View Full Version : GH4 is coming with 4K!


Jack Zhang
January 7th, 2014, 11:06 AM
Proof: http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/07/panasonics-4k-mirrorless-gh-camera/

They're saying Late February for under $2000.

Patrick Janka
January 7th, 2014, 12:50 PM
hmm...no source...

Darren Levine
January 7th, 2014, 01:12 PM
its just a mockup at the moment, but it's a showing by panasonic to say that they are in fact working on a gh'4k'

James Manford
January 7th, 2014, 01:59 PM
I can photoshop 4K onto a compact body as well and claim Sony's coming out with the SONY NEX-4K

I'll believe it when I hear/see more news about it.

Bob Richardson
January 7th, 2014, 08:08 PM
Here is the source:
http://www.smallcamerabigpicture.com/panasonic-ces-live-coverage/

It's a camera review blog that is attending CES.

Nothing corroborating in the text so far, unfortunately, so use your own judgement when evaluating the reality of the product.

Paul Matwiy
January 7th, 2014, 09:15 PM
Confirmation from Engadget: Panasonic's next GH mirrorless camera will record 4K video, arrive late February for under $2,000 (http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/07/panasonics-4k-mirrorless-gh-camera/)

The claim is to ship in February, which would be aggressive. Price to be $2k (w/o lens, one presumes), also aggressive. This will certain eat up memory cards...

Patrick Janka
January 7th, 2014, 09:52 PM
I want to believe the source, but the photos from Engadget seem suspect. For one, the 4K and SDXC labels look photoshopped, as evidenced by the gray box around each label. The GH3 doesn't have those. Also, every other aspect about the camera looks identical to the GH3. I can't imagine it would look the same.

Jack Zhang
January 7th, 2014, 11:29 PM
I believe it, but the camera body is currently a GH3 body with those logos slapped on. It is under a glass box because it's a prototype. It's not even a pre-production model yet.

I like the prospect of UHS-III cards, and that would mean 256GB cards would be coming soon to support the extremely high bitrates.

Late February is a tight timeframe, so if they do stick with the GH3 body, but advance it to the GH4, it's actually kind of fine by me.

James Manford
January 8th, 2014, 12:57 AM
That's crazy ...

Looks like 2014 is the year they push 4K out to us aggressively.

I'll be resisting temptation to upgrade to 4K for atleast 3 years.

Bo Skelmose
January 8th, 2014, 08:51 AM
And it fits in my Swedish chameleon cage - great :)

Bruce Watson
January 8th, 2014, 09:30 AM
That's crazy ...

Looks like 2014 is the year they push 4K out to us aggressively.

I'll be resisting temptation to upgrade to 4K for atleast 3 years.

Yup. They would have had my attention if they had announced a GH with 14 stops of dynamic range in 1080p. Increased image quality in 1080p, then yes, I'm interested. Just more resolution? Yawn...

Paul Matwiy
January 8th, 2014, 08:13 PM
Last bit of corroboration from DPReview. Something is on display at the Panasonic booth. CES 2014: Panasonic Stand Report: Digital Photography Review (http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/01/08/ces-2014-panasonic-stand-report/6)

Bill Bruner
January 9th, 2014, 08:21 AM
Just because it's a GH3 with a 4K badge on it doesn't mean it's not "real".

It's the same thing Canon did at the Cinema EOS rollout - they slapped a "Cinema EOS" badge on a !D X and put it in a glass case: http://www.filmanddigitaltimes.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/11/7D-FDTimes1080_IMG_9310.jpg

The camera was in the product pipeline - but not quite ready for hands-on.

Bo Skelmose
January 9th, 2014, 11:27 AM
Dear Panasonic - time to shift to XQD memorycards please. Then you can do anything you want when you are not really limited to data speed on the memory card ,

Roy Feldman
January 17th, 2014, 02:36 PM
Met with my Panasonic Rep today, they are expecting a mid march delivery on this camera.

Jack Zhang
January 17th, 2014, 04:39 PM
Dear Panasonic - time to shift to XQD memorycards please. Then you can do anything you want when you are not really limited to data speed on the memory card ,

XQD is currently the domain of Sony and Nikon. Panasonic would have to license it from Sony, and that's not quite what they want.

UHS-III sounds promising though.

Bo Skelmose
January 20th, 2014, 04:37 PM
Jack - I know. Panasonic and Sony work together with Oled panels so why not XQD too ;)

Patrick Janka
February 3rd, 2014, 10:59 PM
Panasonic GH4 to be Announced February 7 | thomascznarty (http://thomascznarty.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/panasonic-gh4-to-be-announced-february-7/)

Jack Zhang
February 4th, 2014, 11:53 PM
On the heels of that rumor, Kingston has announced UHS-3 cards capable of recording nearly that fast: Kingston Digital Introduces SDHC/SDXC UHS-I Speed Class 3 (U3) Memory Cards | techPowerUp (http://www.techpowerup.com/197552/kingston-digital-introduces-sdhc-sdxc-uhs-i-speed-class-3-u3-memory-cards.html)

But 4:2:2 10bit 4K (at even 30p) would be pretty good. It also may be that they're sticking to the 16MP sensor in the GH3, so we'll have very similar sensitivity figures.

Ron Fabienke
February 5th, 2014, 05:50 PM
I feel like I am missing something here. In the link above they say this below, and my SanDisc Extreme Pro cards in the link below that at B&H are already doing 95mbs read and 90 write. What has changed or improved that we are talking about these new Kingston cards?

"The SD Association's latest specification, UHS-I U3 (Ultra High-Speed Bus, Speed Class 3), guarantees performance of at least 30 MB/s read and write, enough bandwidth to record and playback 4K video without interruption. Kingston's SDHC/SDXC UHS-I Speed Class 3 card provides speeds of 90 MB/s read and 80 MB/s write, which is up to 9x faster (read) and up to 8x faster (write) than standard Class 10 SD cards. The faster speeds ensure the best video and photo integrity by reducing stutter as well as faster PC upload time especially when using USB 3.0 card readers."

I have 1 32gb and 3 64gb cards of these:

SanDisk 32 GB SDHC Memory Card Extreme Pro Class SDSDXP-032G-A46

Mark Williams
February 5th, 2014, 06:11 PM
The micro P2 cards have an extra row of contacts. I would suppose this has something to do with recording at the higher bitrate.

Ron Fabienke
February 5th, 2014, 07:53 PM
Yes, just checked and mine don't. But the "specs" for read and write are just as high or higher than that one above. Where or how does the extra row of contacts give its advantage?

Mark Williams
February 5th, 2014, 08:05 PM
Well, just guessing at this point but I would think that your card would work up to 1080p. The write speed at 4k with the micro P2 card might have some type of data verification or redundancy process at work using the other row.

Ron Fabienke
February 5th, 2014, 08:43 PM
Got it thanks. Guess we'll be hearing more.

Look at the specs on this 256GB compact flash card. Wow!!

SanDisk 256GB Extreme Pro CompactFlash Memory SDCFXPS-256G-A46


SanDisk 256GB Extreme Pro CompactFlash Memory Card
256GB Storage Capacity
Optimized for 4K Video Recording
Up to 160MB/s Read Speed
Up to 150MB/s Write Speed
Compatible with RAW & JPEG Formats
Includes RTV Silicone Coating

Jim Snow
February 6th, 2014, 09:38 PM
Here is the text of Panasonic's GH4 press release.

http://www.dvinfo.net/news/panasonic-announces-4k-mirrorless-dmc-gh4.html

Chris Hurd
February 6th, 2014, 11:34 PM
I'm working on photos to add to that press release -- meanwhile let's please move the discussion to this thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/digital-video-industry-news/521533-press-release-panasonic-announces-4k-mirrorless-dmc-gh4.html

Thanks everybody,