Just saw another video from Bob Nicolas, his videos have such a smooth flow in camera movements and their eyecandy shots are from a level I have not seen before, just check out that ring shot at 01:00 or that weddingdress shot at 02:00 or just the openingsshot, I know they are a multicam operator team but they sure all know how to operate their dslr's, their videos are really fun to watch.

Ed and Chimene on Vimeo (https://vimeo.com/88149895)

Anyone know who the song is by?

Pete

Good thread guys.
That song is Colbie Caillat - I Do

Does anyone know any of the tracks from the other Bob nicholas video on this thread (Echo and Kim)?

Bob Nicholas work is fantastic. I think the work done by Roland Mihalsky, while obviously being very stylish and the guy is seriously talented. i think its risky stuff. It just seems to me if I took this arty type approach to the point that he has taken it (taking shots out of context and creating a new storyline basically) that I wouldnt be able to please all of the people all of the time. Thats the key to a successful video business. 100% percent client satisfaction to allow us to keep moving on and through the jobs to make as much money as possible.
Its so subjective and becomes the type of stuff that some people like and some people don't.

Thought I recognised the voice - thanks

"I do" from "Colbie Caillat" and "Hurricane" from "The Fray"

I wouldn't bother trying to use those for your video as they don't appear songs that you can license for that purpose.

Actually Noa you can get that Colbie Caillet song on Songfreedom - The Fray I doubt very much you would get a licence for.

https://www.songfreedom.com/share/song/4611/I%20Do

Pete

I've thought myself from time to time about producing just a highlights clip of a wedding.
Hovering around (as a single camera operator) getting lots of varied shots thoughout the day and within reason building the story as i go. The intention would be to produce a nice highlights clip (5- 10 mins) with editing only taking up a few hours of my time. Charge nearly what Im charging now. Wouldnt that be nice.
What wold be lost would be all that is real. Actual speeches etc but Im not sure the client would care.

I wouldn't buy a song from songfreedom if they would pay me, they have popular and known songs in their catalogue which are supposed to be licensed for worldwide use but they aren't, they lied to me once but not a second time.

My biggest hurdles I'm finding with taking my videos to the level of these guys/gals...

1: Skilled Second Shooters - I haven't really found too many people who could say, go out and get these incredible shots without me having to storyboard them out or something.
2: Faking it - I find it hard to believe all these amazing videos don't do a lot of "hey hold on, lets redo that one more time, give me more smile okay"
3: Charging for it - Having all the extra gear and skilled hands to use it is going to get expensive.

Whilst these videos are great to look at I'd imagine they represent only 1% of wedding videos. They are super over produced and that's not possible or desired in most cases. If 3000$ is more or less a yearly wage in the Philippines then imagine what you could do with the equivalent in you country! For around 12000 euros I'd send out 3 cameramen and a sound guy and I'd just direct! Sounds great!
Back to the real world!
I'd be really interested to see what people are achieving for more modest budgets. Single shooter weddings, how to get enough quality footage to make a 40 min doc and a 5 min trailer, etc. Something like a list of top end video producers, mid end video producers and budget producers.
And maybe a list of 30min plus video edits.

I think that's a great idea Andrew, you might start a seperate thread for that in the "SPC - Single Person Crew" category? Although I don't consider myself a top end videographer at all I wouldn't mind sharing a film with additional explanation what I focus on at the wedding and what I use to achieve that.

I think that's a great idea Andrew, you might start a seperate thread for that in the "SPC - Single Person Crew" category? Although I don't consider myself a top end videographer at all I wouldn't mind sharing a film with additional explanation what I focus on at the wedding and what I use to achieve that.

And I would love to read that and others like it!

I've thought myself from time to time about producing just a highlights clip of a wedding.
Hovering around (as a single camera operator) getting lots of varied shots thoughout the day and within reason building the story as i go. The intention would be to produce a nice highlights clip (5- 10 mins) with editing only taking up a few hours of my time. Charge nearly what Im charging now. Wouldnt that be nice.
What wold be lost would be all that is real. Actual speeches etc but Im not sure the client would care.

I have went mainly to doing exactly this instead of shooting every minute of everything
and giving them a 1 hour ceremony edited between a static wide and my roaming camera,
I now do 'wedding day highlight films'. Way more fun, get to be more creative, less stress
about Aunt May or that one crazy bridesmaid stepping into your shot. You are trying to
catch short moments that can be made into a highlights video. I still try and get audio from
bride and groom as you can underlay some video with their vows or similar sometimes.
Also can do interviews with B&G beforehand and other family members if you want.
I charge just as much as before. And as a single man company, it's easier to film 'highlights'
than to try to capture everything from multiple angles and so on. For me, I was finding that
my clients loved the highlights video, shared it all over Facebook, which got me booking
requests from their friends,and one even had a 'showing'of her video on a fancy home projection
system and invited me, made popcorn and told everyone there how awesome I was. But nothing ever
was given for feedback about the 'documentary edit' except to say that grandma may like
to watch it 'someday'. So I thought just going totally highlights film would work in my market.
But every market is different and judging by what I hear in this forum, it wouldn't fly in
some parts of the world. You have to know your own market well enough to have an
educated guess on that one. Listen to what your clients 'tell' you through feedback
and so on. Pay attention to what they like.

Maybe now is the time to do it!

My biggest hurdles I'm finding with taking my videos to the level of these guys/gals...

1: Skilled Second Shooters - I haven't really found too many people who could say, go out and get these incredible shots without me having to storyboard them out or something.
2: Faking it - I find it hard to believe all these amazing videos don't do a lot of "hey hold on, lets redo that one more time, give me more smile okay"
3: Charging for it - Having all the extra gear and skilled hands to use it is going to get expensive.

1. I agree. Very hard to find.