen, the lens begins at f/3.5, that is slow by any standard for wedding work, but I can't argue with you if you've used it successfully. The slowest lens I've used for wedding work was a F/2.8-4.0 and it got through the ceremony ok, but for the reception it was useless most times unless wide open and full wide.
I would seriously research the heck out of low light examples of footage with the lens before purchasing, to be safe.
Yes, the stock lens is slow, but the FS100's low light abilities make up for this, in my experience. The FS can shoot very clean video at 18db. That's just unheard of before this.
Now, I'm not saying the stock lens is the best for this camera, but there's not many other options with the range this lens has - 18-200 zoom is very handy to have in a wedding. I did buy a Tamron 17-50 zoom with constant f2.8 (with a-mount adapter) which I use a lot indoors. But having that 200mm reach is a big benefit of the stock lens.
Frank Glencairn May 16th, 2012, 03:51 PM One thing I've noticed from watching FS100 samples online is that it's not a great camera for make-up shots - skin tones seem to have this reddish tint & it's too sharp. The DSLR's are crappy cameras but they are amazing for make-up work, skin looks magical on DSLR's, I'm not sure if the low resolution sensor smudges all the wrinkles away but whatever it does it works. I'd love to see the FS100 used with proper lenses & grading.
That´s what my G-Log PP is for. Say goodbye to reddish skin.
I´m not a huge fan of that typical music video skin look, but I can see it´s use on a wedding.
If you dial down the sharpness in camera, it only takes little post work to make it on par with a DSLR, but with a better resolution.
The FS700 is evevn better at this.
Frank
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