I have been a Premiere guy since V1, thats before it was even called Premiere Pro. I am also a guy that is hostile about subscription payment services (not trying to start that debate). The point is I am trying Vegas 14 Edit to see if I will like it. If I do I will upgrade to Vegas 15 Pro.

So here is my first stupid newb question. I look in help, tutorials, and search first but I can't find this answer. How do I add new timelines to my project? I must be missing it? I am trying not to think like an Adobe guy but please tell me I have that option. Working with many timelines in the same project is one of my staples. What am I missing?

Kind Regards,

Steve

Hi Steven,
Vegas has the option for nested projects in recent versions. This is likely what you're looking for.
Ken

How do I add new timelines to my project?Hi Steve! Welcome aboard ... nearly..... OK what do you mean adding a “Timeline”? Ken suggests adding another Project into your open Project. Is that what you’re asking? Or are you just wishing to add another TRACK with its own TIMELINE?

Here’s some simple definition. So:

A TIMELINE is literally the WHOLE VEGAS Project and colloquially, affectionately called a Veg or Veggie and people like me are referred to as VegHeads.

Media that is Dragged to the TIMELINE are then called EVENTS

One single TRACK holds all the EVENTS.

The area that’s to the FAR left of that TRACK is the TRACK Header.

Hope that helps.

Nested projects in Vegas *are* much like nested sequences in Premiere.

I’ve not used 14, or even 13... but back when I was a power user of Vegas, one thing I found really handy was that you could open multiple instances of the program, a different project in each one, and copy and paste between them.

I’ve had to switch to Premiere to get deep with what my college is teaching - fortunately they handle the licenses. Vegas was great...

Not sure if you meant a new Track but if so Ctrl + Shift + Q will give you a new video track and Ctrl + Q a new audio track.

Richard

As was indicated, the question is a little vague. In Premiere terms, you cannot have multiple "sequences" in one project. One project will simply be a single timeline. If you need multiple timelines to create your project, you will need to create multiple projects.

Then you need to figure out how to combine them. One way would be to render out each segment to a new media file and then add the new renders to a new project - which I have done many times. Another way is to add the Project file to a new project. That is called a "Nested VEG file". With a nested VEG file, you can simply add the project and can still do further editing at any time.

However, you do not have "multiple sequences" in one project in Vegas.

Gentlemen,

Thank you for the reply's. My terminology was not accurate enough. Premiere and Vegas both have timelines that are similar. Yes, the "multiple timelines" I am looking for in Vegas are called "sequences" in Premiere. Every time you want a new timeline to work with you make a new sequence. They have total compatibility with each other. You can create as many versions of the video as you want all in the same "project". I find it very efficient.

Creating a new .veg for each one will just be a change in work flow. I don't expect Vegas to be the same as Premiere. I have a lot to learn about the UI and the work flow. After all the years I have invested in Adobe I am not crazy about this, but hey, I am telling myself old dogs CAN learn new tricks. Thank you for letting me know one of my most frequently used features of Premiere is not available in Vegas. It is not a deal breaker, but it does seem crazy to have to create a new .veg/project for each version of the video. I am looking forward to also discovering benefits Vegas has that were not available to me in Premiere. This is my first edit in Vegas, I am brand new to it.

Kind Regards,

Steve

Like with any software once you learn the software you can get really creative with your edits.

Good thing about Sony Vegas is I have noticed on Youtube a lot of the young gamers absolutely love it so they are always sharing tips and tutorials on really cool transitions and editing techniques which you can apply to events and weddings (rather than gaming videos like they do).

I have learnt a lot from these kids.

Been a die hard user of Sony Vegas 11 & 12 and now editing 4K on Sony Vegas 13.

Used to use Cyberlink Powerdirector before that.

Never been a Premiere user. But I use Photoshop and After Effects religiously as well.

Gentlemen,

Thank you for the reply's. My terminology was not accurate enough. Premiere and Vegas both have timelines that are similar. Yes, the "multiple timelines" I am looking for in Vegas are called "sequences" in Premiere. Every time you want a new timeline to work with you make a new sequence. They have total compatibility with each other. You can create as many versions of the video as you want all in the same "project". I find it very efficient.

Creating a new .veg for each one will just be a change in work flow. I don't expect Vegas to be the same as Premiere. I have a lot to learn about the UI and the work flow. After all the years I have invested in Adobe I am not crazy about this, but hey, I am telling myself old dogs CAN learn new tricks. Thank you for letting me know one of my most frequently used features of Premiere is not available in Vegas. It is not a deal breaker, but it does seem crazy to have to create a new .veg/project for each version of the video. I am looking forward to also discovering benefits Vegas has that were not available to me in Premiere. This is my first edit in Vegas, I am brand new to it.

Kind Regards,

Steve

Trust me what ever Premiere can do, so can Sony Vegas.

Can you show me a screenshot of what you mean in Premiere so that I can understand better. I am a visual learner I don't know the technical jargon.

I know what steve is asking. I use fcp and it was a shock to discover that vegas doesn’t have multiple timelines/sequences or whatever you want to call them. For a wedding you would have separate timelines for the reception and ceremony. I often duplicate the timeline to create different edit lengths or versions allowing you to step back to a previous edit. While you can get around not having it, it is a very useful feature.

James,

It is super easy to visualise because the main project screens in Vegas/Premiere look so similar. In a screen shot all you would see is tabs above the timeline. Each time you add a new "sequence" (additional timeline) it makes a blank one and adds a tab so one click navigates between them. It is a valuable and efficient part of the premiere workflow. It serves many purposes. In Premiere your timeline is not the project as someone suggested it is for Vegas. Your project is everything you are working on ie: imported media, raw video, cuts, your edits etc. All the same stuff you have in a .veg project.

Your a wedding shooter, so, like Pete said you could work on a 5 minute highlight reel, a 20 minute short reel, and your 60 minute doco all at once. Everything you need for them all is right in front of you in the project. They are totally interactive. You can copy and paste between them. So if you cut a killer 30 second opening you just paste it to the other two versions one click away. No need to open other projects or to have multiple instances of the same program open. And each sequence is also its own movie. You can reder them out any way you want.

And...this is different than nesting. But I still need to learn more about Vegas nesting. Maybe that will help some.

It is going to take some getting used to not having this option as it has been a standard part of my workflow for so many years.

Kind Regards,

Steve

I still can do that though.

I just keep a space between the projects, and work on the next version of the film.

When I render, depending on which part I want to render I just double click and drag the yellow cursor highlight the part I want to render out.

It can be done but it may not be so obvious without physically showing you.

Edius is more like Premiere in having sequences that are on tabs that you can move between and have common bins of resources. I move between EDIUS my main editor, Vegas 15 and Resolve for different reasons. Edius has the best multicam in my mind and is fast, Vegas best audio editing and Resolve for colour.

I have been a Premiere guy since V1, thats before it was even called Premiere Pro. I am also a guy that is hostile about subscription payment services (not trying to start that debate). The point is I am trying Vegas 14 Edit to see if I will like it. If I do I will upgrade to Vegas 15 Pro.


Steve

Sad, I'm a Vegas guy moving to Premiere Pro, this of course after Adobe forced me by brute strength to pay a pint of blood a month for their software rental.

Steven Davis, Why are you bailing on Vegas?

Steve

software for the most part is inflexible. With each version they might add features but the frame work is set in stone. So either you adapt to it or move to something that better fits your type of work. Waiting for a fix is often an exercise in futility. This is not exclusive to any one editor.

Hey Steve,

Part of our goal this year was to up our game so to speak with the purchase of a Canon C200 for it's lowlight capability, 4k ability, and changing up our style closer to a DSLR edit, especially in our weddings.

So when I looked at my current PC NLE with Vegas, I was looking at a minimum of a new graphics card in the range of 900 to 1200. When I tested just the 4k capability with my PC NLE and it really struggled in Vegas to even playback. Oddly enough, I tested Premiere on my PC NLE and it played back much better. But I knew the PC still needed a much larger upgrade than I felt I wanted to do.

I then looked at the benefits of having one machine for our photo editing and video editing. With two months of research, we adopted an iMac Pro into the mix to handle the Canon C200 footage. Even though that meant giving up a kidney to Adobe for their monthly software suite, the streamless video/photo editing in 4k was a much-needed boost to the quality of what we do.

There were a lot more variables including a few unpleasant conversations with Adobe, but that's where we've landed and so far so good with the Canon C200 (which is amazing), iMac Pro, Adobe suite combination.

I know I'm a guy who's been known to be very critical of Vegas, especially with my history with Sony, but at this time, we were looking to upgrade our game, and upgrading my PC just wasn't in the mix this time.

There are definitely many advantage to Vegas over Premiere. There's also some advantages the other way around.

No, Vegas does not have multiple "sequences" in one project. However, after being forced to use FCP for work, I can see some advantages to that but can do the same thing with multiple VEG files changing the name as needed. I also use the Auto Backup part of Excalibur which can save multiple versions of the same project for emergency purposes and will allow adding a "note" if there's a major change at any point.

For weddings, yes I have a separate project for intro, ceremony, middle, and reception which I then combine into a "final" project. Never had an issue not having multiple "sequences".

But the biggest advantage to Vegas is scripting! I still like the Excalibur multi-cam best and still use it over the built-in multi-cam. Scripts can really save a lot of time.

For example, at church I wrote a very specific script for editing our church service. I tried to make it so that anyone could pretty well walk in and do an edit even if they don't know how to use Vegas. That's how powerful scripting can be! I have not see any other NLE with that ability.