Hola Guys,

Wanted to have a suggestion from you about 3 hours of shots with the best quality to put in a single DVD with Dvdarch. I'm going with dvdarch pal widescreen the custom with?
Many thc

Marcus use a bitrate calculator to calculate what bitrate you should render to:

Bitrate Calculator (http://www.videohelp.com/calc.htm)

Marcus, try the following Min/Avg/Max numbers.
Definitely do this one as a two-pass render.
If I was you, I'd try a short render (5 minutes or so) and see what you think of the final quality.

2,296,000 / 3,064,000 / 6,128,000

Hi Mike,

i'm trying right mow a render with your settings but i have a question about the audio:
what settings should i set to avoid the decrease of volume in dvdarch?
Thx a lot buddy

Here you go Marcus.

Encode set to AC3;
Click on Custom tab;
On the first tab, set Dialog Norm at -31 (this sets it at unity gain);
On the last tab marked Preprocessing, set the Line Mode Profile and RF Mode Profile mode to "none";
DC High Pass Filter On (this operates at <=3Hz and takes DC bias out of the mix);
Bandwidth Low Pass Filter On (this takes aliasing noise at >20kHz out of the encode).
Save this as a preset.

I use dual layer discs and avoid heavy recompression altogether.

Jeff you r right! I was ignoring this option!Thx

What are the best settings for an hour and an half?

Thx a lot Mike for the audio settings that i have just saved! I really appreciated it

For 1.5 hours the standard rates in the template are fine, no need to adjust, as long as your audio is ac3 and not .wav.

Thank you Jeff!
Considering your suggestion of dual layer what settings would you use for 3 hours and an half to be burned on a Dual layer?
i wanna try even this way
thx

Marcus, try the following numbers.
Due to the low average bitrate, I'd still do this as a two-pass render.

8,552,000 / 4,880,000 / 2,928,000

@ jeff - are the dual layer disks for your own use (ie on the same player/recorder) or for general release?

i'm only asking because a few years ago i tried dual layer (vebatim) on three different burners and had problems with all in standalone dvd players (oh, and sometimes in different players than they were originally recorded in!).

i'm hoping times have changed ;-)

then again, i haven't actually burned a commercial dvd for almost two years ;-))

Issues with dual-layer DVD's are mostly in the past. It's unlikely that you'd run into any issue with a burner made in the last two years and a player made in the last 5, from my experience.

Ok Guys here's my experience!
I dragged the m2t file (3 hour length)on the timeline. I rendered the video in dvdarch widescreen and it took 10 hours and 3 minutes to render 3 hours of video. Is it normal considering the fact i used the settings
You suggested me above. Now i opened DVD arch and i see that the total disc Space used of the DVD is 103%. I opened optimize and i guess the audio should be' compressed a little bit cause is highlighted in red. What Would you do? Many Thx guys

I m even considering the fact to rerender the original m2t into mpg2 dvd widescreen so i could make it fit in a dual layer DVD. I tryed the bitrate calculator but appear different settings from yours. So many Thanks for helping me out to render on dual layer DVD

Why render in DVDA? Vegas does so much of a better job. Use the settings that were given to you, use AC3 audio, start the render, (2 times-1 for video and 1 for audio)-if it takes 10 hours so what. Do it overnight, right!?
I've never had good luck using DVDA to render anything of length. BTW, I've burned 3 hours on a single layer DVD. Great quality? No, good enough for the client to make edit decisions? Yes. Depends on your needs. Either use dual layer or use multiple DVDs.

For me cos I do weddings I always go for the two DVD option because you are sure to find that the brides Grandmother has an ancient DVD player that is hooked up to an equally ancient CRT TV!!

It all depends on who is going to play the DL disk...BD disks are the same..if it's going to one source and one client and you KNOW their player is 100% then go for the DL disk ..it it's likely to go here, there and everywhere, it FAR FAR cheaper to make two DVD single layer disks than have to drive out to the client and deliver another set of disks.

All my weddings are two disk sets and I have never had a comeback ...I tried a DL disk a few years back and the bride was delighted ..However Mum's copy refused to play on her Sony so I ended up doing an hour's drive there and back with DVD's that worked..the DVD's would have been a way cheaper option!!

An extra 40 cents or so for an extra blank disk is worth the extra time and you know it will work!!

Chris

Ok Guys: i bought a dual layer DVD and i tried dvdarch.... At a point of the burning action pops up a Window asking me to choose to prompt stuff to a point of the video where i wanted to skip side i guess. I flagged automatic search o the point but After a while it said that i has to put a marker manually between 55 minutes length and 1 hour and 10. I set a marker in the timeline in DVDArch Then the burning process finished After 25 minutes. I went in the New panasonic DVD reader and....at the point of the marker the DVD Stops!!!!!!!!
Now i'm desperate cause monday i have to ship the DVD on a dual layer!
What did i make wrong Guys?
Many Thanks for helping me in the weekend

Leslie, just saw your post. I have used dual layer discs for about a year for wedding DVDs and the rate of bad discs are actually less than with the single layer. I use Ridata dual layter printables. I am sold on them. I don't remember a single return on the DL.

All Hollywood type movies are on dual layer discs, so that itself shouldn't be an issue, in theory. I know burned discs in general as we all produce here can be troublesome on older players, I 've had that issue with single layer discs. Over the last few years most people have newer players so I think it's not as much a problem as it used to be here.

Marcus, I have no clue about the source of your problem, I'm very sorry. I have never had DVDA ask me to insert a marker, so that is unusual to me.

I agree I never let DVDA render for me, I render to specs before getting into DVDA so it just makes the menu and burns, no rendering. I don't think that is your problem though.

Like you I also use Auto I don't choose manual.

Hallo j,

Di you use The marker hitting The"M"button to mark The breaking point?
My pc reads The entire DL DVD but not my DVD players cause they stop at The breaking point and di not play The other layer. Any ideas?

Marcus, I do not know about he M button or marker. I just choose "automatically choose breaking point" and that is all I have to do. Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what is happening.

Layer break must be set after more than 50% of movie and between episodes, when video is static and on sound track is silence, because DVD player can make short pause going from one layer to other.

Even if i choose automatically.... After a while it Asks me to set a marker in a point between 56 minutes and 1 hour and 30. Then i set The marker and it said: operation succesfull! After i Go to play in my dvds...it stops at The breaking point where i set The markers!

Marcus, DVDA has never asked me to set a marker, so I have no clue as to what to suggest. What version are you using? An older version or newer?

Version 10.0e

I meant DVDA version, in case you are using a very old version, but you are using a new version. Don't know Marcus, somewhere in your process it is asking for this marker, I just don't get it.

So i think i 'll put The video in a normal DVD but i need your help for The compression values:
What would you set for a Great quality in a normal DVD with 1 hour and 41 minutes of length?
I have to Ship it tomorrow evening

The guys

My favourite bitrate calculator is http://www.johncline.com/bitcalc110.zip

For a 1 hour and 41 minutes DVD, try 9,608,000 / 5,608,000 / 3,368,000
Make sure to do it as a 2-pass render.

Thanks a lot for The Up!!